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"Officially" he can't, but we all know he's still going to get the final say on everything.
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Gene Roddenberry getting slowly pushed out of making executive decisions (and eventually kicking the bucket) gave us some of the best Trek there is. Star Wars will only get better the further George Lucas stays away from it. Unfortunately he's not gonna be out of the picture for a long time, even if he doesn't own the franchise anymore. E: not actually advocating for his death here or anything, rereading my post made it seem that way 
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Sep 27, 2013 21:13
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I don't want Lucas to die. I just want him to quit messing with Star Wars every time there is a remote chance of something vaguely decent coming out from it.
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Sep 27, 2013 22:02
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Disney needs to hire an intern whose job it is to just smile and nod at everything George says when he tries to give them ideas. Make a big show of being surprised and interested and writing it down on an official-looking clipboard and everything.
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Sep 27, 2013 22:06
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I'm looking to pick up a new Star Wars book, but I'm wanting something that doesn't center around the movie characters. If you had to say, what are the top 5 non-main-three-centric books? Bonus points if the main three aren't in it at all. Extra bonus points if they're not alive yet/dead. This rule also applies to prequel characters.
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Sep 27, 2013 22:55
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-Fish- posted:I'm looking to pick up a new Star Wars book, but I'm wanting something that doesn't center around the movie characters. Not a book, but have you tried the Legacy comic series? (NOT Legacy of the Force, the book series) They should be out in trade paperback omnibus editions and the series is actually pretty durn good (and I say this as someone who never reads comics). The movie characters are all dead and buried, and the only real throwback to the OT is that the main character is Luke's great-grandkid or something, and Luke shows up as a Force ghost like twice. The series stands really well on its own and feels like good Star Wars. Plus, it has Imperial Knights, and Imperial Knights rule. If you want something set during familiar time periods that don't revolve entirely around movie characters, look no farther than the X-Wing series. The first four books are generally Fairly Good, even if Corran Horn is the worst Mary Sue in the entire EU. Or just skip straight to book five for some awesome Wraith Squadron.
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Sep 27, 2013 23:01
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Drone posted:Not a book, but have you tried the Legacy comic series? (NOT Legacy of the Force, the book series) I've heard the Legacy series is absolutely phenomenal, I might have to pick up a few of them for an upcoming flight. I'm mostly looking for something to listen to during my commute to work however.
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Sep 27, 2013 23:04
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On the other hand I'll say that Legacy was terrible. When you begin with "Luke Skywalker's drug-addicted grandchild and also the Sith are back" it can only really go downhill from there. It hits a lot of the worst of the worst of the EU. It's not the worst the EU has to offer but it's not very good either.
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Sep 28, 2013 01:00
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-Fish- posted:If you had to say, what are the top 5 non-main-three-centric books? Bonus points if the main three aren't in it at all. Extra bonus points if they're not alive yet/dead. This rule also applies to prequel characters. Xwing novels. Second place would be the Medstar books in my opinion.
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Sep 28, 2013 01:52
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Ugh I don't know, he said not in the movies and Wedge, Tycho, Hobbie, and Wes all play major roles in multiple movies
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Sep 28, 2013 02:02
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Conquistador posted:Ugh I don't know, he said not in the movies and Wedge, Tycho, Hobbie, and Wes all play major roles in multiple movies I am fairly sure that, except for maybe Wedge, few people who saw the movies could name those characters.
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Sep 28, 2013 02:03
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Sep 28, 2013 02:12
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ImpAtom posted:I am fairly sure that, except for maybe Wedge, few people who saw the movies could name those characters. Aw come on, who can forget "Good shot, Janson!" and, "Two fighters against a Star Destroyer?" and, uh... that one A-Wing that flies towards the second Death Star in that one shot?
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Sep 28, 2013 03:20
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-Fish- posted:I'm looking to pick up a new Star Wars book, but I'm wanting something that doesn't center around the movie characters. The X-Wing books would be my first recommendation, specifically books 5, 6, and 7. The first four form one story line by one author and are decent but have a really mary-sue-ish main character, and the next 3 are a different storyline by a different author. Han shows up briefly, but he's in a command role and has maybe a chapter of real "screen time" in those three books.
