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HatfulOfHollow posted:The store was Roger Wilco in Deptford. They seriously need a beer manager. Organization was cray cray. Stop in sometime for a laugh. They have decent beer but wow, does it take some work to find things. I'm talking pulling bottles off of shelves to see what is behind them. Or moving cases to see what's sitting on the lower shelves. It's like a beer flea market. I guarantee you there are old as random bottles of Cantillon or old limited releases hiding in there. I just didn't have the energy to work through it all. Oh that place is an unorganized poo poo hole. The only good thing about it is that they order a poo poo ton of Firestone Walker and no one who shops there buys it. That was the store I regularly found 2011 Abacus, Parabola and XIV at when it was mid to late 2012. This years stock went quicker though. I do agree though it's like a flea market. Do they still have broken bottles at the end of their bomber rack? As soon as you enter into the beer section you go right to the bombers. Along the outside on the wall are Belgians and such, then the rack in the middle has American stuff and such. At the end of it, near the wall, I would always find broken bottles sitting on the shelf. That place really needs new management. I was given a Sam Smith's Organic Apricot ale and this is delicious. It is the apricot version of Duchess de Bourgogne. The tart is very slight and there's even a hint of vinegar on the finish.
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cryme posted:20 USD for a pint!?!?! He probably lives in Scandinavia. Cost of living is generally higher there, but alcohol prices are especially nuts, particularly in Norway. Norwegians make day trips to Denmark to get shitfaced, which is really saying something. Rnr posted:I'm curious about the "brewer" remark, I was under the impression that the did some brewing himself, is that not the case? From what I know, Mikkel has an entourage that follows him around and does most of the work for him, whereas he personally rarely touches the brewing equipment himself. His brother, Jeppe/Evil Twin, doesn't have the entourage but also doesn't do much brewing himself. They're both good marketers and recipe creators (Evil Twin moreso than Mikkeller, if you ask me), but I still dislike calling them "brewers" when they don't actually operate or work in the brewhouse. It's especially galling to me when the name of the brewery that actually brewed the beer is on the back of the bottle and smaller than the goddamn bottle deposit information.
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Bag of Sun Chips posted:Did anybody end up trying Founder's Doom? I thought it was pretty good - reasonably hoppy on the front with hints of bourbon. The barrel gave it a nice coconut/vanilla flavor that's really similar to White Oak Jai Alai at the end. Didn't work for me or the three others I shared it with. I thought the floral and barrel conflicted too much.
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Midorka posted:Oh that place is an unorganized poo poo hole. The only good thing about it is that they order a poo poo ton of Firestone Walker and no one who shops there buys it. That was the store I regularly found 2011 Abacus, Parabola and XIV at when it was mid to late 2012. This years stock went quicker though. I do agree though it's like a flea market. Do they still have broken bottles at the end of their bomber rack? As soon as you enter into the beer section you go right to the bombers. Along the outside on the wall are Belgians and such, then the rack in the middle has American stuff and such. At the end of it, near the wall, I would always find broken bottles sitting on the shelf. That place really needs new management. I didn't see any broken bottles so maybe they got better at "cleaning". I did see a ton of Firestone Walker though. Nothing particularly hard to find, but the prices were pretty good. Actually their prices on everything seemed pretty good. I noticed that Saison de Lente and Mischief were only $8.99, which is the cheapest I've ever seen any Bruery offerings. And the only reason I'm convinced that there are hidden treasures buried on those shelves was the sheer number of random one-offs I was finding when I started digging. deedee megadoodoo fucked around with this message at 20:27 on May 5, 2013 |
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I was in Portland ME this weekend and hit up Allagash, Shipyard, and Sebago. I hadn't tried much of Allagash outside of their White, and I was really impressed with them. I also went to Novare Res and had some really nice Tripels. Does anyone have other Portland suggestions for the next time I go?
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Jenkin posted:I was in Portland ME this weekend and hit up Allagash, Shipyard, and Sebago. I hadn't tried much of Allagash outside of their White, and I was really impressed with them. I also went to Novare Res and had some really nice Tripels. Does anyone have other Portland suggestions for the next time I go? Go back to Novare Res and drink better beers. Insane cellar list.
