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Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.

unpacked robinhood posted:

Typical poor househould: one naked CFL or cheap LED hanging from the ceiling (always a nice blueish warehouse tint), parents are smoking inside, kids are eating garbage while inhaling the smoke, watching the retardest content the CSA will allow on air.

Later the kids mysteriously turn out asthmatic.

Source your quotes.

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unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Poverty also make it harder for people to think long term and forgo the immediate satisfaction of comfort food and cigarettes (and blue light in the living room)

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

unpacked robinhood posted:

Jews mysteriously relocating away from some parts of east and northern Paris.

Still not far enough

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

I really like it's start by a reminder of the 5 euros thing, next time a Claire O'Petit style politician make a stupid remark about that kind of thing, just point out people fighting to the blood for a 3 euro discount.

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.
Shockingly enough, the biggest two-faced bastard in the country is not a politician.

And this is some bullshit:

quote:

L’informaticien de 34 ans « a reconnu avoir tué son épouse, mais il a dit que c’était un accident, qu’il ne voulait pas et il regrette », ont indiqué à l’AFP ses avocats, Ornella Spatafora et Randall Schwerdorffer.

« Il l’a étranglée », a ajouté Randall Schwerdorffer, qui a par ailleurs assuré sur BFM TV que Jonathann Daval n’était « pas dans une logique criminelle » et le disait « dévasté ».

« Nous ne défendrons pas un meurtrier, pas un assassin, mais un jeune garçon qui a de façon accidentelle occasionné la mort de son épouse » a encore ajouté Me Schwerdorffer, décrivant un homme qui se sentait « écrasé » par la personnalité de sa femme.

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Women, can't live without them, can't not choke them to death vOv

lost in postation
Aug 14, 2009

Un jeune garçon de 34 ans qui a étranglé sa femme sans logique criminelle lmao

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


Kassad posted:

Shockingly enough, the biggest two-faced bastard in the country is not a politician.

And this is some bullshit:

Lawyer is a piece of poo poo, stop the presses!

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.
It's more the way that media outlets initially repeated what the lawyer said about "killing by accident" without any critical distance.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Of course lawyers are going to try to defend their clients, it's what they're supposed to do. This one figures that his best chance to defend his client is to sell the idea of accidental manslaughter rather than premeditated degree; so that's what he's doing.

I'm more shocked by the claim he didn't set hide the corpse nor set it on fire. Yeah, that one will go really far.

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Le mauvais criminel il tue sa femme, mais bon il est dans une logique criminelle.

C'est un peu comme la phobie administrative mais avec une bâche et un bidon de super

unpacked robinhood fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jan 30, 2018

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.

Cat Mattress posted:

This one figures that his best chance to defend his client is to sell the idea of accidental manslaughter rather than premeditated degree; so that's what he's doing.

It's still murder, not manslaughter. The lawyer is blatantly trying to salvage what he can and limit how long the guy will be in prison, yeah.

Huh, Wikipedia says there's such a thing as "voluntary manslaughter" in the US (and maybe the UK?). Pretty sure that's just treated as a type of murder in France.

lost in postation
Aug 14, 2009

Ce qu'ils visent c'est avec/sans préméditation ici je pense, parce que homicide involontaire en droit français c'est pas vraiment pour quand tu étrangles quelqu'un avec tes propres mains (à plus forte raison quand tu brûles le corps mais passons)

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
Yes that young boy of 34 years, might as well try him as a minor.

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


Nan mais attendez, l'avocat il a l'audace de dire "oui non mais il l'a étranglée par accident, et pis faut le comprendre il était écrasé par la personnalité de sa femme"

Dans 30 secondes il va demander la clémence des juges parce que c'était un crime passionnel ou je ne sais quelle défense à la con des mecs qui butent leur femme

L'avocat est un sale type parce qu'il sait pertinemment qu'il véhicule des argumentaires sexistes de merde et minimise un cas classique de violence sexiste mais ça le dérange pas plus que ça.

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
It's like than one lawyer who defended a piece of poo poo no one likes by spouting obvious bullshit, loving rear end in a top hat.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
the real news story here:

Jonathann Davall

Ornella Spatafora

Randall Schwerdorffer.

Why the third "n" in Johnathan

Why are those names so funny to me. I mean Randall?

Imo the parents are responsible when they added that n, you can't do that a person and not expect them to turn bad

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
But more seriously, was this in the news recently? It's the first I hear of this.

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.
It was in the news back in October when the women "disappeared" and her body was eventually found. Then it dropped off the radar the usual way until the husband was arrested yesterday.

The wife's parents gave a statement that they trusted him, too.