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Sep 28, 2013 03:33
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Chairman Capone posted:I actually think AOTC had the worst music of the Star Wars films. It's the only one that doesn't really have any memorable new themes of its own, just recycling stuff from earlier movies or having new stuff that's completely forgettable (like the chase music near the start that uses electric guitars...probably one of the few John Williams duds I can think of off the top of my head). Wait, the chase on Coruscant? I thought the electric guitar was just engine noise.
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Sep 28, 2013 07:14
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Danny Dravot posted:Wait, the chase on Coruscant? I thought the electric guitar was just engine noise. As I recall there is some electric guitar in that track of the soundtrack but it was left out of the movie.
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Sep 28, 2013 21:15
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Big Mean Jerk posted:There's a fantastic article about the demise of LucasArts over at Kotaku. Two things that stick out: Yeah, if you ever watched any of the behind-the-scenes clips of the people making The Clone Wars cartoon, every other video the director would be like "Well we had an idea for a really cool episode, but George watched Godzilla the night before so all that got scrapped, hope you like the Zillo Beast." They made it seem like George would wander in, mention what he watched the night before and then say "ok, do that", and then wander off.
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Sep 28, 2013 21:42
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Sep 28, 2013 22:11
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Audible just released Specter of the Past in unabridged form. Sooner or later they're probably going to get to the X-Wing series too.
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Sep 29, 2013 00:04
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I'm reading (listening to) Crucible, and good god it reminded me how lame Jagged Fel is. They just described him as like, the best pilot, best commando, former head of state, worlds best badass, better than most Jedi, married to Jaina. I seem to recall thinking he was cool like, 10 years ago
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Sep 29, 2013 06:17
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Conquistador posted:I'm reading (listening to) Crucible, and good god it reminded me how lame Jagged Fel is. They just described him as like, the best pilot, best commando, former head of state, worlds best badass, better than most Jedi, married to Jaina. I always just kinda read him as the Empire's analog to Wedge/Tycho/Luke in terms of piloting skill. As Rebels, Wedge/Tycho/Luke are all very humble about their abilities, but an Imperial version of them definitely wouldn't be. They'd be arrogant, imperious (hurr) assholes just like Jagged Fel comes across as (at first). At what point in the canon did Tycho defect to the rebellion again? I seem to remember it was pretty late, then they eventually shoehorned him in as one of the A-Wing pilots in ROTJ.
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Sep 29, 2013 12:08
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He was on a space phonecall to Alderaan for his birthday when it dropped, and he was still at 5 bars of service.
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Sep 29, 2013 12:23
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Conquistador posted:I'm reading (listening to) Crucible, and good god it reminded me how lame Jagged Fel is. They just described him as like, the best pilot, best commando, former head of state, worlds best badass, better than most Jedi, married to Jaina. I think this stems from the fact that Denning refused to agree to Jaina and Jag getting together unless he could have Jag leave the Empire and move into the Jedi Temple with Jaina. Never mind how stupid that is from the established storyline for him. And in Denning's world, if you're going to live with the Jedi then you need to be basically a super-powered awesome soldier yourself, because he doesn't have any imagination.
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Sep 29, 2013 13:32
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I'm going to give Razor's Edge a try. I was skeptical about Kenobi and that turned out to be the best EU release since Scoundrels, so I figure it's worth a go.
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Sep 29, 2013 21:25
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Drone posted:I always just kinda read him as the Empire's analog to Wedge/Tycho/Luke in terms of piloting skill. As Rebels, Wedge/Tycho/Luke are all very humble about their abilities, but an Imperial version of them definitely wouldn't be. They'd be arrogant, imperious (hurr) assholes just like Jagged Fel comes across as (at first).
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Sep 29, 2013 21:52
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Ravenfood posted:Isn't he the son of the actual Imperial analogue to Wedge? Soontir Fel or something like that?
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Sep 29, 2013 21:57
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Casimir Radon posted:I'm going to give Razor's Edge a try. I was skeptical about Kenobi and that turned out to be the best EU release since Scoundrels, so I figure it's worth a go. I thought it was all right. Not terrible but not amazing, either.
