His Divine Shadow posted:The free movement of capital is something that needs to end, forever. Why does it need to end inside the EU? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Free movement of capital should be accompanied by free movement of tax contributions. By all means, let Luxembourg and friends serve as tax shelters, but now they are the ones who've got to pay for the EU budget.
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Apr 4, 2017 12:04
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Cat Mattress posted:Free movement of capital should be accompanied by free movement of tax contributions. By all means, let Luxembourg and friends serve as tax shelters, but now they are the ones who've got to pay for the EU budget. this guy gets it Free movement of capital is a great thing, tax evasion not so much.
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Apr 4, 2017 12:04
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Cat Mattress posted:Free movement of capital should be accompanied by free movement of tax contributions. By all means, let Luxembourg and friends serve as tax shelters, but now they are the ones who've got to pay for the EU budget. Yes, yes! This loving ad eternum - I like that Europe's problem seems to be paying for the poor countries while what we've been doing all along is paying for the rich countries
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Apr 4, 2017 12:12
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Cat Mattress posted:Free movement of capital should be accompanied by free movement of tax contributions. By all means, let Luxembourg and friends serve as tax shelters, but now they are the ones who've got to pay for the EU budget. The free movement of capital should actually be accompanied by the free movement of heads away from bodies.
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Apr 4, 2017 12:16
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There won't be a need for free movement of capital in the socialist economy of the future, comrades.
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Apr 4, 2017 12:23
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YF-23 posted:There won't be a need for free movement of capital in the socialist economy of the future, comrades. A good point.
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Apr 4, 2017 12:44
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It's worth pointing out that polls showing Mélenchon within striking distance of the second round are very much outliers at the moment: https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/849225548156895233  https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/848938420416241664
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Apr 4, 2017 12:49
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Cat Mattress posted:Free movement of capital should be accompanied by free movement of tax contributions. By all means, let Luxembourg and friends serve as tax shelters, but now they are the ones who've got to pay for the EU budget.
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Apr 4, 2017 13:43
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jBrereton posted:Just Invade And Dismantle The State Apparatus of the Bourgeois Tax Haven Luxembourg 😂 How Hard Is This 😂 Don't forget the Netherlands.
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Apr 4, 2017 13:46
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MiddleOne posted:Don't forget the Netherlands.
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Apr 4, 2017 13:48
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A nuke would be a simple and final solution to the Luxembourg problem.
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Apr 4, 2017 13:55
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Be a bit rude to the people living there tbh
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Apr 4, 2017 13:56
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have you ever met a luxemburger? exactly
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Apr 4, 2017 13:56
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jBrereton posted:Be a bit rude to the people living there tbh We're never gonna get anywhere if we're afraid of being rude.
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Apr 4, 2017 13:58
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https://twitter.com/Wahlrecht_de/status/849198488114147329 Good to see things reverting to their God given order.
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Apr 4, 2017 14:00
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Kurtofan posted:have you ever met a luxemburger? exactly Stiffed me and some other on a seminar work project, death the faux-French!
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Apr 4, 2017 14:06
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AfD sure crashed hard. Weren't they near 15%? I'm glad of it either way.
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Apr 4, 2017 14:11
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NGL, if it does end up, somehow, being Melenchon vs Le Pen in the runoffs, I'm actually horrified at the possibility that the neoliberals might vote for the fascist out of spite.
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Apr 4, 2017 14:14
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Junior G-man posted:In order of popularity (I have some slides on this for some reason): Bit concerning to hear BBC there, given who runs them. Much as BBC is supposed to be neutral, Laura Keunssberg and the like meet informally with May, and it has a definite pro-British-establishment bent. The rest are pretty good and not dependent on Murdoch though.
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Apr 4, 2017 14:17
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orange sky posted:If Hamon dropped out and supported Melenchon would he go to the 2nd round for sure? No but it'd suddenly be a 3 horse race. LemonDrizzle posted:It's worth pointing out that polls showing Mélenchon within striking distance of the second round are very much outliers at the moment: Oh definitely, but if support for Hamon continues to collapse then that's where we're headed. Tonight's debate is likely make or break for Hamon. Although given that Melenchon's floor is about 10% it seems that a good performance for Hamon is probably the worst outcome for the left tonight because it's hard to see how Hamon can really be viable again at this stage from just a normal sized bounce. But it's also important we don't make the same mistake people made over Clinton vs Trump in terms of polling in terms of predictive value. If you look at the Opinionway or Ifop polls from this time last year you can see that the "certainty" of vote intention for Sarkozy, Holland, and Le Pen were all a solid ~75-80%. But in the latest Ifop poll we can see that Melenchon, Hamon, and Macron are only at 66%, 61%, and 64% respectively. My interpretation of this is that the "not-Le Pen" tactical vote is a big factor in this election and if Hamon's viability collapses totally we could see some pretty drastic swings. The fundamentals are that Melenchon is polling well with respect to the desirable qualities for a candidate and is perceived to have the momentum right now and so is best placed for a last minute sprint. Macron is definitely in defence mode and has the most to lose at this stage. Many thanks to Fillon rendering himself completely toxic to most of the electorate and making this left wing fantasy even possible! Lord of the Llamas fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Apr 4, 2017 |
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Apr 4, 2017 14:18
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Private Speech posted:Bit concerning to hear BBC there, given who runs them. Much as BBC is supposed to be neutral, Laura Keunssberg and the like meet informally with May, and it has a definite pro-British-establishment bent. The Economist is not even a bit good, but it does seem like the sort of thing that wonks in Brussels would read so that's not surprising.