Edit: Since I was saying some of the news coverage of it is infuriating, check out this poo poo.

https://twitter.com/BFMTV/status/958403106802454528

Kassad fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jan 31, 2018

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Kassad posted:

It was in the news back in October when the woman "disappeared" and her body was eventually found. Then it dropped off the radar the usual way until the husband was arrested yesterday.

The wife's parents gave a statement that they trusted him, too.

I might have watched too many law and order to be surprised by any of this

feel bad for the parents though, yikes.

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.

Kurtofan posted:

I might have watched too many law and order to be surprised by any of this

Pretty sure that statistically, he was always more likely to be the killer than anyone else.

And yeah, he's been lying to the parents and basically everyone for three months (and if the cops hadn't figured it out, welp). I'm not sure why the hell anyone would believe a thing he says now.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

Kassad posted:

Pretty sure that statistically, he was always more likely to be the killer than anyone else.

Plus de 50% des femmes sont tues par leur partenaires intimes que par quelqu'un d'autre. C'est un statistique Americain, mais je te paris que le chiffre en France est pas mal similaire. C'est bien vrai que les chancent etaient toujours que ce fut lui le meurtrier.

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

lost in postation posted:

Ce qu'ils visent c'est avec/sans préméditation ici je pense, parce que homicide involontaire en droit français c'est pas vraiment pour quand tu étrangles quelqu'un avec tes propres mains (à plus forte raison quand tu brûles le corps mais passons)
Je crois qu'il essaie plutot de presenter ses actes comme "commis sous l'emprise de la folie" et veut une deresponsabilisation psychiatrique. Je pense qu'il aura 10-15 ans pour "Violences ayant entraîné la mort sans intention de la donner" dans le meilleur (pour lui) des cas. Le doute sera sur ses intentions, c'est tout ce qu'il peut obtenir. Parce que le cirque du kidnapping et le corps brulé, ça fait un peu trop "je regarde trop d'épisode de columbo" pour ne pas paraitre prémédité. Il a de la chance que nous ne pratiquons plus la peine de mort, les rapaces seraient déjà dans les medias à demander sa mort.
edit: Jonathann LOL

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 11:40 on Jan 31, 2018

lost in postation
Aug 14, 2009

Je ne suis pas le genre de mec qui se branle dans les commentaires du Figaro sur l'incompétence de la justice mais s'il s'en sort comme ça après avoir participé en larmes à côté des parents de la meuf qu'il a étranglée à mort à une procession en son honneur je vais être un peu déprimé

Et oui, Jonathann Daval, on dirait un nom français inventé par un studio de jeux vidéos japonais

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Meurtre d'Alexia Daval: «Il n'y a pas de mots», ceux qui connaissent Jonathann ne comprennent pas

Well then

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Maman coud, et Jonathann

lost in postation posted:

Et oui, Jonathann Daval, on dirait un nom français inventé par un studio de jeux vidéos japonais

Lol

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


http://aslaguens.blog.lemonde.fr/20...que-judiciaire/

This is a good article


lost in postation posted:

Et oui, Jonathann Daval, on dirait un nom français inventé par un studio de jeux vidéos japonais

Lmao

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


Also BFMTV does its job well, nobody is talking about the huge strike in public nursing homes or about the collapsing health care system

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

lost in postation posted:

Je ne suis pas le genre de mec qui se branle dans les commentaires du Figaro sur l'incompétence de la justice mais s'il s'en sort comme ça après avoir participé en larmes à côté des parents de la meuf qu'il a étranglée à mort à une procession en son honneur je vais être un peu déprimé
On ne connait pas tous les détails de l'affaire mais ça resemble à un cas de perpetuité avec 20 ans incompressible.

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.
Dear civil servants: gently caress You And Die. Love, Édouard & Gérald

quote:

Mais la surprise est venue de Gérald Darmanin : le ministre de l'Action et des Comptes publics a annoncé qu'un "plan de départs volontaires" allait être discuté avec les organisations syndicales, dans le cadre des projets de réforme de l'Etat.

Il s'agit, selon le ministre, d'"imaginer avec les agents publics un plan de départs volontaires pour ceux qui souhaiteraient partir, en conséquence de la réforme de l'Etat".
""Il ne s'agit pas de faire un plan de départs volontaires pour tout le monde, bien évidemment. Il s'agit d'adapter nos services publics et de le faire avec et pour les agents publics", a affirmé Gérald Darmanin lors d'une conférence de presse."

Dans le projet du gouvernement, les possibilités de recourir aux contrats plutôt qu'au statut de fonctionnaire "seront largement étendues, notamment pour les métiers ne relevant pas d'une spécificité propre au service public", a annoncé le Premier ministre.

