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drrockso20 posted:Most people stick Mikemon and Bastemon together from what I've seen Makes sense! I still want my dumb joke to be real
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 06:41 |
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# ? Jun 11, 2024 02:17 |
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thetoughestbean posted:Uhh You forgot Black Tailmon Uver. And speaking of Ghost Game, this was apparently announced on Tuesday, but I only found out about it from the Digimon TCG Twitter, and, um... Next month's Jump Promo was previewed on the main website and... https://digimoncard.com/news/vjump_2301.php That's Siriusmon.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 12:31 |
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No comments on Fumamon?
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 13:50 |
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Nodosaur posted:No comments on Fumamon? ‘S’okay. I want to see it animated first before I make an opinion. quote:Lampmon quote:Siriusmon quote:Ritz Kodo
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 14:58 |
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Mikemon has got to be the most aggressively costed 2-color Lv. 4 so far right? 4 to play, 2 to evolve, and a reasonable inherited effect on top! Glad to see they are continuing the trend of giving the gammamon line tons of mediocre promos. At least you don't need this one if you want to try playing the deck.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 16:09 |
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The Pulsemon tamer is ok but I can't really see them being worth the slot. Siriusmon on the other hand is total garbage.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 16:16 |
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Honestly I'm more excited to get a better look at its design, including confirmation on the GN Sword III-style arms. Not the most flattering angle though, and the guns and angle are eating up most of the space at the expense of torso, waist, and upper arm details.
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# ? Nov 4, 2022 17:19 |
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quote:Mermaimon Mermaimon makes sense when you remember that the ancient spirit for water is AncientMermaimon, who will presumably also show up. I like how the game game has hyper specific Greymon decks and also a deck whose theme is “you know, fish”
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 05:04 |
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I like that we get generally themed decks like It's Kinda Just How Fish Work and I Guess These Are Plants mixed in with the hyper-focused series stuff. Especially because I feel like we get surprisingly little series focused stuff, if I'm being honest? Like, you'd think one of the two Adventures would've been mined by crazy by now. But while the Digimon and Tamers from Adventure show up often, it isn't like we really have strong archetypes built out of most of them. We got the four Legendary Dragons before the four Dark Masters, DNA RagnaLordmon before DNA Omnimon. It isn't just a big show tie-in, and I find it really neat.
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 06:35 |
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I can't believe Draconic Roar is Friday.
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 13:44 |
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The Bee posted:I like that we get generally themed decks like It's Kinda Just How Fish Work and I Guess These Are Plants mixed in with the hyper-focused series stuff. Especially because I feel like we get surprisingly little series focused stuff, if I'm being honest? Like, you'd think one of the two Adventures would've been mined by crazy by now. But while the Digimon and Tamers from Adventure show up often, it isn't like we really have strong archetypes built out of most of them. We got the four Legendary Dragons before the four Dark Masters, DNA RagnaLordmon before DNA Omnimon. It isn't just a big show tie-in, and I find it really neat. All four Dark Masters have gotten cards, which just haven't gotten anything tying them together. Also: [When Digivolving] You may play 1 blue Digimon with [Hybrid] or [Aquatic], [Sea Animal] or [Aqua Beast] in its traits from your blue Digimon's sources without paying its memory cost. [On Deletion] You play play 1 level 4 blue Hybrid without paying its memory cost.
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 17:03 |
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Don’t forget the option!quote:Great Maelstrom BT12-102 C <02> Yeet any enemy Digimon and restock one of your “play from sources for value” cards? Yes please
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 18:43 |
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Some Numbers posted:All four Dark Masters have gotten cards, which just haven't gotten anything tying them together. That's what I mean, though. There's a big difference between Puppetmon being tossed onto a card and the kind of ties that go into making cards of a specific archetype really sing together. Machinedramon feels the most like a capital A Archetype, and that feels way more like Digimon World Machinedramon than Dark Master Machinedramon, y'know? I just find it really fascinating and cool. We're getting archetypes from all over the series, fan favorites to deep cuts, and not just the same season having entire sets built around it time and time again.
