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Tiberius Christ posted:lol at the thought that american psychology is so fragile and weak that advertisements on facebook was enough the psyop the whole country, in which case let the russians take over they are far superior to us its worse than that, from the sounds of this article the us govt was probably going to topple sometime anyway but the russians gave it too big a shove and now they have to deal with a weathervane with nukes
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Conch Shell Corp posted:oh no a foreign government spent money influencing american democracy Not to mention the Saudi government too.
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Tiberius Christ posted:lol at the thought that american psychology is so fragile and weak that advertisements on facebook was enough the psyop the whole country, in which case let the russians take over they are far superior to us Like, confirmation bias is a thing though? And it was pretty clear they were just trying to stir the poo poo. If you're already leaning towards the idea that Clinton wanted to do Thing, and then you see a bunch of social media stuff with headlines about "Clinton is Gonna Do the Thing!" then it reinforces your opinion - regardless of whether it's true. Maybe if Clinton wasn't an exceptionally lovely candidate, we could instead laugh about how the Ruskies are dumb, but the consensus seems to be "there was an impact on the election caused by waves of bot spam linked to Russia" PS: meddling in other countries is real lovely. It's not ok when America does it either
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your friend a dog posted:"the american people couldnt help it, the russian ads were just too much for them. they're not capable of making decisions on their own" yeah
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Nov 22, 2017 06:59
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The internet makes you stupid, I thought we went over this!
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Nov 22, 2017 07:00
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Conch Shell Corp posted:oh no a foreign government spent money influencing american democracy Your right, leftists are famous for being fine with everything Israel does, including what they do to Palestinians
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Nov 22, 2017 07:08
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have we gone from, "the russia narrative is falling apart" to "oh no well its not so bad guys lol" in the span of a few pages
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Waffle House posted:have we gone from, "the russia narrative is falling apart" to "oh no well its not so bad guys lol" in the span of a few pages It goes back and forth
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Have Blue posted:aipac is also bad hth please show me where the media and dnc cared at all about aipac or saudi edit: fixed quote Conch Shell Corp has issued a correction as of 07:21 on Nov 22, 2017 |
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Nov 22, 2017 07:18
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Conch Shell Corp posted:please show me where the media and dnc cared at all about aipac or saudi The DNC and media are leftists now? Lmfao
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Nov 22, 2017 07:20
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Lemming posted:The DNC and media are leftists now? Lmfao quoted the wrong post meant this one sorry bud Have Blue posted:aipac is also bad hth
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Nov 22, 2017 07:21
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Conch Shell Corp posted:please show me where the media and dnc cared at all about aipac or saudi iunno about the DNC but the media has been reporting on aipac's influence on the govt for quite a while, especially during Obama's Iran deal.
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Nov 22, 2017 07:32
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2015/09/03/how-aipac-lost-the-iran-deal-fight/ https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/09/01/friends-israel http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/07/w...%20Committee%20(AIPAC)
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Have Blue posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2015/09/03/how-aipac-lost-the-iran-deal-fight/ ok 3 articles dating back 5 years thanks for proving my point?
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Nov 22, 2017 07:41
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Lemming posted:It goes back and forth     I think the Moscow one stopped posting, but doing whois queries on domains reblogged in groups like this one on facebook yields some funny owner-geo results when they forget to use a private registrar.
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Nov 22, 2017 07:41
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They're just really good at trolling
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Nov 22, 2017 07:43
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scary foreigners are influencing the US elections! -smarmy british 'comedian' on late night show
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Nov 22, 2017 07:44
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Waffle House posted:Like Russians? Everyone knows there's special DNS measures in place to keep the Russians from escaping. It's like North Korea, but with the internet. Sounds like we need a wall. An internet wall.
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Nov 22, 2017 07:45
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Sounds like we need a wall. An internet wall. Please don't support the dismantling of net neutrality
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Skypie posted:Please don't support the dismantling of net neutrality Don't blame me. Blame the Russians. They're the ones who made it necessary.
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Nov 22, 2017 07:47
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Don't blame me. Blame the Russians. They're the ones who made it necessary. delet this
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Nov 22, 2017 07:48
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Conch Shell Corp posted:ok 3 articles dating back 5 years thanks for proving my point? Did you seriously expect me to exhaustively google every mention of aipac? I just provided a few off the cuff examples. You can google things yourself too y'know.
