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You guys love harsh sentences for people you hate. You don't love justice, you love vengeance. What do you think would be fair? Remember, all he did was refuse to talk to Congress. He didn't steal your Magic cards.
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I'll assume they arent just suing him again because he doesnt have any money left. https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1789061273289646302 Also, I've never heard Enjoin before. "prohibit someone from performing (a particular action) by issuing an injunction."
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May 10, 2024 23:39
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At this point I'm not sure Rudy is mentally capable of refraining from any 2020 conspiracy talk in general. He's like a sovereign citizen looking for a cop to yell at.
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May 10, 2024 23:44
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Last night's Daily Show interview was very annoying. John Della Volpe and Jon Stewart going back and forth on why Gen Z feels so disaffected by today's political landscape, and whether or not the challenges that generation faces are unique. I'm sitting here like guys I know that you know the answers to this. It's hypercapitalism working exactly as intended, you know that because they tell you at every possible opportunity (which they admitted), and the big fuckin' mystery as to how to make them feel good about politics is one they answered in the interview- maybe perhaps politicians could consider policies that make a real, immediate positive change in their lives. Like how politics in a sane society functions. Of course that would steer too close to the systemic change required under MLK's idea of economic racial equality and by God that's the last thing we can do in this country.
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May 11, 2024 01:25
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Oh Rudy. https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1789091426162118966?s=46&t=BHs6Pl38GJXGN2Y4xeriNA
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May 11, 2024 01:47
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Jesus III posted:You guys love harsh sentences for people you hate. You don't love justice, you love vengeance. Failing to appear when summoned is impeding the pursuit of justice at the national level. It is putting yourself above the structures and processes created in order to ensure that governance of the nation is kept to a high standard, and threats to that are smothered. He knew the risks, he was warned many times, he almost literally asked for this.
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May 11, 2024 01:49
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Jesus III posted:You guys love harsh sentences for people you hate. You don't love justice, you love vengeance. lol
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May 11, 2024 01:50
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...! posted:lol yeah, this poster put it better
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May 11, 2024 01:53
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"All he did" was defy a Congressional subpoena and obstruct an important investigation. No biggie. Jesus loving Christ, what a take. 
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May 11, 2024 01:54
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Jesus III posted:You guys love harsh sentences for people you hate. You don't love justice, you love vengeance. Steve Bannon, notoriously misunderstood victim who just wants to be left alone.
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May 11, 2024 02:18
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...! posted:"All he did" was defy a Congressional subpoena and obstruct an important investigation. No biggie. So how long? None of you fascists going to answer?
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May 11, 2024 03:11
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https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm...is%20unlimited. He got 2/3 of the max as a first time offender.
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Jesus III posted:So how long? None of you fascists going to answer? the same amount of time you will shut up for not long enough
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May 11, 2024 03:39
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We got a live one.
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May 11, 2024 03:41
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OgNar posted:I'll assume they arent just suing him again because he doesnt have any money left. You can't create an injunction without enjoining something, any more than you can create a conjunction without conjoining something.
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May 11, 2024 03:45
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Jesus III posted:https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm...is%20unlimited. Look just because somebody has been constantly doing his best to overthrow America's democratic institutions for the better part of a decade, indirectly leading to a number of fatalities through violent "counter-protests" and insurrections, doesn't mean he should receive maximum first time offender penalties. Let's discount it by a third or so, to leave headroom for the really serious contempt offenders.
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May 11, 2024 03:50
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Jesus III posted:So how long? None of you fascists going to answer? If expressing disappointment that a founding member of a major alt-right news and opinion website, who also served as Trump's chief political strategist, defied a Congressional hearing to appear at his hearing and was in contempt of Congress for being a collaborator in Trump's attempt to overturn an election he lost fair and square, makes me a fascist because he has to serve four months of a prison sentence that has a maximum of six while people get locked up away for far far less and for longer periods, then please enlighten me why four months imprisonment and a two hundred fifty thousand dollar fine is an appropriate sentence and of what change it will bring. Star Man fucked around with this message at 03:54 on May 11, 2024 |
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He wasn't convicted of any of those things. Sounds pretty fascist to consider non-imdicted crimes in his sentencing.
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Star Man posted:If expressing disappointment that a founding member of a major alt-right news and opinion website, who also served as Trump's chief political strategist, defied a Congressional hearing to appear at his hearing and was in contempt of Congress for being a collaborator in Trump's attempt to overturn an election he lost fair and square, makes me a fascist because he has to serve four months of a prison sentence that has a maximum of six while people get locked up away for far far less and for longer periods, then please enlighten me what four months in some white collar prison is going to affect any change. Why is this supposed to affect any change at all? You want vengeance that the American just system won't give you. Perhaps try some South American countries.