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May 6, 2013 00:51
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Split a 2010 Dogfish World Wide Stout and I firmly believe it's the best imperial stout in the world, un-barrel aged anyway.
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Midorka posted:Split a 2010 Dogfish World Wide Stout and I firmly believe it's the best imperial stout in the world, un-barrel aged anyway. Stone IRS and Midnight Sun Berserker beg to differ.
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Midorka posted:Split a 2010 Dogfish World Wide Stout and I firmly believe it's the best imperial stout in the world, un-barrel aged anyway. okay, sometimes i'm not sure about you, but i'm pretty certain that you're loving with us this time.
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funkybottoms posted:okay, sometimes i'm not sure about you, but i'm pretty certain that you're loving with us this time. Maybe with 3 years on it it isn't awful? That's how Olde School seems to work...
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danbanana posted:Maybe with 3 years on it it isn't awful? That's how Olde School seems to work... I doubt that. I had a two year old bottle fairly recently and found it pretty one-dimensional.
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May 6, 2013 02:10
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I'm holding out for 5 years on my 09 bottles of WWS.
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I like WWS a lot, but I'd say that even Old Rasputin is better. Plead the 5th is much better imo.
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May 6, 2013 03:22
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Older WWS is in fact pretty good, but even if we narrow it down to good with age you have Expedition Stout. Laughing at it.
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May 6, 2013 04:05
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Although hugely distributed and common, I think Yeti has a dog in this fight.
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May 6, 2013 04:41
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I honestly love aged WWS. It has huge port wine notes with cocoa and roasted malt backing. I have truly always loved this beer, no joke. I'm not trolling at all. I sincerely think that it's one of the best non-barrel aged Imperial Stouts I've ever had. I have 2 more 2010 and 2 more 2012 and I'm anxious to see how it ends up. I mean tastebuds and all and I know I'm usually the Dogfish apologetic in this thread, but this is the one beer I think they brew that is world class. Edit: Anyone in the area I'd gladly invite over to do a 2010/2012 tasting. Just make sure it's Saturday night or Sunday so I can drink a bit without worrying about getting up early. Midorka fucked around with this message at 05:06 on May 6, 2013 |
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May 6, 2013 04:47
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My sense of smell has been completely hosed for about a week now, and it's starting to really irritate me. There's an insane amount of pollen in the air, and my allergies are just messing with me. I really just want to be able to fully enjoy a beer again, especially since my LC #3 bottles are coming tomorrow.  Sorry this was a kind of off topic post. Kudosx fucked around with this message at 06:15 on May 6, 2013 |
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May 6, 2013 04:56
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crazyfish posted:Holy poo poo. That is the most insane price gouging I've ever seen. Which store is it so I can never ever shop there? It was the Foremost Liquors on Wise and Roselle. I won't be shopping there or at Sal's Beverage world again. The guy at Sal's was a huge rear end in a top hat for absolutely no reason. I tried Raspberry Truffle Abduction last night and was fairly unimpressed. My expectations were high and I was already pretty drunk so maybe that was my problem.
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May 6, 2013 07:16
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NYC goons- One Mile House on the Lower East Side is doing a barrel-aged night this Tuesday. There will be KBS, Goose Island Bourbon County Coffee Stout, Brooklyn Black Ops, and more- all tapped when it opens at 3:00 pm. I'll be going there.
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LeafHouse posted:It was the Foremost Liquors on Wise and Roselle. I won't be shopping there or at Sal's Beverage world again. The guy at Sal's was a huge rear end in a top hat for absolutely no reason. Which Sal's? Addison (Lake)? Those are the shops that I wander into about every other month and find one or two things that seemed to slip by other people. I've gotten 3F's Gueuze at one, a bunch of Peche Mortel, etc. but they're definitely not places that should be on anyone's regular list. And why is it the suburban Foremosts are run by gouging assholes? There's one in Villa Park that marks up everything remotely limited by 50%.
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Brux was only brewed once, released July 2012, right? I ask because Little Bros happened to have a single solitary bottle on the shelf Sunday that I grabbed...
