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Captain McAllister posted:Alright, That's not really the worst. 380km on 50L of all city driving? I do a lot of highway travel, so the mileage in my 2006 2.5i wagon won't really compare. I'm usually seeing ~500km mixed though.
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I'm not sure what kinda moon units you guys are using, but I get 300 miles + a tank on my piece of poo poo legacy. I usually fall between 24 and 28 mpg depending on how much of my time is on the highway.
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Nov 19, 2012 22:48
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Keep in mind terrain affects things GREATLY. I was getting 5 MPG better in VA when I visited a few weekends ago than I get in western PA.
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Nov 19, 2012 23:16
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Driving in hilly SF all day nets me ~22mpg in a 98 Legacy wagon. It is heavy and old though so it's not really surprising.
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Nov 19, 2012 23:20
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I had an '02 RS which I think is similar to your TS, and those city numbers sound about right. I averaged about 25 mpg with a mix of city and highway in that car. It's funny, because I now drive an '11 WRX with 300 whp and it gets an identical 25 mpg.
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Nov 20, 2012 01:07
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RS should be worse since it has the 4.11 rear end.
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Nov 20, 2012 01:11
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I have 4.11 gears and get 27-28mpg on the highway. I think 80 is like 3700rpm.
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Nov 20, 2012 01:27
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You're right, I forgot how ridiculously short the gears were in the RS, something like 4000 rpm at 75mph in 5th. I wonder what the WRX would be like with those ratios, it barely hits 3000 rpm at 80.
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Nov 20, 2012 01:35
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blargle posted:You're right, I forgot how ridiculously short the gears were in the RS, something like 4000 rpm at 75mph in 5th. I wonder what the WRX would be like with those ratios, it barely hits 3000 rpm at 80. Think "premature ejaculation" quick. Forester XTs also have a 4.44 but their gearing is somewhat more sane. Even early JDM WRXes have a 4.11 I think and there were guys running 13s practically out of the box.
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Nov 20, 2012 02:17
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Hope you guys and gals can help or confirm that this is normal. I bought a 2012 WRX Premium a few months ago to replace my 2011 cause I am crazy. All is well but the same thing happens to the engine when it is cold as my '11. The engine seems to idle down to almost stalling when I am just about stopped with the clutch in and the car is in 1st gear. It may not matter if I am in gear or not since the clutch is in. The engine will act like it is going to stall for a split second then idle normally. This only happens when it is cold out and happens even if the engine is at running temp, just not quite as noticable. Car is not tuned yet and it 100% stock. Is this normal?
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Nov 20, 2012 03:52
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Do you have the climate control in "auto" mode? If so, this is common, something to do with the compressor clutch engaging.
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Nov 20, 2012 04:29
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blargle posted:Do you have the climate control in "auto" mode? If so, this is common, something to do with the compressor clutch engaging. That could be it, I will drive without it in "auto" mode to see if this makes a difference. Thanks!
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tayLOVE posted:I guess they pulled the exhaust & checked the bottom of the block for any seepage/leaks. I'll get more info from them tomorrow - the shop is pretty well respected around here (in portland, where everyone drives subarus) & they're charging me a fraction of the labor costs...I'm just surprised they havent seen another car behaving the same way. Okay, got the car back. They still have no clue what's going on. Here's what they've looked at so far: - o2 sensor - passenger bank avc valve - crank pulley - compression - spark plugs - fuel injectors - head gasket - block for leaks etc Roughness monitors show a big bump in roughness on cylinders 1 & 3 for ~20seconds after warm start, with corresponding air/fuel correction @ learning. What next?????? Edit: cel are p0301 p0303 p0304 - maybe it's not bank specific? tayLOVE fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Nov 20, 2012 |
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Nov 20, 2012 06:25
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Backtracked about a dozen pages and saw no mention of the BRZ in this thread -- is it a dud or something? I sure as hell bought into the whirlwind of hype surrounding its production over the past year or two. It's the first car to come along in quite a while that lines up nicely with my wants, needs, and affordability, but they simply don't exist where I live, and a test drive would merit a trip out of town.
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enojy posted:Backtracked about a dozen pages and saw no mention of the BRZ in this thread -- is it a dud or something? I sure as hell bought into the whirlwind of hype surrounding its production over the past year or two. It has its own separate thread here. Alternatively, you could just scroll a little further down the page. 
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zundfolge posted:It has its own separate thread here. Aw, crap. I figured the discussion would be in this thread. Sorry!
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Nov 20, 2012 08:39
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OK, so I ran the averages from my logbook. Usually 52L is when the light comes on, and 400km/tank. That is 7.7km/L, which Google tells me is about 18mpg. That still seems...not so great?
