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I never said it had to be winkeyless. I was referring to the keyboards at http://winkeyless.kr What I want is a TKL with a linear, heavier than MX Red Switch, and RGB/Underglow is a plus but not a requirement. The K65 is literally the switches i'm trying to get away from, if i wanted to stay on MX Reds, I'd just not buy anything. I'd rather just buy something correct than spend extra time and money on swapping parts. As for the WASD TKL, Clears are tactile, so that's out. Deviant fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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LochNessMonster posted:I want an ergodox... I'm looking 200+ aren't I? yup you just missed the last massdrop ergodix infinity run so you'll have to wait a bit for the next one. not sure when it'll be available again, but i think they run it 2-3 times a year. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/infinity-ergodox the infinity version has neat lcds showing the layer level you're in or other stuff. you have a few other options (the main alternative is the ez version, but you can find a bunch of non-branded ones on most ecomm sites), but assembled you're pretty much stuck above $200. you also have to take the hilariously nonstandard caps into account if you want to join group buys, which either straight up opts you out or will tack on $50+. i like the infinity + granite combo but after taking into account all the bits and pieces i was looking at almost $500, which lol no. if you're down to build it yourself, you could probably swing it for about a hundred bucks + your time. if you don't have the tools, you're back in the $200+ neighborhood, but as a hobby project it's much more interesting than yet another "make light blink with an arduino" thing. there's also the added value and bragging rights of being able to say you built it yourself, but that's me. https://www.ergodox.io/ teethgrinder posted:May as well share this silly thing here 
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Deviant posted:I never said it had to be winkeyless. I was referring to the keyboards at http://winkeyless.kr oops, my bad mx blacks are going to be a bitch to find though, so the rest of my post still applies. springs are cheap, but it's labor intensive.
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I think I'm just gonna buy the Ducky One TKL in black, with MX blacks and swap the keycaps for white vortex translucent PBT for aesthetics unless something better jumps out at me. https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1330 on https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2412
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surebet posted:if it suits your needs, go for it! Yeah, but like any fancy purchase, I can't shake the feeling that there's something better out there. I do like the floating plate design of Winkeyless.KR's work, but it's a *lot* of money for something I *still* have to assemble.
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Got my Maxkeys SA Ashen set today, solid stuff. It's my first full SA set but compared to some SP keys I have it's very comparable.
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Deviant posted:Yeah, but like any fancy purchase, I can't shake the feeling that there's something better out there. I do like the floating plate design of Winkeyless.KR's work, but it's a *lot* of money for something I *still* have to assemble. i know that annoying feeling! regarding assembly, as long as it's just screwing stuff together it's not too bad, i get nervous when i have to solder stuff though because i'm terrible at it
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teethgrinder posted:May as well share this silly thing here I like these little macro boards, did you build or buy this one?
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Horizontal Tree posted:I like these little macro boards, did you build or buy this one? either or, it's basically a switch tester frame with a controller added on to make it functional that exact one (minus the caps) is up on massdrop at the moment: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/max-falcon-8-programmable-macropad-kit if you think you'd really use a macropad, have a look at the elgato stream deck:  https://www.elgato.com/en/gaming/stream-deck basically a reboot of the stuff art lebedev put out a decade ago but at a not insane price
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Horizontal Tree posted:I like these little macro boards, did you build or buy this one? The software for programming it is dreadful though. The macro you want better save you a lot of time/tedium to be worth it. Assigning single actions like media controls is more reasonable.
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Deviant posted:Yeah, but like any fancy purchase, I can't shake the feeling that there's something better out there. I do like the floating plate design of Winkeyless.KR's work, but it's a *lot* of money for something I *still* have to assemble. Can you wait until December or possibly January next year? The overly hyped K-type keyboard from Input Club is still up on Massdrop. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-input-club-k-type-mechanical-keyboard (full disclosure, I caved in and joined the drop) Edit: Actually, the switch choices might not work for you. Constellation I fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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LochNessMonster posted:Awesome write up surebet. I hope they'll do an calm depths or modern selectric clone soon. I want modern selectric so loving bad.
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surebet posted:yup Unfortunately I'm not comfortable soldering enough to wire a board myself. I've only done it twice befor and don't care to mess up a 100-200 bucks pcb. I'd rather learn on a cheaper project. Even if I were I've got 2-3 other projects lined up first, but I'm pretty sure I'm build my own mk somewhere in the future.