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May 6, 2013 14:01
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Midorka posted:Edit: Anyone in the area I'd gladly invite over to do a 2010/2012 tasting. Just make sure it's Saturday night or Sunday so I can drink a bit without worrying about getting up early. If you organize something I'll bring a 2011 WWS. I doubt there would be much difference, but you never know. Also, I still love DFH. As weird/bad as some of their beers are, some of their experiments are really great. I love Black and Blue, Burton Baton, Aprihop, Noble Rot, My Antonia, Olde School, and Festina Peche. deedee megadoodoo fucked around with this message at 14:51 on May 6, 2013 |
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HatfulOfHollow posted:If you organize something I'll bring a 2011 WWS. I doubt there would be much difference, but you never know. Sure I have a festival to go to next week, but I'd love to host a tasting in June on a Sunday. I've got a few bottles I've been wanting to open.
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danbanana posted:Which Sal's? Addison (Lake)? Those are the shops that I wander into about every other month and find one or two things that seemed to slip by other people. I've gotten 3F's Gueuze at one, a bunch of Peche Mortel, etc. but they're definitely not places that should be on anyone's regular list. It was the Sal's on Algonquin road. The foremost across the street from there is expensive but the clerk is a nice dude and they get in some fairly hard to find stuff. First time I went there they had Sucaba, KBS, Alchemy Hour and Expedition Stout. Of course, I found out later that I could have gotten the Expedition Stout for 3 dollars less per six pack but oh well! On a positive note, if anyone is in downtown Palatine make sure to stop by Emmetts Brewing Co. Their house IPA is fantastic and the food is amazing as well as reasonably priced. Durty Nellies has a nice selection of beer but their food is pretty meh.
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HatfulOfHollow posted:If you organize something I'll bring a 2011 WWS. I doubt there would be much difference, but you never know. To me, their only "bad" beer is Tweasonale. Festina and Sahtea are some of my favorite warm-weather beers. Has anyone had their Wit Spiced Rum? It's not beer, but I thought it was great. Their take on gin is interesting as well - it's hoppy.
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Opened a bomber of Mother Earth's Peach, out of their Windowpane series, at a Cinco de Mayo party last night. Tastes like a glass of homemade peach brandy, the chardonnay barrel comes through extremely strong. I wasn't the biggest fan, but a couple of my friends liked it. Also got to try a few beers Saturday from a brewery that's just opening up in Winston, Small Batch Brew Co. They had 3 on tap - amber, IPA and coffee stout. Nothing mind-blowing, but I think they have some talent. The coffee stout especially was interesting - they called it an espresso stout, and it lived up to the name. Extremely heavy coffee, to the point where it was almost like drinking an iced coffee. I think they could stand to let some more of the malt show through to balance it, but there were also a lot of people raving about it at the tasting, so maybe they hit their target.
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Midorka posted:Sure I have a festival to go to next week, but I'd love to host a tasting in June on a Sunday. I've got a few bottles I've been wanting to open. I am game for this sometime in June. I have a 2012 BCBS I could bring.
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Podima posted:Brux was only brewed once, released July 2012, right? I ask because Little Bros happened to have a single solitary bottle on the shelf Sunday that I grabbed...
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I just saw a cellar list that showed 64 bottles of Cantillon ranging in vintage from present back to 2003. I wanted to be cordial but seriously all I could think was WTF? At this point you've crossed the line from cellaring to hoarding. These are the people who find something rare in a store and buy the whole shelf. It makes me sick. You're no longer a "beer advocate", you're just a beer snob with a lot of disposable income and a big cellar. Am I the only one who is put off by this type of thing? I mean, I buy stuff to cellar, but I don't go crazy. And my cellar is relatively small because I genuinely enjoy sharing bottles. I don't hesitate to pop an old or rare bottle to share whenever I have guests. Which is probably why I don't really have many old or rare bottles. They just don't last very long in my house. Hell, there are things that I buy that never even make it onto my cellar list because they go straight to the upstairs fridge for immediate consumption. Does this get to anyone else or is it just me? deedee megadoodoo fucked around with this message at 17:47 on May 6, 2013 |
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I understand your sentiment and while my "cellar" is modest, about 2 cases or so of various beer, I can't say that I wouldn't have substantially more if I had more money. My cellar happened by accident and I know if I had more money to spend on booze then the cellar would grow even more accidentally.
