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Mahoning posted:Another article has been posted by Vanity Fair and it reveals a lot more info. Thanks for posting this. Lots more detail than I expected at this stage. They are at least saying a lot of the right things, although the "we're making up a lot" is coming through loud and clear. also quote:The pair were quick to point out that the Jackson films were not their only inspiration. “The universe that this show wants to be in is Tolkien’s—and that’s an umbrella over Peter’s films—and Led Zeppelin, John Howe’s paintings, and The Hobbit cartoon,” McKay says. Not gonna lie, if they could somehow close an episode with The Immigrant Song or No Quarter my 13 year-old self would be pretty darn psyched.
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In other visual LOTR news.... https://variety.com/2022/film/news/lord-of-the-rings-the-war-of-the-rohirrim-release-date-1235181646/ quote:‘Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim’ Anime Feature Set for April 2024 Release by Warner Bros. (EXCLUSIVE)
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Mahoning posted:
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feedmyleg posted:The more I hear these guys talk the more pessimistic I feel. Hopefully I'm wrong. How could this not make you happy? It’s the most Tolkien thing ever. 
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Feb 14, 2022 23:45
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I liked Blade Runner Black Lotus despite the uncanny valley of the character's faces. Literally everything else about it was cool af including the animation (except the faces)
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Feb 15, 2022 00:24
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Mahoning posted:Another article has been posted by Vanity Fair and it reveals a lot more info. It sounds like they have the right ideas. I don't like the Narsil design, though. I liked how Peter Jackson made sure it looked a bit dwarfey, especially around the pommel.
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Feb 15, 2022 00:37
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gently caress, Kenji Kamiyama, really? At least it's not Shinji Aramaki but I've been really annoyed at their massively overproduced but still dirt cheap looking CGI anime.
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Mahoning posted:How could this not make you happy? It’s the most Tolkien thing ever. I pretty much already assumed the elves would sound like upper class English people.
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Feb 15, 2022 01:08
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Give the Elves Finnish accents, cowards.
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OctaviusBeaver posted:I pretty much already assumed the elves would sound like upper class English people. Uhhh that’s not what I meant. I meant certain races speaking in iambs and others in trochees. That is SO Tolkien
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Feb 15, 2022 01:20
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I will flip and forgive all other trespasses if they speak in OE alliterative verse during normal conversation.
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GaussianCopula posted:There is a difference between creating your own story while being informed by lore/narratives that existed before and changing an already existing story to fit your creative vision. Turin is based on a Finnish folktale Numenor is literally (literally ) Atlantis
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Mahoning posted:How could this not make you happy? It’s the most Tolkien thing ever. If nothing else, a number of people working on this care a lot. That bodes well. I'm ready for it to be trash, but these are good things.
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Mahoning posted:How could this not make you happy? It’s the most Tolkien thing ever. Yeah that actually could be very good
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Mahoning posted:How could this not make you happy? It’s the most Tolkien thing ever. Highbrow dialogue: "my AXE is LODGED in HIS nerVOUS sysTEM!"
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BetterLekNextTime posted:Not gonna lie, if they could somehow close an episode with The Immigrant Song or No Quarter my 13 year-old self would be pretty darn psyched. Excuse you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_AfMHCVoxA
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webmeister posted:In other visual LOTR news.... good grief
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Mahoning posted:Another article has been posted by Vanity Fair and it reveals a lot more info. That season one writers room was packed with talented minds who know a thing or two about creating in the genre space. Game of Thrones’ Bryan Cogman worked, briefly, to get the project started, while Jason Cahill (Fringe, Halt and Catch Fire), Stephany Folsom (Thor Ragnarok), Justin Doble (Stranger Things), Gennifer Hutchison (Breaking Bad), Helen Shang (Hannibal), and Glenise Mullins (Star Trek: Discovery) fleshed out the rest of the team. these are mostly shows that suck balls
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the reason i think it wont be good is that most modern shows (and movies, like anything jj abrams) like that tend to meander and lack an ethical or philosophical core, tolkien needs catholicism to work and i think theres no chance in hell theyll buck the trend this time and have a consistent tone and thrust without character driven filler and sideshows about an elf who wants to gently caress a dwarf or whatever
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Yeah the best I'll be getting out of this is like what I get out of those neat paintings people do of the setting. Just leave the interpretation to the viewer.