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LochNessMonster posted:Unfortunately I'm not comfortable soldering enough to wire a board myself. I've only done it twice befor and don't care to mess up a 100-200 bucks pcb. I'd rather learn on a cheaper project. more like a $25 pair of pcbs: http://shop.profetkeyboards.com/product/ergodox-pcbs check out the build process: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBgJd5LCeXxmNQJnwcQyFuCwz3gV_oShV (not my content, dude didn't have a playlist so i made one. i legit think it's criminal that such good content only has ~60 views) i totes get where you're coming from though, and spending a bit more to avoid the headache if it's not your thing is the correct way to do this sign up for notifications on massdrop, you should be able to purchase 2017q3 with a 2017q4/2018q1 delivery ($200, but blank caps added ~$40 iirc, ask around) so you'd have plenty of time to look into caps and peripherals
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HEY NONG MAN posted:I want modern selectric so loving bad.  i've actually been checking my local classifieds for the past year for an original selectric, their design is so god damned good that just as a non-functional piece i'd consider it  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gte1ruVW7Bo as a fan of loud typing things, as a typography & design nerd, and as someone who has an unhealthy obsession with good caps, the original selectrics check so many boxes for me it's not even funny i've had this idea for a business card that involves crash printed thick vellum cardstock and one of these days i really should try to get it done the modern selectric set obviously isn't exactly quite the same (the subtly rounded caps on the original have that 1960s industrial design flair you just don't find anymore for example) but they did a pretty good job capturing the essence of the original and i'd jump on a rerun of the set in a heartbeat
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Not really keycap related, more to do with the output side of the Selectric, I just want someone to do a good digital revival of the Classified News typeface they used.
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I've had a Microsoft Sidewinder x4 for about 4 years, maybe less. Is this a decent keyboard, or are there better out there? I've aced my uni exams and have nabbed myself a part time job, so I feel like a reward is in order, and a new keyboard would be a nice addition. If the keyboard I have is fine compared to the new ones that have released since I bought it, I'll be fine staying with it. But if there's a keyboard that has come out in the past few years that blows all competition out the water, feel free to let me know.
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Constellation I posted:Can you wait until December or possibly January next year? The overly hyped K-type keyboard from Input Club is still up on Massdrop. hell yes. i bought the "idea" of a keyboard and may never see the physical product and I don't care.
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i feel like quoting myself is quick become my gimmick in this threadsurebet posted:not quite sure how it took canada post a weeks to move a box from mississauga to near montreal, and still gently caress it up enough to 1) not even try to deliver, 2) not leave a pick up card, 3) stage the package 2 towns over despite the perfectly fine post office less than a kilometer from my home, but hey, keyboard is here!
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Necronomoticon posted:hell yes. i bought the "idea" of a keyboard and may never see the physical product and I don't care. the star citizen of keyboards! Loopoo posted:I've had a Microsoft Sidewinder x4 for about 4 years, maybe less. Is this a decent keyboard, or are there better out there? I've aced my uni exams and have nabbed myself a part time job, so I feel like a reward is in order, and a new keyboard would be a nice addition. what you have is a perfectly serviceable low-end keyboard; if it suits your needs, there's no point trying to convince you to pony up a bunch of cash for something else. if you want to treat yourself, we could whip up a few options for you to consider, but first is there something you wish your board did or maybe something you're not happy about it? also what kind of money would you be spending? a good mid-range enthusiast keeb will be in the $100 neighborhood.
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surebet posted:if you want to treat yourself, we could whip up a few options for you to consider, but first is there something you wish your board did or maybe something you're not happy about it? I wouldn't mind a board with nice LED lighting behind the keys. I love the tactile feel of the keys, it's satisfying. I also like the macro buttons to the left of the keyboard, though I'll admit I have rarely ever used them. I've only ever made use of one to record gameplay clips, instead of the current keybinding which is Alt+F10. So pretty much a mechanical keyboard, with LED backlighting, that doesn't go overboard with the amount of macro buttons / profile options it has. I'm willing to spend up to $150 on a new keeb. I feel like I've given this one a good run for it's money. Thanks for taking the time to reply with that and offer to help, I appreciate it.