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Apr 4, 2017 14:19
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Private Speech posted:Bit concerning to hear BBC there, given who runs them. Much as BBC is supposed to be neutral, Laura Keunssberg and the like meet informally with May, and it has a definite pro-British-establishment bent. You're assuming they're not just watching the BBC for comedy value at this stage.
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Apr 4, 2017 14:26
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Lord of the Llamas posted:You're assuming they're not just watching the BBC for comedy value at this stage. I suppose as long as you are aware of it they aren't a bad source. Good example would be the current Gibraltar malarky; it only appeared on BBC in their daily roundup of UK newspaper frontpages, (despite being headline news in Guardian, Times, etc.) which always shoots up in the most read list when a major story like that is suppressed. I guess in a way it's a useful signal from the government though.
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Apr 4, 2017 14:34
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Private Speech posted:Good example would be the current Gibraltar malarky; it only appeared on BBC in their daily roundup of UK newspaper frontpages
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Apr 4, 2017 14:36
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LemonDrizzle posted:That's not remotely true - see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39472207 and http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39472438 e: The second article is barely worth mentioning, and the first got updated a while after the story broke. The first also downplays comments from May, Fallon, etc. on the topic, making a relative no-name Lord Howard the headline news, though admiteddly he started (they are briefly quoted later on in the first article). All I know is when it was going on I turned on the BBC app, which shows the ten most read articles in a bunch of categories (world, domestic, business, education, science, etc.) and the newspaper frontpages was the only story about it there. By contrast Times and Guardian literallly had it as flashing headline news. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Apr 4, 2017 |
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Apr 4, 2017 14:38
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Yeah BBC seems like a good source of news to me. Their reporting is fast and on point. It's probably biased, but what isn't. Just read more than one newspaper, internets make it real easy.
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Apr 4, 2017 14:39
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Agnosticnixie posted:NGL, if it does end up, somehow, being Melenchon vs Le Pen in the runoffs, I'm actually horrified at the possibility that the neoliberals might vote for the fascist out of spite. It wouldn't be out of spite, it would be an ideological choice. Fascism is the final retreat of the bourgeoisie against socialism. Not that I expect JLM to actually dismantle the bourgeois order but just the thought of it would be enough to drive neoliberals to Le Pen.
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Apr 4, 2017 16:06
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YF-23 posted:It wouldn't be out of spite, it would be an ideological choice. Fascism is the final retreat of the bourgeoisie against socialism. Not that I expect JLM to actually dismantle the bourgeois order but just the thought of it would be enough to drive neoliberals to Le Pen. It's a good thing that there aren't actually many neoliberals in the general population then.
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Apr 4, 2017 16:09
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GaussianCopula posted:https://twitter.com/Wahlrecht_de/status/849198488114147329 Careful friend, you don't want to start celebrating before being sure there isn't a SPD/Linke  Contraption in your near future.
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Apr 4, 2017 16:11
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Ok wtf this is news in 2017 https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3252653/spanish-patrol-boat-royal-navy-gibraltar/ what the gently caress is going on what the gently caress Ahahaha the text on this jesus Murdoch kill yourself already and bring all your newspapers with you 
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Apr 4, 2017 16:16
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orange sky posted:Ok wtf I believe this happens quite often. Might be a good idea for the Spanish government to stop doing it for now.
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Apr 4, 2017 16:19
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Pissflaps posted:I believe this happens quite often. Might be a good idea for the Spanish government to stop doing it for now. I don't even know what to say, I guess I never expected something quite this retarded to happen in my lifetime We're all retarded now it seems
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Apr 4, 2017 16:21
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This year is going to beat out 2016 from its reigning mastership title of being the absolute worst isn't it?
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Apr 4, 2017 16:23
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Tonight's French debate will be such a shitshow
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Apr 4, 2017 16:25
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Messrs. Vice Presidents, Members of the European Parliament: Today, April 4th, 2017—a date which will live in infamy—the United States of Europe was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval forces of the Empire of England-and-Some-Other-Bits..
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Apr 4, 2017 16:27
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LemonDrizzle posted:e2: vvv surprised that politico is considered so influential, and that English sources are seemingly so dominant. Politico is the publication of choice for people who consider themselves 'in the know' in Washington. The house rag of the US political class. As that class has deep connections and relevance to the EU politicals, it makes sense that it's popular with them.
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Apr 4, 2017 16:31
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no need for a unified candidacy, hollande should endorse hamon and that would solve the problem
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Apr 4, 2017 16:34
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Pissflaps posted:I believe this happens quite often. Might be a good idea for the Spanish government to stop doing it for now. Maybe instead of doing more nationalist dickwaving both sides should sit down and come to an actual agreement re: Gibraltar's territorial waters and other related issues.
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Apr 4, 2017 16:35
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Kurtofan posted:no need for a unified candidacy, hollande should endorse hamon and that would solve the problem
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