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I started rereading the Bounty Hunter Wars a little while ago and I'm on the third book now. This is the first time I'm reading the trilogy in about 10 years. A lot of people focus on the fact that the plot and all the schemes all the characters are involved in make absolutely no sense when they criticize this series. To them I say  The real crime of the series is that vast parts of the book are just people talking to each other while inner monologuing about how much smarter they are and how many steps ahead they are or some other bullshit that I don't care about. Prior to rereading the series I remembered the encounter with the Shell Hutts and the escape from the Sarlaac and Tatooine in Book 1, stealing Bossk's ship in Book 1 or 2, and I remember Boba Fett blasting out of Kuat Drive Yars at the end of Book 3 (which I haven't gotten to yet on this retread). Before I started I thought it was just the years that made me forget what actually happens in most of the series. It turns out I completely forgot how much of the series was Kuat of Kuat, or Prince Xizor, or the Assembler waxing philosophical and "scheming." All of these sequences are utterly boring, the greatest sin a form of entertainment can commit. Especially the Xizor sections since who gives a poo poo about his machinations in the Emperor's court when we already know he's just gonna die as this series came out a couple years after Shadows of the Empire. The best parts of the books are the few action scenes and any time Bossk is being punked by Boba Fett. Bossk is the true MVP of the series when it comes to entertainment. I've been jokingly recommending people read this series because of the convoluted plot. I can't do that anymore. Batshit crazy can be a lot of fun, boring is not.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:There's a fantastic article about the demise of LucasArts over at Kotaku. Two things that stick out: This just makes me sad. Also, to be fair to Lucas, he's less the source of the problem and more a symptom. I can't believe I'm saying this but I hope Disney and EA get LucasFilm/Arts on some kind of coherent path and vision again. This article also mentions some kind of X-Wing-esque WiiU game. I wonder how close it would've been to X-Wing as opposed to say Rogue Squadron?
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Thwomp posted:This article also mentions some kind of X-Wing-esque WiiU game. I wonder how close it would've been to X-Wing as opposed to say Rogue Squadron? Hey now, the first two Rogue Squadron games were legitimately pretty good. I'd kill for a War Thunder-esque MMO set in the Star Wars universe though. 
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Epi Lepi posted:Especially the Xizor sections since who gives a poo poo about his machinations in the Emperor's court when we already know he's just gonna die as this series came out a couple years after Shadows of the Empire. It's amazing how rapidly the Xizor character used up whatever novelty and coolness he and the Falleen had. Outside of Shadows of the Empire, Xizor is usually boring and ultimately unimportant like in the Bounty Hunter trilogy since you know what's going to become of him. I finally read Tatooine Ghost and actually thought "Oh God, what now?" when a random Falleen was in a flashback/diary sequence. Thankfully it was just a throwaway character... as far as I know.
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The best thing Xizor did was give Darth Vader flagship some excellent target practice.
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Chairman Capone posted:I think this stems from the fact that Denning refused to agree to Jaina and Jag getting together unless he could have Jag leave the Empire and move into the Jedi Temple with Jaina. Never mind how stupid that is from the established storyline for him. And in Denning's world, if you're going to live with the Jedi then you need to be basically a super-powered awesome soldier yourself, because he doesn't have any imagination. gently caress man. That is so goddamned lame man. I just got a little mad because of loving EU Star Wars and that is so goddamned lame
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Conquistador posted:When I read the first X-Wing book I was a kid and not entirely sure what cleavage meant (Erisi, you tramp) and I asked my mom. this exact thing happened to me except for the boner.
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That's because they did things out of order. They needed to use Xizor in early stuff to build up his importance then kill him for the shock value. As it is, he shows up in Shadows then immediately dies like a bitch which kills the whole idea of him being a power player from the word go.
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He can hang with Dooku and other semi lame Star Wars villains, who got a bit more mileage but still was embarrassingly killed off way too quickly.
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SeanBeansShako posted:He can hang with Dooku and other semi lame Star Wars villains, who got a bit more mileage but still was embarrassingly killed off way too quickly.
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King of Foolians posted:Yeah, if you ever watched any of the behind-the-scenes clips of the people making The Clone Wars cartoon, every other video the director would be like "Well we had an idea for a really cool episode, but George watched Godzilla the night before so all that got scrapped, hope you like the Zillo Beast." They made it seem like George would wander in, mention what he watched the night before and then say "ok, do that", and then wander off. On the plus side, the Zilla beast two parter was an excellent homage to King Kong and Godzilla. It also had Palpatine allowing himself to be hilariously over the top evil. And that's always good.
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Casimir Radon posted:Which was an odd choice. They went to all the trouble to create this big multimedia project to test the water for the prequels. Then most of the characters created for it hardly ever appear again. Didn't it make enough money for Lucas to consider chancing it with the prequel movies? that is what I thought the end result for Shadows really was myself.
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