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 18:51 |
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Amusingly the Dark Masters do have something tying them together, that being "Level 6 Digimon with an On Play effect". It's how you can tell the old Mugendramon was definitely supposed to be the one from Adventure. At the same time, there's no real Deck for them, in their relative heyday people basically played them as expensive option cards. I do wonder if maybe we'll actually get deliberate support for them in EX4, if you're doing a Jogress/Fusion/Combine Powers set it would be cool to see Apocalymon as a card.
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 19:05 |
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Old MetalSeadramon can be played in Fish… if you want to do some completely ridiculous jank
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 19:10 |
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Omnicrom posted:Amusingly the Dark Masters do have something tying them together, that being "Level 6 Digimon with an On Play effect". It's how you can tell the old Mugendramon was definitely supposed to be the one from Adventure. At the same time, there's no real Deck for them, in their relative heyday people basically played them as expensive option cards. I feel like if you're going to do an Apocalymon, it could work sorta similar to DarknessBagramon. Have it throw a bunch of cards with Level 6 Purple (like DoneDevimon and MaloMyotismon, for example) or Dark Masters in their traits under it as Digivolution cards as an on play effect. Give it a big chunky DeDigivolve effect to prevent it from being a tempo loss and reflecting how it was the first Digimon to use that sort of technique. Maybe give it a means of throwing out cards from under its evolution sources to reflect it being the source of evil in the Digital World. There's a lot of possibility for different effects here!
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 20:13 |
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Apocalymon should come with a special attack card, Hot And Cold Running Water.
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# ? Nov 5, 2022 20:43 |
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Well that was the most mentally well-adjusted Meicrackmon I've ever seen in the series.
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 04:05 |
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Ghost Game 50: You know there are a lot of Digimon out there, and if I was asked to choose what Digimon would evolve from a Puttimon I don't think I would've chosen that one… Though I do suppose congratulations are in order for this episode, I legitimately never thought I would care about a Maicrackmon, but I actually felt bad for them by the end of the episode. It's morbidly impressive that Ghost Game more or less ran the entire character arc of Digimon Adventure Tri in 22 minutes only good. I actually want Maicrackmon to come back somewhere down the line to save the day now.
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 04:29 |
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quote:Psychemon BT12-075 U <02> quote:Ryouma Mogami BT12-097 U <02> quote:Astamon BT12-081 U <02> I mostly posted these for Astamon, who has some pretty dang cool art
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 04:47 |
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So unless Quartzmon isn't in the set he's either Green or the second SEC. Interesting.
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 06:11 |
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I'd guess he's the second SEC and is white... otherwise black I guess?
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 06:28 |
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Is this the first time in Ghost Game where they tried for the diplomacy option but the Digimon took the wrong message from it? I also found it weird how they addressed that humans and Digimons are different and that's why Fukatsu can't do the same things for Meicrackmon, but not the actual issue of "true friendship isn't about reciprocation and keeping score of how much the other person owes you."
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 15:07 |
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amigolupus posted:Is this the first time in Ghost Game where they tried for the diplomacy option but the Digimon took the wrong message from it. I'm not sure the Digimon did take the wrong message from the cast intervening. To me it seemed like Maicrackmon wasn't being at all honest at the end there, the tears and the fact they said explicitly " you should make human friends" made it seem like that last bit was them acknowledging they couldn't easily stay together anymore and that they had been causing problems. It felt like Maicrackmon was, in a sacrificial way, paying back Riku. Also Quartzmon is a green SR so the second SEC's identity is still up in the air.