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I feel sad, guys. As much as people LOVE to poo poo on the Corsair keyboards because of it's non-standard bottom row, it's actually a culmination of all the things I was looking for in my next mechanical daily driver: 1. Floating / Low profile 2. Metal-ish build 3. RGB 4. Numpad (work from home a lot and my job needs it) 5. Volume wheel Absolutely none of the enthusiast keyboards have all of these so I caved in and got a Corsair K70 Lux RGB. Shiny keycaps and exceptionally lovely font? No problem, I went ahead and ordered the new Vortex translucent PBT keycaps and it even has all the non-standard keys packed in. It's really too bad that Corsair writes really lovely firmware and software for their keyboards. It turns out that the K70 Lux has a pretty bad USB conflict with my mobo's USB controller. Anything that polls USB devices straight up crashes when the issue happens. (usually happens whenever you plug or unplug another USB peripheral) There's also multiple reports out there so it isn't just me. Everything points to the keyboard as completely disconnecting it resolves all issues. I've also tried every workaround available to prevent it from happening, but nothing works. Corsair is investigating and hopefully puts out a firmware update in the future since this issue is similar to what happened to their older models that was fixed via firmware. The alternative is setting the keyboard's polling rate back to the BIOS setting whenever it happens or just straight up unplug and re-plug the keyboard. It's not really something I want to deal with so I returned the keyboard today and going back to my G710+. I might pick it up again if Corsair actually develops a firmware fix. Another alternative is getting a separate but compatible internal PCI-E USB controller, but Corsair can't even pinpoint which chipsets are incompatible so I'm not gonna bother. I also hate having to justify the purchase every time it comes up but, yeah: Price - People say the gamer-y keyboards are overpriced, and yeah I agree if you live in the US. However, if you're in Canada, the keyboards from gaming companies with the same featureset are actually priced less than the more recommended options. The more recommended options like Ducky, WASD, Filco, iKBC etc. can cost quite a bit more due to having to get it from the US/China and the lovely Canadian peso + customs/brokerage fees. Although Ducky and CoolerMaster boards are more available in Canada and can be found for around the same or cheaper, but again, doesn't fulfill my requirements. Volume wheel - It's just something that I've always had considering my old daily driver keyboards from years past were that Dell keyboard with the volume wheel, the lovely Saitek Eclipse with the volume wheel, Logitech G115 with the volume wheel and finally the Logitech G710+ with the volume wheel. It's something that I'll have to give up eventually and I'll probably have to wean myself off of it when I'll force myself to use the K-Type as my daily driver when it gets here next year. It kinda sucks since I really did enjoy using the K70 and it had all the things I actually wanted. It's not a total loss since I still have the G710+, a K-Type coming in 6 months and an Anne Pro coming to gently caress around with for an HTPC. Though I'm not sure what I'm going to do with these Vortex PBT keycaps now, so I might just put them on the G710+ and call it a day.
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poster above me managed to both dump an impressive amount of content faster than me and suggested a few good options. i have to admit this is the first time i hear about the issue he's having, so i wouldn't discount the k70 outright, but it cools me off from recommending it.
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Is the K70 a solid purchase option then? The one part that I found confusing were the different coloured keys, red, blue and brown. I don't fully understand what the difference between them is.
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surebet posted:"gaming" is kinda vague, so you'll have to narrow it down a bit for us.
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Loopoo posted:Is the K70 a solid purchase option then? The one part that I found confusing were the different coloured keys, red, blue and brown. I don't fully understand what the difference between them is. Those are the different switch types that surebet mentioned. As for the K70, it honestly would've been the perfect keyboard for me. I can only recommend it under the following: 1. You are not experiencing the USB controller issues I was having. 2. You're fully aware that getting replacement keycaps for it is going to be quite a pain in the rear end due to the non-standard bottom row (CTRL, Win key and spacebar are all non-standard) As for the issue I'm having, it's been brought up a couple of times since the keyboard's been out in a number of forums. I've tried all workarounds (literally tried everything I've come across and can think of) and I've concluded that nothing would really help other than trying other USB controllers or motherboards (no chance in hell) and seeing which ones won't have this issue. If anyone's interested: http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167509 http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168442 http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?p=899462 http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165416&highlight=steam https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/5wbzbj/steam_freezes_when_i_plug_in_any_usb_device/ So yeah, I suggest going with a retailer you can easily do returns with, and once you get it, test and see if you have the same issues. If you're not that picky, the Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro and Ducky Shine keyboards have a lot less complaints. Constellation I fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Jun 11, 2017 |
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reference ansi: k70:   bottom row is indeed all kinds of fucky, although for my money the only option for caps replacement on a full rgb board are translucent ones: http://www.maxkeyboard.com/max-104-105-87-88-key-cherry-mx-black-translucent-keycap-set.html (they have a k70 compatible, 6.5u spacebar version of the kit) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz6y7DhcMUM you can find a k70 in big box electronics stores, might make sense to purchase through one of those after doing a price match with the lowest online price. you might pay a bit more or have to eat taxes, but a longer, more tolerant return window might make sense here.