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May 11, 2024 03:53
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I would admittedly like Bannon imprisoned for far longer than this, but reasonably I think the state having the power to imprison people for long periods of time without proving beyond a reasonable doubt that they committed a crime which merits that sentence... is probably not great. Just like I think some motherfuckers definitely deserve to die for committing certain crimes, and yet I'm 100% against the death penalty. It shouldn't be an option just because I would really like it applied in some cases. Criticize the state for not going after a more serious crime that would have netted a longer sentence if you must, but in this specific case (not the totality of Bannon's life) I feel like the administration of justice was reasonable.
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May 11, 2024 04:05
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Jesus III posted:He wasn't convicted of any of those things. Sounds pretty fascist to consider non-imdicted crimes in his sentencing. No no, you're supposed to use "woke" to describe "things I don't like", not "fascist". You look like an idiot either way, but you'd be a less-specific idiot.
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He missed the memo and now looks like a jackass. Get with the times.
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Weatherman posted:No no, you're supposed to use "woke" to describe "things I don't like", not "fascist". You look like an idiot either way, but you'd be a less-specific idiot. Haha, you think I'm conservative because I don't agree with your fascism. Freepers calling out RINOs.
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Jesus III posted:Haha, you think I'm conservative because I don't agree with your fascism. Freepers calling out RINOs. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.“ Bannon’s an ingroup and you are arguing that he need not be bound by the law. Pretty conservative. The judge who issued the sentence wrote a couple of dozen pages based on the law and argument from both Bannon’s attorneys and the prosecutors. It justifies exactly why Bannon received the sentence he did. Bannon then appealed that and argued it again to the appeals court and they refused his justifications. Sounds like your opinion is that the well established and very clearly described process that everyone else is subject to is, in this case, grossly unfair. Fine, that’s your opinion and you are free to agitate for reduced sentences but don’t position yourself like some kind of holier than thou evangelical to all us heathen non believers when you haven’t even attempted to address the copious record and are just whining on internet.
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Good reposts from Aaron Rupar today. 4 years ago may 2020 Trump declares victory over Covid. https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1259945696616165377 Also, Obamagate. Even though he thinks he should be immune from any/all prosecution, Obama should have been prosecuted for a crime he would not specify. "You know what the crime is" https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1259954909467869184
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Jesus III posted:So how long? None of you fascists going to answer? The max. Hot enough take for you, dumbass?
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May 11, 2024 21:08
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Jesus, of all people, coming in here to defend Bannon
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Jesus III posted:Why is this supposed to affect any change at all? You want vengeance that the American just system won't give you. did you know that it's possible for laws to be insufficient? in fact, just because something is legal doesn't mean it's morally correct! things like slavery and torture and even murder are legal in many cases. is it fascist to think that those things are wrong even if they're legal? also, which south american countries would you recommend? don't be vague, please provide specific examples.
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OgNar posted:Good reposts from Aaron Rupar today. Many people are saying they all know what the crime is
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It would have been rude, and indeed superfluous, to state the actual crime in question.
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MrMojok posted:Jesus, of all people, coming in here to defend Bannon Sequels always seem to have wildly diminishing returns
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Trump rally today at an amusement park at the beach specifically for news clips like this that can claim that 30,000 people were there to see him. And not the beach or the amusement park on a nice saturday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YarUS0_d4zM https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1789431010209182195
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OgNar posted:Trump rally today at an amusement park at the beach specifically for news clips like this that can claim that 30,000 people were there to see him. the man is beyond parody
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Finally understood that Trump clip. Seems Roger Corman died, a Producer/Director of like 500 movies but played the FBI director in Silence of the Lambs. Trumps dementia transmuted that to him being Anthony Hopkins.
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OgNar posted:Finally understood that Trump clip. It’s like a real life, “The emperor has no clothes” except with dementia.
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OgNar posted:Seems Roger Corman died, a Producer/Director of like 500 movies but played the FBI director in Silence of the Lambs. I hate that this is how I found that out.  RIP, you trash genius.
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OgNar posted:Trump rally today at an amusement park at the beach specifically for news clips like this that can claim that 30,000 people were there to see him. The gently caress is he even talking about? I mean even by his standards? Wait...he was going for a Roger Corman reference?
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I think his intention was to suggest that immigration is allowing serial killers and anti social types into our white country. What he literally said is that he admires lecter. Bringing up the "eating that guys brain while he's still alive" scene is probably an adrenochrome dog whistle, allowing the fascist audience to imagine that Biden is undermining "border security" to help the (((adrenochrome junkies))) get their fix. And the law of projection suggests that Trump has himself tasted human flesh, and thinks that's so cool he wants to brag about it but he understands that it must be kept secret. Like when he rapes porn stars. What nobody knows is that Trump's time traveling ancestor ate Biden's cannibalized ancestor.
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"People wanting Steve Bannon to go to jail for his many crimes is fascism" is a hell of a take
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Froghammer posted:"People wanting Steve Bannon to go to jail for his many crimes is fascism" is a hell of a take Yeah it's good that nobody here made that take because that would suck.
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