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astr0man posted:Also the people he blew up were all Imperials not peaceful Alderaanians so that's another reason he gets a free pass I feel this treading dangerously close to, "What about civilians on the Death Star?" 
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In short, we're thankful that most of the KJA stuff will be written out utterly or changed to suit the background of the new films EU.
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Nov 30, 2013 18:31
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SeanBeansShako posted:In short, we're thankful that most of the KJA stuff will be written out utterly or changed to suit the background of the new films EU. While that's definitely a plus, I'm wondering to what extent the new EU will take away the legitimately good stuff (deleting Timothy Zhan's work with Thrawn comes to mind). That being said, if one can't develop some kind of personal canon after putting up with all the lows in Star Wars EU...
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Nov 30, 2013 18:37
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If its already written, they can't take it out of my brain. Do your worst, disney 
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Nov 30, 2013 19:35
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Conquistador posted:If its already written, they can't take it out of my brain. Do your worst, disney I mean we don't have to accept everything officially. I'll miss the retarded Jedi Prince series the most simply because Thrawn did that awesome Lets Read of it a few years back. I expect they'll cherry pick the best stuff. Hopefully. Or adapt it.
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Nov 30, 2013 19:42
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Really what I was trying to say is I don't care what Disney accepts/doesn't accept as canon. A bunch of canon is lol anyway. I just enjoy the stories that I like and will continue to do so. It isn't like the internal canon is wicked consistent anyway, it seems.
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Nov 30, 2013 21:02
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Ferrosol posted:Not just any scientist but the woman who designed the Death Star. Although he technically has the excuse that she's since lost her memory and was told the Death Star would only be used for peaceful purposes. Yes the excuse is that stupid. I'm reminded of the bit in the first Infinities comic where it skips ahead five years into the future and the Death Star's been renamed the Justice Star and Yoda kills Palpatine by hijacking it and crashing it into Coruscant (which probably killed at least a billion or so people; Coruscant's meant to have about a trillion inhabitants at any given point in the movies era, right?). quote:You also missed the Hutts building their own version of the Death Star. Which then blows up due to crappy quality control. Admittedly it's probably the best Kevin J Anderson book but that's a pretty low bar. The one scene in that book that stuck out at me when I read it was the one where Luke visits Hoth with his girlfriend (he met her when she was the disembodied consciousness of a Jedi Knight who had been dead for thirty years and resided in the computers of a lost Imperial superweapon, then she was downloaded into the body of one of his students) and gets attacked by the wampa whose arm he cut off in ESB. Anyway, Star Wars canon. All my favourite EU material is the comics set before or during the movies, so the new films probably won't affect them too much.
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Nov 30, 2013 21:27
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When that terrible book killed Crix Madine I had to reread it because I was convinced I somehow read the book wrong and missed the part where he came back to life from such a stupid thing
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Nov 30, 2013 22:14
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Conquistador posted:When that terrible book killed Crix Madine I had to reread it because I was convinced I somehow read the book wrong and missed the part where he came back to life from such a stupid thing It was such an undignified death. Staring out the window praying for rescue while an idiot Hutt fumbles with the controls on a blaster. e: can't believe I remember this, trap sprung? General Battuta fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Nov 30, 2013 |
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Nov 30, 2013 22:35
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The first time a named movie character was killed off in the EU, I believe.
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Dec 1, 2013 00:46
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We have always been at war with Kevin J Anderson
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Dec 1, 2013 01:25
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One of the many interesting behind the scenes things from the recent Essential Reader's Companion was a bit that stated that KJA wanted to kill Mon Mothma at the end of his Jedi Academy Trilogy (as a result of her being poisoned by the Imperial guy) but the idea got nixed by the higher-ups at Lucasfilm. So it seems like KJA wanted to kill a movie character from the start, but after his first choice ran aground, he tried again in Darksaber with a lesser-ranking one.
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Dec 1, 2013 02:21
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He just really doesn't like the briefing scene in ROTJ. Look at what he's done to the people in that scene.