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 15:21 |
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that they showed a teenage boy sleeping with a Digimon with boobs like it's nothing, reminded me of this: Also, man, I understand Hiro is the less active and most reactive of the main characters in a Digimon series because of the series' structure, but it really feels like he straight up doesn't give a gently caress about anything until poo poo hits the fan. Riku: Ah, Amanokawa, you seem to be the most knowledgeable about this, my hologram creature changed and says it's a digievolution, what's up with that? Hiro: I dunno lol
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 16:00 |
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Omnicrom posted:I'm not sure the Digimon did take the wrong message from the cast intervening. To me it seemed like Maicrackmon wasn't being at all honest at the end there, the tears and the fact they said explicitly " you should make human friends" made it seem like that last bit was them acknowledging they couldn't easily stay together anymore and that they had been causing problems. It felt like Maicrackmon was, in a sacrificial way, paying back Riku. I've considered that too, but maybe I got thrown off by how they never outright talked about how the core issue is that it's unhealthy to expect/demand reciprocation just because you did something nice to someone. There was an episode with a somewhat similar setup where a florist guy was being stalked by a plant Digimon that loved him and it did actually point out that the Digimon's motivation was bad. Petiso posted:Also, man, I understand Hiro is the less active and most reactive of the main characters in a Digimon series because of the series' structure, but it really feels like he straight up doesn't give a gently caress about anything until poo poo hits the fan. Too lazy to dig into it, but I gotta wonder if it's due to the series being handled by different writers? Some of the episodes where the protagonists just act all oblivious until poo poo hits the fan, or some where the emotional resolution of the episode was very abrupt and unsatisfying, makes me suspect they've been written by that one writer who also worked on Adventure 2020.
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 16:57 |
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Omnicrom posted:Also Quartzmon is a green SR so the second SEC's identity is still up in the air. So I can be completely wrong, of course ::p At least it can evolve from white or black as well as green.
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 17:25 |
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quote:Quartzmon BT12-057 SR <02> quote:Gypt Particle Cannon BT12-106 R <02>
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 19:46 |
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Today I tested some red purple imperial on Tabletop Sim poo poo is fun as hell if you can get the right cards in your trash
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 19:51 |
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This thing is hard as hell to get on the board, but it's insanely powerful.
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 20:14 |
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Some Numbers posted:This thing is hard as hell to get on the board, but it's insanely powerful. That's the thing, I'm not sure how hard it is to get on board given it can evolve from level 5s, and Ryoma/Psychemon/Astamon lets you recur it from trash and it has Save in its text so you can do stuff related to Hunters. Yes, the evolve price is really high, but um, once Quartzmon drops your opponent functionally doesn't really have anything on the field anymore. I was worried that the Hunter deck might not have a high ceiling but this guy is utterly explosive. I will happily play around with Save shenanigans and Hunter Tamers if my end board is a terrifying stun monster. Omnicrom fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Nov 6, 2022 |
# ? Nov 6, 2022 20:38 |
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Eh there's a lot of stuff that can ignore or get around its effect. Redirects like Examon Cherrymon and BWGX, or just moving out something from breeding and digivolving it into something that kills Quartzmon. It's still a very good card but if you give up 9 memory to use it you will often get dunked.
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 20:46 |
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RevolverDivider posted:Eh there's a lot of stuff that can ignore or get around its effect. Redirects like Examon Cherrymon and BWGX, or just moving out something from breeding and digivolving it into something that kills Quartzmon. It's still a very good card but if you give up 9 memory to use it you will often get dunked. I mean, you probably aren't evolving for 9 memory, if you're evolving off of Astamon it's base cost 6 minus Hunter Xros Up discounts minus the couple of extra points of memory you gain from suspending stuff. If I'm playing him in his intended deck I will gladly pay 4 or 5 to force my opponent to deal with a board lock. And deal with it they can. Redirects can work as you stated, but it'll be a neat trick to get one off of Examon/Slayerdramon since you'll need at least two Examon and a Slayersdramon to successfully block since Quartzmon completely disables Examon's ability to unsuspend in totality and suspends cards when it attacks. Cherrymon to protect a Hydramon works, but unless you have that exact combination you're still getting attacked at 15K base and probably taking security damage per swing which is still a threat. BWGX is also quite good, but also is 13000 to 15000 base (and Black War Greymon can't Reboot). It's also hypercritically weak to eating a kill spell, either hard played or out of Security, and as you said it can be dealt with by a Digimon coming out of raising with either a kill effect or some other way to deal with it. Quartzmon gets absolutely ruined by a red stack with Raid like the new War Greymon and Dukemon probably matches up alarming well against it with the new emphasis on jumping straight to level 6. It can be bounced or spun or hit with an Astral Snatcher and it dies to a full Shoutmon X7 and there are even some decks that can totally play around it and not even care its there. It's certainly not impossible to answer, but it's also a definite bomb of a card. And that was my point, prior to this all the Hunter mechanics had fairly middling payoffs. Before got mid-sized Digimon with a couple of keywords, which is not nothing but also something Black has been doing since it was introduced to the game. Arresterdramon SM was nice, but it was still just a big punch brick with an (admittedly very good) removal effect attached and he was the biggest thing you could make for Hunters with the cards shown off so far. Meanwhile for Quartzmon the fact is that you either answer him fast or you die. That kind of game-winning power and pressure hypothetical Hunter decks didn't really have before this. Also it evolves from White so people clinging to Diablomon and Eosmon now have a new toy to try out. Also some psychopath is going to try and evolve this over X7 in the world's most deranged version of Ice Wall.