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Nov 20, 2012 10:09
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I'm thinking about getting a blobeye or hawkeye STI but the pricing around here still seems a bit crazy. I'm seeing them with 70-100k miles on them listed for 17-20k. This seems like a lot. How overpriced is this? One in particular has caught my eye. It's a 2005 with 91k on it, a new shortblock, "bigger turbo" (no further information yet about that) and a dyno tune for 19k. Does that seem decent or should I run away screaming because it's already been messed with? Wouldn't be my first subaru but it would be my first turbo one.
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Nov 20, 2012 15:24
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High price. Only even slightly look at cars that have full on built shortblocks and what not if they can provide receipts for all the work done from reputable shops. Last thing you want is to pick up some shade-tree mechanic's heap that he threw together just to be able to sell. If he's selling the car after spending all that money building it up, there could be a sign there.
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Nov 20, 2012 15:44
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Captain McAllister posted:OK, so I ran the averages from my logbook. Usually 52L is when the light comes on, and 400km/tank. That is 7.7km/L, which Google tells me is about 18mpg. That still seems...not so great? It might be a little low, but with purely city driving, I wouldn't expect great results from an AWD vehicle in terms of "mpg." In Northern VT, the trip computer in my LGT is reporting mid 22.5-ish mpg and I'm doing a ton of highway driving. Literally, YMMV.
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Captain McAllister posted:OK, so I ran the averages from my logbook. Usually 52L is when the light comes on, and 400km/tank. That is 7.7km/L, which Google tells me is about 18mpg. That still seems...not so great? Depends on your city/highway ratio and how leadfooted you are. I get probably 25-27mpg on the highway but because most of my driving is in traffic and city roads my total average is hovering around 22-23mpg. e:f,b. Marvin K. Mooney fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Nov 20, 2012 |
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Hey all. I'm having some problems with my 09 2.5i today. I stopped by autozone to test the battery because it seemed sluggish to start, and it was due for replacement. So I replaced it, and afterward I have a host of issues. My CEL is on, and I'm pulling codes p0600, p0700, and p1718. Also, the traction control light is stuck on, and won't turn off. Lastly, the cruise control light is flashing on and off and doesn't respond to any inputs from the controls. Ay ideas?
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Nov 20, 2012 18:22
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When your CEL is on, it disables cruise.
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Nov 20, 2012 18:24
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Ok, so I cleared the codes, all went back to normal. Bizzare.
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War Bunny posted:Ok, so I cleared the codes, all went back to normal. Bizzare. False positives after a battery removal isn't all that uncommon in many ODBII cars, usually you'll get a bogus P0000 too, which basically meants 'where yo head at?'
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I'll keep that in mind for next time. I guess the tc light sticking on is what really threw me. Never had to deal with that on any of my  vehicles.
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My fiance was involved in a little fender bender in the '02 Forester last night. It's currently sitting in the local Subaru shop getting a repair estimate (And then going directly to a 'real' body shop for what we expect will probably be at least 30% less of a second estimate, but as long as the shop is offering free estimates and it's close by it's worth getting their opinion.) From their eyeballing of it it looks to be at least $2500 (for a car we bought for $4800 a few months ago..) and out of pocket. Ugh. Front bumper, the hood, the grill, those annoying little trim pieces under the headlights, the right headlight, the core support... It'll be nice to have a year where none of our cars are destroyed someday.
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Faerunner posted:My fiance was involved in a little fender bender in the '02 Forester last night. It's currently sitting in the local Subaru shop getting a repair estimate (And then going directly to a 'real' body shop for what we expect will probably be at least 30% less of a second estimate, but as long as the shop is offering free estimates and it's close by it's worth getting their opinion.) I am parting out a green 2000 forester in maine. All that front end crap is mint. Probably of little help to you though :S
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lazer_chicken posted:I'm thinking about getting a blobeye or hawkeye STI but the pricing around here still seems a bit crazy. I'm seeing them with 70-100k miles on them listed for 17-20k. This seems like a lot. How overpriced is this? One in particular has caught my eye. It's a 2005 with 91k on it, a new shortblock, "bigger turbo" (no further information yet about that) and a dyno tune for 19k. Does that seem decent or should I run away screaming because it's already been messed with? Wouldn't be my first subaru but it would be my first turbo one. To give you an idea, I'm selling my 05 Blobeye with 71k for $18k-ish but if someone offered me $16k cash I'd take it, so $17-20k isn't too bad for a stock/mostly stock one. For a heavily modified car (new motor, new turbo) I'd expect meticulous documentation like kylej said.
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tayLOVE posted:Okay, got the car back. They still have no clue what's going on. Here's what they've looked at so far: If that doesn't solve anything you need a leak down test (usually one of the first things I do). That will indicate something like a cracked ringland or poor valve sealing.