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HatfulOfHollow posted:I just saw a cellar list that showed 64 bottles of Cantillon ranging in vintage from present back to 2003... to play devil's advocate, trading could've been a source for much of that. i get your point, though, and when i was in New Orleans last year, i had the opportunity to buy an entire case of Cantillon 375mLs, but instead bought a few and then went back five days later to buy whatever was left.
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HatfulOfHollow posted:I just saw a cellar list that showed 64 bottles of Cantillon ranging in vintage from present back to 2003. I wanted to be cordial because I try to be nice but seriously all I could think was WTF? At this point you've crossed the line from cellaring to hoarding. These are the people who find something rare in a store and buy the whole shelf. It makes me sick. You're no longer a "beer advocate", you're just a beer snob with a lot of disposable income and a big cellar. It doesn't bother me, especially if he's just cellaring Cantillon - a type of beer that is well known to hold up for decades even. I don't think it's fair to assume that he just bought the whole shelf out, either. It does bother me when people hoard beer that is well-known to be over the hill yet they still refuse to drink it - King Henry (still drinking great, opened my last bottle a month ago, but Laffler stated last November that he thinks it's fallen off and you should drink it sooner rather than later), and Wooden Hell come to mind. Lets be honest, who wouldn't want this in their basement? 
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May 6, 2013 17:49
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HatfulOfHollow posted:I just saw a cellar list that showed 64 bottles of Cantillon ranging in vintage from present back to 2003. I wanted to be cordial but seriously all I could think was WTF? At this point you've crossed the line from cellaring to hoarding. These are the people who find something rare in a store and buy the whole shelf. It makes me sick. You're no longer a "beer advocate", you're just a beer snob with a lot of disposable income and a big cellar. Don't forget that some people order from Belgium. It's actually a shitload easier to just order it from Belgium than try to find any of the regular lineup on a shelf. There are at least three different websites that I can think of off the top of my head that will ship you Cantillon. You won't get older vintages and some of the rarer/more desireable stuff (Fou Foune, Lou Pepe, etc.) is harder to come by, but you can get it.
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LeafHouse posted:On a positive note, if anyone is in downtown Palatine make sure to stop by Emmetts Brewing Co. Their house IPA is fantastic and the food is amazing as well as reasonably priced. Durty Nellies has a nice selection of beer but their food is pretty meh. I have to disagree with the house IPA at Emmetts. Maybe it was just me, but I didn't get any great flavors out of it. It wasn't very hoppy, not too malty, just very meh. I actually wasn't too impressed with any of the house brews at Emmetts. I do like the beer selection at Durty Nellies though. One of the few places I can think of that's close to me and has Three Floyd's on tap.
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I have a lot of disposable income. And I buy a good amount of beer. So I'm not knocking people's ability to afford expensive tastes. I'm right there with them. However, about a quarter of the cellar was Cantillon. There was a lot of other rare stuff. I just don't understand how you get to that point without thinking "gee, I should drink some of this stuff"
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HatfulOfHollow posted:I have a lot of disposable income. And I buy a good amount of beer. So I'm not knocking people's ability to afford expensive tastes. I'm right there with them. However, I just feel like this is excessive... Well, at least we know why it's so rare now...
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That is ...excessive. Man did you guys see the new Sofie? "A new variant of our barrel-aged saison, Sofie. Sofie Pardisi uses grapefruit peel and juice in the barrel instead of the usual orange peel." I need to try this as I like Sofie and grapefruits are my favorite fruit.
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Bag of Sun Chips posted:Lets be honest, who wouldn't want this in their basement? I wonder if those would hold bombers as well as they hold wine bottles? If so, I see an upgrade in my future...
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ChiTownEddie posted:Man did you guys see the new Sofie? That sounds a thousand times better than Shiner Ruby Redbird. I hope it actually gets out of the Chicago area. quote:Meet a variant of Goose Island Sofie: Sofie Paradisi. Sofie, as you have come to know and love her, is a saison brewed with orange peel and aged in wine barrels. Keep citrus in the family, Paradisi uses grapefruit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BshIKBLYyBw
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Despite the end of this video, GI is saying this is draft only.
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