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My reason for concern would be the amount of original material/dialogue they'll have to write for this. Got did manage to write some good stuff that didn't originate with Grrm but a lot of their original material sucked rear end and trying to properly capture the spirit of Tolkien is even a harder task than channeling Grmm imo. Of course it's an adaptation so it doesn't have to perfectly capture the tone of Tolkien's stuff but there's a lot of potential to veer way off the rails here, for better or worse.
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I mean there's a lot of headroom between "close enough to JRRT dialogue that it's sort of uncanny valley, but ehh good enough" and "axe in nervous system"
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Data Graham posted:I mean there's a lot of headroom between "close enough to JRRT dialogue that it's sort of uncanny valley, but ehh good enough" and "axe in nervous system" and orc menus
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if they stick to the meters thing that can help a lot to at the very least avoid the most modern stuff working its way in
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ChubbyChecker posted:and orc menus You lost me there. That line owns. I absolutely love it.
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Mahoning posted:You lost me there. That line owns. I absolutely love it. yeah, it's a very funny line, just not at all tolkienish
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Just treat it like there's a Red Book of Westmarch the dialogue is translated from, it's not like the orcs spoke English
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The menu line is kind of stupid but it’s not THAT far off the way orcs talk. They have a noticeably more colloquial and modern mode of speech. The biggest problem with it is it makes them out to be cannibals, which is very shabby accusation to make about orcs. You can argue forever about whether it’s reasonable that orcs would know about menus but it’s not among the worst one-liners they came up with for the movies.
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Unfortunately "menu" doesn't appear to have an Anglo-Saxon translation At the mercy of the Normans once again
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I'm not sure the concept of a menu even exists in that world. When the Hobbits go to Bree they don't order anything, they're fed and given beer but it's brought out to them and not something they sit there and order. Without modern transportation it would be pretty difficult if not impossible to run a restaurant in the way we'd be accustomed to. In the context of lotr, it's probably more like a standing fee you pay at the inn to get boarded/fed/drink. I doubt there's a la carte services.
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Menus are a lost Numenorean technology. Guarantee the coffeehouses of Andunie at its height had very tasteful menus
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Two flung themselves to the ground at Éomer’s heels, tripped him, and in a moment they were on top of him. But a small dark figure that none had observed sprang out of the shadows and gave a hoarse shout: Baruk Khazâd! Khazâd ai-mênu!
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Were restaurants invented by the French. Did they independently invent restaurants in other parts of the world.
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Menu does not imply a la carte imho. It’s just a list of what’s available for food and drink
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I'd be kinda down for letting Númenor be quite a bit more advanced than "Third Age Minas Tirith", as per the original steam-engines concept. Maybe not "Age of Legends" style, but coffeehouses and electric lights maybe?
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SHISHKABOB posted:Were restaurants invented by the French. Did they independently invent restaurants in other parts of the world. Ancient Romans had restaurants/outdoor lunch counters, because not everyone in the big cities had their own kitchen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermopolium?wprov=sfti1
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The orc(1) that says that line is from orthanc which actually has tons of food and different foods . 1 orc-human
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euphronius posted:The orc(1) that says that line is from orthanc which actually has tons of food and different foods . Are the fighting Uruk-hai still part men in the movies? I thought they were just designed slime beasts
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I figure Orcs don't have restaurants but could conceivably have mess halls or canteens as part of Mordor and Isengard's industrialized militarism, and those could have "menus" in the sense of what's available on any given day. But maybe I'm unclear on how the word is used since I'm not a native English speaker. That or they picked up the word while raiding human taverns and such.
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skasion posted:Are the fighting Uruk-hai still part men in the movies? I thought they were just designed slime beasts Yeah I guess the movies confuse it .
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