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Eventually (next year sometime-ish) my moms 2011 Outback needs will need a timing belt. Is this a royal pain in the rear end? Any guides? I have only fiddled with BMW timing belts, so I can't imagine it being that awful....
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Good news, everyone! The Glendale Subaru dealership bottles extra-s and sells it by the quart themselves for $14.95/qt. Also: BrokenKnucklez posted:Eventually (next year sometime-ish) my moms 2011 Outback needs will need a timing belt. Doing the timing belt on a 2 year car? Do they suddenly have 30k mile intervals on timing belts? Rontalvos fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Nov 21, 2012 |
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My 06 WRX has recently started making a grinding sound as I'm starting it, could the starter be going? It doesn't do it consistently, and it only seems to happen in the morning (but not every morning) since the temp has dropped. It starts up fine when I leave work later in the day or run errands at night. The sound happens right at the tail end of the engine turning over and thats it. No other performance issues or changes so I'm thinking its just the starter. How tough/expensive are they to replace? Any other diagnostics I should do? Jamal, its been awhile, but the Koyo radiator has been fantastic since I installed it!
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Picked up my 2013 WRX on Monday ending my streak of only owning Volkswagens and Audis. First thing I noticed is that the stock radio is garbage. Then I noticed that I didn't need the radio because the rumble coming from the engine bay is the greatest noise ever. I'm planning to keep the car mostly stock throughout the warranty period and then build for 300ish awhp. For now though I'm looking at replacing the stock radio and possibly putting on the SPT exhaust. I'm trying to find anyone local to me that has the SPT exhaust because I'd like to hear it in person rather than forking over a grand for something that's going to be obnoxiously loud. Anyone have any opinions on the SPT exhaust? Also we tend to have nasty winters here so the roads are always littered with salt and gravel, will Rally Armor mudflaps be helpful in preventing paint chips on the sides of the car? My GTI had tons of white dots down the sides from salt and stones. Bonus pictures (yes, "boy racer blue" and a sedan  ) 
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Rontalvos posted:Good news, everyone! ~ 5L change for $75+ tax. 20L for $150 + tax. Just want to say if you only know one other Subaru guy, it's worth your time to split on the jug.
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Mikemo Tyson posted:Picked up my 2013 WRX on Monday ending my streak of only owning Volkswagens and Audis. First thing I noticed is that the stock radio is garbage. Then I noticed that I didn't need the radio because the rumble coming from the engine bay is the greatest noise ever. I'm planning to keep the car mostly stock throughout the warranty period and then build for 300ish awhp. For now though I'm looking at replacing the stock radio and possibly putting on the SPT exhaust. I'm trying to find anyone local to me that has the SPT exhaust because I'd like to hear it in person rather than forking over a grand for something that's going to be obnoxiously loud. Anyone have any opinions on the SPT exhaust? The radio is bad, i always found the bluetooth audio streaming to be much better though. It might be the actual fm tuner that blows.
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Iron Lung posted:My 06 WRX has recently started making a grinding sound as I'm starting it, could the starter be going? It doesn't do it consistently, and it only seems to happen in the morning (but not every morning) since the temp has dropped. It starts up fine when I leave work later in the day or run errands at night. It's the starter sticking and not immediately disengaging from the engine as it spins up. That's why it only seems to show up as it gets colder. When it's warmer (either in outside temp or from engine heat), the lubrication for the gear mechanism doesn't stick. It's apparently quite common and some people take the starter off and disassemble it to relube the parts. Otherwise, you need to replace the starter to make it go away. My '02 has been making the noise for probably about 4 years now when it's cold and and the starter is still going strong, so you aren't in any sort of immediate danger of it no longer working.
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I always figured that's just what starters did when they get cold (Subaru ones seem to be louder for whatever reason). As long as it's not the terrifying sound of trying to start an already-started engine I generally let starters do whatever they want.
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Mikemo Tyson posted:I'm planning to keep the car mostly stock throughout the warranty period and then build for 300ish awhp. For now though I'm looking at replacing the stock radio and possibly putting on the SPT exhaust. I'm trying to find anyone local to me that has the SPT exhaust because I'd like to hear it in person rather than forking over a grand for something that's going to be obnoxiously loud. Anyone have any opinions on the SPT exhaust? 300awhp on the new wrx's is literally a stage 2 build (downpipe, tune, fuel pump). So don't feel shy about making that happen. As for the SPT exhaust, I'd look at a true 3" exhaust instead so that you don't have to re-buy anything the down the road (that and they're really expensive). Jamal could likely help you out on that end.
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Faerunner posted:My fiance was involved in a little fender bender in the '02 Forester last night. First estimate is back, ~$2780 or so with tax, a week for the repairs to be done. It's going in for an estimate at a different shop today. (A non-dealer shop which can hopefully be more relaxed on "Not using parts from salvage yards" like the dealer shop)
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