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The replacement USB board for my CODE arrived, but instead of the promised case opening tool, they sent a key puller with it. Not sure I have a use for yet another of those! Does anyone know the best/easiest way to get into a WASD keyboard (TKL) without the tool? Am I likely to break the clips if I try without one?
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Have a WASD TKL with Greens awaiting me at the post office. I think I'm going to love it, but hope it isn't too annoying to people around me hah.
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chippy posted:The replacement USB board for my CODE arrived, but instead of the promised case opening tool, they sent a key puller with it. Not sure I have a use for yet another of those! first step would be to reach out to wasd and inform them they hosed up. they have decent support so they might send the tool. otherwise, a prying tool is just a stiff plastic shim; you could use pretty much anything like a screwdriver but it's easier to nick the plastic case, so it's not ideal. ghetto solution: use a plastic credit/debit card or a thick guitar pick cheap solution: call your local computer or car parts stores to see if they have something like this proper solution: if you like fixing your own stuff, i highly recommend getting this very extensive kit, or at least this, this and a couple of these you might be able to find a cheaper source for these tools, but i can personally vouch that they're of good quality (versus mystery china quality on ebay) and sales support an amazingly good website. that driver kit especially is super useful and it covers a wide array of weird and hard to find bits this album has a nice view of the tab positioning on a full sizer: http://imgur.com/gallery/9vf9m tab placement should be similar on the tkl, though you should slowly probe the case to find resistance-to-separation points. start with a top/bottom middle one to get a feel for the resistance then work your way around. full size has 4 bottom, 5 top & 2 on each side, but i'm not 100% on what a tkl has. a single snapped tab isn't ideal, but it's not the end of the world either. take your time and you should be just fine!
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teethgrinder posted:Have a WASD TKL with Greens awaiting me at the post office. I think I'm going to love it, but hope it isn't too annoying to people around me hah. the good news is that it's sturdy enough to use as an improvised weapon when your colleagues are inevitably going to rise up and try to murder you
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teethgrinder posted:Have a WASD TKL with Greens awaiting me at the post office. I think I'm going to love it, but hope it isn't too annoying to people around me hah.
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surebet posted:first step would be to reach out to wasd and inform them they hosed up. they have decent support so they might send the tool. Yep, that was my first step. Unfortunately I'm in the UK so once they get back to me it still means waiting another week or so for the tool to arrive. Thanks for the tips, I'll probably try and sort something out myself rather than waiting as I want my keyboard back!
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surebet posted:the good news is that it's sturdy enough to use as an improvised weapon when your colleagues are inevitably going to rise up and try to murder you I have greens on a numpad and my macropad. Obviously it's not the same as regular typing ... but they generally sound less annoying than blues to me. The blues sound much "sharper".
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Cherry MX blue / o-ring supremacy for clicks without coworker murder. Takes the edge off, just like breakfast's second glass of Bourbon.
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Do the o-rings actually do anything for the activation click? I thought they were to prevent the bottoming-out clack. Sidenote post office employee refused to give me my package without proof that I work at this address  ... guess he gets to see my pay cheque. (Annoying because just proving my identity has always been fine before.)There's only one other person with my name in the world lol. teethgrinder fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Eric the Mauve posted:Definitely go with blue switches at work, announce your presence with loving authority. Blue switches are for weaklings. Real keyboard warriors use Greens. I would seriously murder someone in get my RGB Poker with greens.
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