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This was an ad I saw on FB earlier in the week. Is it Russian? Is this the sophistication we're dealing with? LOL http://istorybucket.com/kid-donates-3-to-president-trump-and-look-what-he-receives-after-nine-months/
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Nov 22, 2017 07:50
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Conch Shell Corp posted:scary foreigners are influencing the US elections! -smarmy british 'comedian' on late night show The part people care about is the one where the guy who won had people working with the ones who were committing crimes Or do you think Watergate was similarly overblown Did you forget that hacking is illegal
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Nov 22, 2017 08:00
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Sounds like we need a wall. An internet wall. All Nations, each with their own Great Firewalls.
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Nov 22, 2017 08:01
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Lemming posted:The part people care about is the one where the guy who won had people working with the ones who were committing crimes but the democrats did a crime therefore our country belongs to putin now, or whoever is white and hates gays enough
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Nov 22, 2017 08:02
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Have Blue posted:Did you seriously expect me to exhaustively google every mention of aipac? I just provided a few off the cuff examples. You can google things yourself too y'know. the point is that no one in the last year gives an absolute gently caress about any interference except the "scary russian haxxor" narrative which just proves its disingenuous as gently caress.
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Nov 22, 2017 08:05
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Conch Shell Corp posted:the point is that no one in the last year gives an absolute gently caress about any interference except the "scary russian haxxor" narrative which just proves its disingenuous as gently caress. The russian interference was the most direct and blatant though? It makes sense that it would dominate coverage.
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Nov 22, 2017 08:08
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Also the method in which it was carried out was incredibly improper.
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Conch Shell Corp posted:the point is that no one in the last year gives an absolute gently caress about any interference except the "scary russian haxxor" narrative which just proves its disingenuous as gently caress. Actually the last time a president had worked with criminals to attack a political adversary and tried to cover it up people cared very much
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Conch Shell Corp posted:the point is that no one in the last year gives an absolute gently caress about any interference except the "scary russian haxxor" narrative which just proves its disingenuous as gently caress. except for the LF regulars who got obsessed with killing hope etc
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Russia spends the price of a single house on internet advertising, USA collapses into near civil war and endless excuse making. Hmmm.  If I was trying to sell a Thing on the internet I'd be desperately trying to recruit whoever made those ads because they are basically the best marketing genius of all time.
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Have Blue posted:The russian interference was the most direct and blatant though? It makes sense that it would dominate coverage. i can't tell if you're trolling or if this is a genuine position based on years of partisan bickering
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new phone who dis posted:Yeah, Trump and Romney got similar numbers of votes. It was 100% a Dem collapse due to hubris. Some of that hubris manifested in the more grating woke poo poo, but it was primarily the Clinton hubris that sealed the deal. That’s what I mean about Her Turn and Right Side of History being expressions of the same attitude. I can’t put my finger on it, but it’s almost like they believe in their own inevitability so much that they’re insulted when asked to make their case.
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Frosted Flake posted:That’s what I mean about Her Turn and Right Side of History being expressions of the same attitude. I can’t put my finger on it, but it’s almost like they believe in their own inevitability so much that they’re insulted when asked to make their case. They're angry you can't see they are correct instantly because they are the righteous followers of the Chosen One. Basically it's religious fervor.
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new phone who dis posted:Yeah, Trump and Romney got similar numbers of votes. It was 100% a Dem collapse due to hubris. Some of that hubris manifested in the more grating woke poo poo, but it was primarily the Clinton hubris that sealed the deal. Nah it turns out Trump got a few million more because Republicans got real hard about how racist he is lmao (the initial results are old)
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Conch Shell Corp posted:i can't tell if you're trolling or if this is a genuine position based on years of partisan bickering lol "partisan bickering". I'm not a dem and would never vote for Hillary. If you care to look at the facts and Russia's extensive history of election meddling it becomes incredibly obvious that they were active in the us during the 2016 general.
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Have Blue posted:lol "partisan bickering". I'm not a dem and would never vote for Hillary. If you care to look at the facts and Russia's extensive history of election meddling it becomes incredibly obvious that they were active in the us during the 2016 general. and so? they're a rival power to the united states. they were probably active in 2012 2008 2004 2000 1996 1992 etc.
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Conch Shell Corp posted:and so? they're a rival power to the united states. they were probably active in 2012 2008 2004 2000 1996 1992 etc. and this time they went the extra step with targeted ad buys and contact with the Trump campaign, hence the whole big hullabaloo.
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