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What annoys me about the JAT is that it contains one of the most awaited post-ROTJ payoffs (Luke bringing back the Jedi) except it's fumbled by KJA. Also, the Suncrusher is the superweapon equivalent of the stats-abusing godslaying D&D character made by that guy incapable of self-scrutiny. However, I find the Darksaber plot hilarious (super-weapon undone by shoddy workmanship, incompetent leadership and corrupt sub-contracting)*. It's easily my second favorite bit of KJA after the Illustrated Universe. That said, it's not that hard because these are the only two. *EXCEPT for that absurd Madine mission. How did that ever seem like a good ideaRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Yeah the reconstruction of the Jedi was pretty lame. It's been years since I've read those books but I just remember most of it being boring. Dorsk 81, lovely weak clone. Cyghal, lame weak healer. Tionne, weak chick with a guitar. Gantoris, powerful guy, immediately falls to dark side and turns into a burned out husk. Kyp Durron, powerful, immediately lured by darkside. I might be mis-remembering but thats how it feels anyway. The idea of an anachronistic fortress behind black holes is pretty badass though 
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astr0man posted:Also the people he blew up were all Imperials not peaceful Alderaanians so that's another reason he gets a free pass The other reason is KJA is such a bad writer it's impossible to tell if the star system was meant to just be a military academy or if it's a fully inhabited system with billions of civlians living there as well...
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Dec 1, 2013 07:54
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I think the way it is written we are supposed to believe he murdered citizens, but they're Imperial citizens. I guess the Sun Crusher is basically the Enola Gay E: Citizens in addition to all the military poo poo, of course
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Dec 1, 2013 08:01
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Streen was pretty cool, among the "new" Jedi anyway. Old dude who's just a grizzled old tibanna gas prospector who wants to be left alone with the winds.
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Didn't Darksaber also allude to the existence of Huttese pornography as well, or am I confusing it with another book?
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Metal Loaf posted:Didn't Darksaber also allude to the existence of Huttese pornography as well, or am I confusing it with another book? That was Planet of Twilight. Admiral Daala's boyfriend makes his living by filming Hutt porn. This was by Barbara Hambly, whose earlier book Children of the Jedi stated that Grand Moff Tarkin's plan for Leia was to enslave her in the Death Star's brothel.
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Righto. Back when I was reading EU books pretty regularly I didn't get reading the Callista books aside from Darksaber; I got into the EU around the time NJO was starting so, aside from a few of the preceding books, it was mostly that and the Clone Wars novels for me.
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Chairman Capone posted:Grand Moff Tarkin's plan for Leia was to enslave her in the Death Star's brothel. Wait, how did I miss this?
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api call girl posted:Wait, how did I miss this? Your brain saved you the unpleasant images of gigolo Tarkin getting his horndog freak on. Seriously, according to the EU he and Palpatine should have a million space bastards floating about doing over the top space evil by now.
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A space brothel on the Death Star is incredibly stupid. It's like having them slicing up Whaledons for whatever reason.
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My only hope for episode 7 is that it just ends up being a 2 hour long adaptation of "The Glove of Darth Vader". I'd pay good money for that poo poo. Don't act like you wouldn't 
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My fears for Episode 7 involve lots of lens flare and awkward cameos of Ford/Fisher/Hamill a la Leonard Nimoy in JJTrek. I hope instead of just completely destroying the EU they at least prune out some of the good parts and make it canon, like Thrawn or something. It's not like it's unheard of -- wasn't Coruscant an invention of the EU that George Lucas saw and was like "yeah okay, that's a good idea, I'll take that"?
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Casimir Radon posted:A space brothel on the Death Star is incredibly stupid. It's like having them slicing up Whaledons for whatever reason. 'Fully armed and operational 5 Star Brothel Breakfast And Battle Station!'
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SeanBeansShako posted:'Fully armed and operational 5 Star Brothel Breakfast And Battle Station!' A succinct description of Death Star by Michael Reaves and Steve Perry if I ever heard one.
