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RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Corrode posted:

I'm a stubborn idiot and refused to let him win.

Regardless of your nationality, you're an American Hero and Patriot for sticking it out.

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Serotonin
Jul 14, 2001

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*

Corrode posted:

Horrific torture of a game

I checked the FB group to see who you were playing and noted it under people to never ever play. Sorry I've been a bit poo poo in organizing a game with you. I promise I don't play like that. I will find a date soon.

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

Serotonin posted:

I checked the FB group to see who you were playing and noted it under people to never ever play. Sorry I've been a bit poo poo in organizing a game with you. I promise I don't play like that. I will find a date soon.

No worries. I've been busy too, this was my first game in a month. We'll get to it.

Thanqol
Feb 15, 2012

because our character has the 'poet' trait, this update shall be told in the format of a rap battle.
My own Sunday game with the Agrippa army went much better. We both understood the math and didn't waste any time chit-chatting and slammed the thing out in 2 hours, and then talked about painting for another hour.

He was Necrons. Monolith, annihilation barge, walker, flyer, destroyers, and 20 or so warriors. I absolutely slammed him into the table despite losing the first turn and letting him set up the terrain and objectives as a consolation for him not having a Codex. He did what so many players have done wrong in games against me: Become irrationally fixated on taking down the Sidonian Dragoon. That thing absorbed like 800 points worth of stuff shooting at it, and it's done similar in the past - and then the Dominus ran up and high-fived it back to nearly full health. It's so durable and so cheap and for only 70 points it's crazy how much hate it draws.

He also focused fire in shooting up my vanguard which was another big mistake. The vanguard are there to catch bullets. He blew every one off the table by the end of turn two, but then the Kataphrons rolled around and opened up with their grav cannons and turns out that those are p good against necron warriors. One turn of shooting wiped all 20 of them. Then the Knight swanned across the table, drop kicked his overlord into the horizon, and then unloaded all its guns into a Monolith point blank and blew it away. I can't believe that thing has no invulnerable save!

I didn't use my forge world stratagem, relic or warlord trait at all on account of him never charging me or spending CP, but if I did this well against an army that did none of the things I feel pretty confident against a more dedicated melee list.

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

Omg your post has reminded me, we had 17 command points between us and I forgot Grand Strategist and Kurov's Aquila. I even used the loving reroll from the trait but not the actual good part. gently caress me bloody haha

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

Corrode posted:

Omg your post has reminded me, we had 17 command points between us and I forgot Grand Strategist and Kurov's Aquila. I even used the loving reroll from the trait but not the actual good part. gently caress me bloody haha
That would have probably added another 2 hours to the game as your opponent bitches more about codexes and fails to grasp basic concepts.

It's for the best.

chutche2
Jul 3, 2010

CUPOLA MY BALLS

Thanqol posted:

My own Sunday game with the Agrippa army went much better. We both understood the math and didn't waste any time chit-chatting and slammed the thing out in 2 hours, and then talked about painting for another hour.

He was Necrons. Monolith, annihilation barge, walker, flyer, destroyers, and 20 or so warriors. I absolutely slammed him into the table despite losing the first turn and letting him set up the terrain and objectives as a consolation for him not having a Codex. He did what so many players have done wrong in games against me: Become irrationally fixated on taking down the Sidonian Dragoon. That thing absorbed like 800 points worth of stuff shooting at it, and it's done similar in the past - and then the Dominus ran up and high-fived it back to nearly full health. It's so durable and so cheap and for only 70 points it's crazy how much hate it draws.

He also focused fire in shooting up my vanguard which was another big mistake. The vanguard are there to catch bullets. He blew every one off the table by the end of turn two, but then the Kataphrons rolled around and opened up with their grav cannons and turns out that those are p good against necron warriors. One turn of shooting wiped all 20 of them. Then the Knight swanned across the table, drop kicked his overlord into the horizon, and then unloaded all its guns into a Monolith point blank and blew it away. I can't believe that thing has no invulnerable save!

I didn't use my forge world stratagem, relic or warlord trait at all on account of him never charging me or spending CP, but if I did this well against an army that did none of the things I feel pretty confident against a more dedicated melee list.

Yeah after playing admech a few times my target priority is to kill kataphrons, dunecrawlers, and robots first. I'll put my bolter fire into vanguard maybe but all the heavy bolter and assault cannons and all that are fixated on kataphrons. First game against them gravcannon kataphrons poo poo all over me, blasting whole marine squads in cover apart like they weren't there. I haven't actually fought any ironstriders or dragoons yet.