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# ? Nov 6, 2022 21:58 |
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There were a few days of reveals that weren't shared, including Black Yuu with Damemon and Tuwarmon, but I'm just gonna share tonight's reveals, because they contain the other secret rare.quote:Shoutmon quote:OmniShoutmon BT12-014 C <02> quote:Taiki Kudo BT12-087 R <02> quote:Shoutmon X7: Superior Mode BT12-112 SEC <02> quote:Final Xros Blade BT12-100 R <02> X7: Superior Mode seems pretty solid. On play botdeck that also botdecks sources, passive ADP. It's going to be virtually impossible to play for free because of the DigiXros conditions, but you can theoretically do it. There are more than enough distinct Xros Heart and Blue Flare traited Digimon cards to pull it off, but you're gonna have to build your deck kinda strangely to do it, maybe including extra mats as one-ofs just for the purpose of making this thing.
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# ? Nov 8, 2022 13:29 |
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X7S was about what I expected honestly. He's a nice bow on top of the Xros Heart deck, and given that there's a decent chance this is officially it for Xros Wars? Not a bad way to go out.
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# ? Nov 8, 2022 15:54 |
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I am so very tired of Xros Wars and Save/Digi Xros is the absolute loving worst so hopefully we’re done with Xros for a long long time
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# ? Nov 8, 2022 16:05 |
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Partial white feels so weird to see.
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# ? Nov 8, 2022 16:31 |
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The Bee posted:Partial white feels so weird to see. Shoutmon X7 is Red/White, which actually makes this weirder, because the colors are flipped.
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# ? Nov 8, 2022 16:32 |
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RevolverDivider posted:I am so very tired of Xros Wars and Save/Digi Xros is the absolute loving worst so hopefully we’re done with Xros for a long long time My suspicion has always been that since Xros Wars has never been popular the reason they ran three sets in a row covering it so extensively (well, "extensively", BT11 and 12 spent at least half a set each on completely unrelated things) was primarily done so they can say they are finished with it and will never ever ever return to it. This is the bone being thrown at the fans of it, it's them going enjoy it! Because that's all. You are never getting anything from us ever again. And personally I'll be quite happy if we never see a Shoutmon ever again. King of Solomon posted:Shoutmon X7 is Red/White, which actually makes this weirder, because the colors are flipped. This I chalk up to White originally being the "multicolor" color, hence why it was the color used for Omegamon all the way back in BT1. My original pitch for X7S was for it to just be every color, but if they aren't going to do it/couldn't do it/weren't going to bother for a Xros Wars Digimon it being White/Red with the emphasis on the White part is an okay compromise to get across that it's made up of gobs of Digimon of different colors. Meanwhile, in an edit about a show I like, RB-01, the reprint set has apparently confirmed to contain 36 new cards, with an emphasis on Ghost Game Digimon and Tamers. Confirmed in it is Siriusmon as well as the Ultimates for Jellymon and Angoramon. https://twitter.com/digicaplayer/status/1589520909593083904 Omnicrom fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Nov 8, 2022 |
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# ? Jun 11, 2024 02:17 |
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Watched the latest episode. Kind of a heartbreaker! I hope Mei and Riku are able to make up, but I kind of doubt they will. Man, Ghost Game has so many good ideas and characters that I wish it would return to more often. Anyways, I’ve been thinking of changing my avatar here. Should it be using the card for Mushroomon or RedVegiemon? Text: Keep on Shroomin’ I’d need ideas for this one. I’m thinking “A Veggie That Bites Back”
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# ? Nov 10, 2022 03:14 |