"Ce qui est en jeu, c'est d'adapter le statut de la fonction publique, de l'assouplir, de faire en sorte qu'il puisse redevenir un cadre efficace pour l'action publique", a-t-il plaidé.

Also, fun fact: Gérald Darmanin has been accused of rape. He counter-sued the woman for libel. But it's cool, Macron and Philippe trust him. And he got a standing ovation in the Assemblée a few days ago.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
In less aggravating news, there's this. loving finally. Finally they took notice that the US are waging a merciless economic war and that they need to develop some defenses against American attacks.

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Kassad posted:

Also, fun fact: Gérald Darmanin has been accused of rape. He counter-sued the woman for libel. But it's cool, Macron and Philippe trust him. And he got a standing ovation in the Assemblée a few days ago.
My favorite part of his defense is when he claims that it was "WRITTEN BLACK&WHITE IN HER DOSSIER: SHE IS A FORMER CALL GIRL". :discourse: No wonder Sarkozy supports him. That's nearly as ridiculous as the Laurent Wauquiez and mere Emmanuelle thing.

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.

Cat Mattress posted:

In less aggravating news, there's this. loving finally. Finally they took notice that the US are waging a merciless economic war and that they need to develop some defenses against American attacks.

It's interesting that they're doing this even though it might anger the USA.

In other news, here's an investment bank saying that Marx was right about capitalism all along. Not that we needed the confirmation, but still.

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Darmanin getting a random rape accusation from a known blackmailer isnt as cool and good as influential piece of poo poo and scholar of Islam tariq ramadan finally catching some of that metoo goodness.

Who's going to channel the modern and media friendly face of terror apologism and cultural antisemitism now

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.
I don't think you need to worry about Valls giving up his obsession with him anytime soon, no.

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


ymmv but I find Darmanin and his ilk to be infinitely more dangerous than Ramadan

In any case the rape accusation against Darmanin may not stand in court, but holy gently caress if he isn't an absolutely gross-rear end dude when you look at the detail of the accusations (which are supported by actual evidence)


Edit ahahahaha how fitting Darmanin’s lawyer’s twitter handle is @POSavocat

Flowers For Algeria fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Feb 3, 2018

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Flowers For Algeria posted:

In any case the rape accusation against Darmanin may not stand in court, but holy gently caress if he isn't an absolutely gross-rear end dude when you look at the detail of the accusations (which are supported by actual evidence)
Yeah he still used his position in the party to extort sex. But let's be honest, Rachida Dati ended up having a child with a casino magnate while they were negotiating the rights for a new casino at her minister of Justice, so no one will find anything bad to say about that kind of behavior.

unpacked robinhood posted:

Who's going to channel the modern and media friendly face of terror apologism and cultural antisemitism now
Well maybe his brother, so i can hear him repeat again that AIDS is god's divine curse sent to purge the "deviants", so we can have homophobia on the menu too. No wait he is still forbidden to enter France. C'est pas grave, c'est pas les petit-fils d'Hassan el-Banna qui manquent.

ElNarez
Nov 4, 2009

Toplowtech posted:

Yeah he still used his position in the party to extort sex. But let's be honest, Rachida Dati ended up having a child with a casino magnate while they were negotiating the rights for a new casino at her minister of Justice, so no one will find anything bad to say about that kind of behavior.

yeah but Nicolas Sarkozy never ran on the story of "La République Exemplaire"

like, what Darmanin has done is ghoulish enough on its own, but the behavior of En Marche, both the leaders and the rank-and-file, just threw out any pretense of their being a renewal of practices in France's politics, and it's not even been a year

there's a point where people will notice that poo poo, and it will go very sour, very fast

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

ElNarez posted:

yeah but Nicolas Sarkozy never ran on the story of "La République Exemplaire"
The thing is everyone with a dose of sense knew that Jupiter would end up employing opportunistic people from the PS and the UMP and the "renewal" thing was a purely ageist political marketing move. It's hardly a surprise that the younger generations are as hosed up as their elder from the same milieu. Plus ça change, plus le changement, c'est maintenant. Also opportunistic people tend not to be the most moral kind of persons.

ElNarez posted:

there's a point where people will notice that poo poo, and it will go very sour, very fast
Yes, see that's the point were i tend to get super sad and depressive and say horrible thing about people, but i think i will spare everyone my jaded opinion. But yeah you are right it could end up pretty pretty bad.

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Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.
Like a virus, Macronism seeks to infect a new host.

quote:

"One year ago France was like the UK and the US, looking for hope because it was feeling in despair. I think today in Britain you can look at the future with hope and I think Renew is a movement you can embrace"

"Four months ago I was an economist working for a financial company in Paris, now I am a member of the French parliament. If this happened in France it can happen in Britain too," said MP de Monchalin.

lmao

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