Serotonin
Jul 14, 2001

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*

Corrode posted:

No worries. I've been busy too, this was my first game in a month. We'll get to it.

Yeah same. Im tied up for next two weekends with NFL games in London, but after that I should be good. At least this way most of my force will be painted by the time it hits the table for our game.

Thanqol
Feb 15, 2012

because our character has the 'poet' trait, this update shall be told in the format of a rap battle.

chutche2 posted:

Yeah after playing admech a few times my target priority is to kill kataphrons, dunecrawlers, and robots first. I'll put my bolter fire into vanguard maybe but all the heavy bolter and assault cannons and all that are fixated on kataphrons. First game against them gravcannon kataphrons poo poo all over me, blasting whole marine squads in cover apart like they weren't there. I haven't actually fought any ironstriders or dragoons yet.

Dragoons are unbelievably fantastic and I want six of them in my army. I want to replace every single Skitarii squad with another Dragoon.

For 68 points you get a 10' move, T6 4+ save that's likely 3+ from Shroudpsalm with a -1 hit wrapping 6 wounds. That alone is vastly better than a squad of Vanguard with special weapons at the same price point, but the Dragoons also get a S8 AP-1 2d melee attack that, for the cost of 1CP on Conqueror Protocol hits 3 times on a 4+. A full lance of them can with average rolls murder a Knight in a single charge. Things get even better with Omniscient Mask/Ryza doctrine.

The only catch is they cost more in dollars than in points. But the upside is that they are the coolest models GW has ever produced, have the best fluff of any single unit, and are the reason I started collecting AdMech in the first place.

Thanqol fucked around with this message at 08:55 on Oct 15, 2017

a cock shaped fruit
Aug 23, 2010



The true enemy of humanity is disorder.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Regal Skulls Intercessors!



The last time I painted a complete squad was five years ago. Feels great.

gently caress+yeah=your dudes.

TheChirurgeon
Aug 7, 2002

Remember how good you are
Taco Defender

Killer_Bees! posted:

Baby Titan reporting in



This guy looks great! I love the patina/pitting effect on the copper. How'd you do that?

Killer_Bees!
Dec 25, 2005

I, for one, welcome
our new insect overlords.
Buglord

TheChirurgeon posted:

This guy looks great! I love the patina/pitting effect on the copper. How'd you do that?

Thanks bro, Balthasar Gold with a wash of Nuln Oil, and then a quick scruff with Leadbelcher. It’s a simple recipe I have been abusing for a while for Armor trims, was lucky it worked on something bigger.

Post 9-11 User
Apr 14, 2010
Huh, never knew, "leafblower" involved fallback moves. In my circles it just meant shitloads of Guard shooting that would blow armies off the table.

Artum
Feb 13, 2012

DUN da dun dun da DUUUN
Soiled Meat

Corrode posted:

I'm a stubborn idiot and refused to let him win.

Good job in that respect.

Man gently caress that guy.

Der Waffle Mous
Nov 27, 2009

In the grim future, there is only commerce.
There's gotta be a list of the worst dollars-to-points ratios for plastic kits in the game.

I know the Dragoon has to be in the top 5 at least.

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013

Der Waffle Mous posted:

There's gotta be a list of the worst dollars-to-points ratios for plastic kits in the game.

I know the Dragoon has to be in the top 5 at least.

I think the Ork artillery are in an even worse boat. They're all priced as small vehicles, each their own box. But in game they are made up into units, I think minimum 3, and are pretty trifling in points value.

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

Serotonin posted:

Yeah same. Im tied up for next two weekends with NFL games in London, but after that I should be good. At least this way most of my force will be painted by the time it hits the table for our game.

Cool cool. My army will be in various states of painted because I've gone full ham and bought a ton of stuff and I'm excited about all of it, despite having like 20,000pts of painted stuff already across 5 armies.

Post 9-11 User posted:

Huh, never knew, "leafblower" involved fallback moves. In my circles it just meant shitloads of Guard shooting that would blow armies off the table.

It was a really useful part of the list. You used 1-2 Psyker Battle Squads to drop enemy leadership, shot them up, then used the Vendettas to escort them off the table. It wasn't the main focus, but it was a very useful tool in the toolbox.

Thanqol posted:

Dragoons are unbelievably fantastic and I want six of them in my army. I want to replace every single Skitarii squad with another Dragoon.