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Locutus of Bald posted:My only hope for episode 7 is that it just ends up being a 2 hour long adaptation of "The Glove of Darth Vader". One would hope the opening crawl beings with the line, "I bid you dark greetings!"
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Metal Loaf posted:One would hope the opening crawl beings with the line, "I bid you dark greetings!" It is a dark time for the galaxy. The remnants of the Imperial administration have called for a MOFFERENCE aboard a secret research station within the depths of THE MAW. Accompanied by KYP DURRON, LUKE SKYWALKER has flown to THE CRYSTAL STAR in an attempt to foil the nascent Imperial plot, fearing rumors of a devastating SUN CRUSHER in the hands of the EMPIRE... That's right folks, it's the KJA/ 
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Crystal Star was by Vonda McIntyre, who I swear to God is actually a decent writer outside of Star Wars 
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Chairman Capone posted:That was Planet of Twilight. Admiral Daala's boyfriend makes his living by filming Hutt porn. Jesus, the higher level shops in Tiny Death Star must get weird.
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Drone posted:My fears for Episode 7 involve lots of lens flare and awkward cameos of Ford/Fisher/Hamill a la Leonard Nimoy in JJTrek. The name Coruscant was made up by Tim Zahn, but it was just giving an "actual" name to the "planet-city Imperial Center".
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General Battuta posted:Crystal Star was by Vonda McIntyre, who I swear to God is actually a decent writer outside of Star Wars
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Casimir Radon posted:Really? The Crystal Star is really the worst thing to come out of the EU until Legacy rolled around. Han's all like, gently caress you it's my vacation and whatnot. Again, not one I've read, but I remember coming across Abel G. Pena's review of it from back when starwars.com had blogs and a message board. He mentioned that he thought the characterisation of Han in the final confrontation with Waru (telling Chewie to look after his kids, then jumping in to rescue Luke and Leia) was pretty good and said the biggest disappointment was that Waru was the most interesting thing that had ever been in any EU book but
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I'm not disputing that The Crystal Star was dreadful, just pointing out that the author wrote some halfway decent SF outside of Star Wars.
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Has anyone had a chance to read or listen to Kenobi yet? It takes place during his time in exile between movies three and four.
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General Battuta posted:I'm not disputing that The Crystal Star was dreadful, just pointing out that the author wrote some halfway decent SF outside of Star Wars. Metal Loaf posted:Again, not one I've read, but I remember coming across Abel G. Pena's review of it from back when starwars.com had blogs and a message board. He mentioned that he thought the characterisation of Han in the final confrontation with Waru (telling Chewie to look after his kids, then jumping in to rescue Luke and Leia) was pretty good and said the biggest disappointment was that Waru was the most interesting thing that had ever been in any EU book but Nf3 posted:Has anyone had a chance to read or listen to Kenobi yet? It takes place during his time in exile between movies three and four.
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Metal Loaf posted:Again, not one I've read, but I remember coming across Abel G. Pena's review of it from back when starwars.com had blogs and a message board. He mentioned that he thought the characterisation of Han in the final confrontation with Waru (telling Chewie to look after his kids, then jumping in to rescue Luke and Leia) was pretty good and said the biggest disappointment was that Waru was the most interesting thing that had ever been in any EU book but "Well, I'm blogging on starwars.com so I can't take an entirely unambiguous poo poo all over this book...I guess Han dumping all his problems on Chewie and jumping into the action is pretty in-character! I just won't mention that Han is a whiny rear end in a top hat the rest of the book."
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Nf3 posted:Has anyone had a chance to read or listen to Kenobi yet? It takes place during his time in exile between movies three and four. You like frontier westerns? It's pretty decent, dumb at times but by no means bad. And don't get your hopes up, it's less about the exile and more, his first adventure on tattooine post ep. 3. I haven't seen "Shane" but I'm mostly certain it's just "Shane". Dr. Lariat fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Dec 3, 2013 |
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