For 68 points you get a 10' move, T6 4+ save that's likely 3+ from Shroudpsalm with a -1 hit wrapping 6 wounds. That alone is vastly better than a squad of Vanguard with special weapons at the same price point, but the Dragoons also get a S8 AP-1 2d melee attack that, for the cost of 1CP on Conqueror Protocol hits 3 times on a 4+. A full lance of them can with average rolls murder a Knight in a single charge. Things get even better with Omniscient Mask/Ryza doctrine.

The only catch is they cost more in dollars than in points. But the upside is that they are the coolest models GW has ever produced, have the best fluff of any single unit, and are the reason I started collecting AdMech in the first place.

Dragoons are great yeah. If I was gonna run pure Ad Mech, I'd have four of them just sitting around screening against DS and turn 1 chargers, then if any survive they're deceptively fast for running off and grabbing objectives or charging small squads and so on. Definitely not cheap though in real world money though which is why I'll be using Conscripts for now.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Der Waffle Mous posted:

There's gotta be a list of the worst dollars-to-points ratios for plastic kits in the game.

I know the Dragoon has to be in the top 5 at least.

Mek Gunz. Sweet jesus, Mek Gunz.

The Sex Cannon
Nov 22, 2004

Eh. I'm pretty content with my current logo.

Killer_Bees! posted:

Baby Titan reporting in



Excellent work!

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.
I finished a Hellhound that's been sitting primed on my desk for like a year, yay!
But now I've run out of Badcast episodes to listen to when I paint. :argh:

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

Groetgaffel posted:

I finished a Hellhound that's been sitting primed on my desk for like a year, yay!
But now I've run out of Badcast episodes to listen to when I paint. :argh:

Horror movies are excellent painting background noise.

Soggy Chips
Sep 26, 2006

Fear is the mind killer
Looking for inspirations for conversion with my second Gravis captain into either Gabriel Angelos or a Librarian. Anyone got some sweet pictures for inspiration?
Played my first game of 40K on Friday, seemed straight forward enough. Sadly didn't get to see a combat phase as the other guy's bikers failed a charge before they got melted by rapid fire.

Need more toys.... :10bux:xlots

goose willis
Jun 14, 2015

Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!
My advice for background noise while painting is still Kitchen Nightmares, but NOT the UK version, only the US one

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me
how tf can u paint while yer screaming at the tv

goose willis
Jun 14, 2015

Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!
Gordon Ramsay does all the screaming for you it's very efficient

Zark the Damned
Mar 9, 2013

GW Just confirmed Eldar are next: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/10/15/coming-soon-a-new-codex-for-the-craftworlds/ - previews next week with pre-order on Saturday

Plus announcing some Craftworld dice, separate release of Eldrad from Death Masque and the next wave of made to order being classic Eldar minis.

I guess there won't be anything actually new like with most of the other Codex releases.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
drat I am pumped.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
God loving drat I'm gonna have to get my begging pants on, I want that Bonesinger.

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.
My guess/hope is that GW is hauling rear end to give everyone a codex as soon as possible, and that they're then going to start a new cycle of releases, with both new models and a new codex.

Theoretically, once every faction has their codex, and 8th has been around for a while, they'd be in a much better position balance wise when writing the second round of codexes. Theoretically.

Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under


Maybe someday our aspect warrior models will be new :smith:

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me
those dice are lit

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.
I'm all aboard for the inevitable Necron dice.

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me
nah fam necrons will get inscrutable garbo dice like death guard

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
Death Guard dice are great and I'll fight anyone who says otherwise.

I love my squishy, terrible-rolling sons.

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me
is that one showing three pustules or four i cant rly tell from here

Thundercloud
Mar 28, 2010

To boldly be eaten where no grot has been eaten before!
Apparently there are another 4 sets of campaign books (and likely worldwide campaigns) written and ready to go. So I'd expect a fair bit of that.

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me


which genius picked this design ffs

goose willis
Jun 14, 2015

Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

Phyresis posted:

nah fam necrons will get inscrutable garbo dice like death guard
Oh yeah probably. But I already have loads of normal dice. I want Necron dice just for fun.
Just like those Gothic dice that came in a tin looking like a lasgun charge pack together with those servoskull markers. They roll terrible, and are difficult to read, but they look cool.


Phyresis posted:

is that one showing three pustules or four i cant rly tell from here
That's why you hit them with Reikland Fleshshade first, duh. Makes them both easier to read and more disgusting looking.

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ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

goose willis posted:

My advice for background noise while painting is still Kitchen Nightmares, but NOT the UK version, only the US one

Ah, the one with the honking soundtrack, I see.

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