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Badger of Basra posted:Beto is bad update: police unions are good What am I missing here quote:O’Rourke in public took particular exception to some of the demands from the police union in the ongoing negotiations, including its continued insistence on maintaining the wage increases which he said amounted to 8 percent each year. In an August 3, 2010 meeting, a seemingly exasperated O’Rourke went so far as to ask the city’s attorney if there was a way to eliminate the union altogether. Seems like he thinks police unions are bad https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1084596235758120960 Oh gee well I wouldn't want to SAY that someone is racist in case they get mad zoux fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Jan 14, 2019 |
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What you’re missing is that Beto’s critique wasn’t “police unions are enforcers and protectors of white supremacy and capitalism,” it was “public sector unions get too much from the public.” https://twitter.com/walkerbragman/status/1084517396046585857?s=21
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https://twitter.com/scottbraddock/status/1084217877518053376 lol Leach is the policy director for the House Freedom caucus
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Jan 14, 2019 23:34
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When you make a career out of being a crazy hardliner, somebody is always going to come along who's crazier.
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Jan 14, 2019 23:44
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https://twitter.com/DeLunaEva/status/1084961375536009217 That's like a 20 percent increase in ed funding
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Jan 15, 2019 01:25
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It is Texas, so they will figure out some way to gently caress this up, but that seems like a good thing for now?
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Jan 15, 2019 14:10
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Is that budget allocating more state funds or just assuming local property tax increases? That’ll be the most Texas way to gently caress it up.
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Jan 15, 2019 14:37
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That's new money afaik. It'll get hosed up by the Senate because they'll try to cram some voucher bullshit in there, but if they couldn't get vouchers through the house last session, it ain't happening this session. Senate budget proposal should be out soon so we'll see.
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Jan 15, 2019 15:09
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They're cutting health and human services by around 3 percent as well
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Jan 15, 2019 17:04
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TropicalCoke posted:They're cutting health and human services by around 3 percent as well Yeah, I dunno how much of that is due to federal funds changing though. e: Here's the full summary All Funds funding for HHS is up 1.5 percent despite the ~3% cut in GR so looks like federal Medicaid reimbursements are going up. Looks like we're getting about $2.8bn more from DC for HHS if you look at the federal funds page. https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1085205262875705344 She's running. https://twitter.com/JasonVillalba/status/1085210672303083520 Lol good luck champ. Villalba was the guy that got primaried by the anti-vax nutjob who then lost in the General to the democrat. zoux fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Jan 15, 2019 |
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Jan 15, 2019 17:06
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https://twitter.com/emmaplatoff/status/1085231610507739136 So half of what the House wants. I'll have to see the summary to be sure but they don't seem to be loving with allotments or weights.
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Jan 15, 2019 18:46
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https://twitter.com/cd_hooks/status/1085228870939435009 Whoo doggie. Any guesses to who the harasser was, seems like there's enough there to know. Also quote:Previous to my final meeting, when I reported the elitist and strange behavior going on in Texas, I was told by an Our Revolution staff member (who still works there today) that he had been informed, “if Texas is going to fail, let it fail”. I was alienated from the other national organizers who were working on the plan that looked a lot more like the campaign we had all worked on in 2016. Gee thanks zoux fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Jan 15, 2019 |
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Jan 15, 2019 19:41
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/cd_hooks/status/1085228870939435009 Yeah from what she said it was the guy who was a cop who got onto DSA national right? l m f a o what the gently caress.
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Jan 15, 2019 19:45
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The thing about DSA means it’s gotta be Fetonte.
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Jan 15, 2019 20:00
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What did he do, I don't really pay attention to DSA stuff (I mean besides the harassment mentioned in the article)
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Jan 15, 2019 20:14
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zoux posted:What did he do, I don't really pay attention to DSA stuff (I mean besides the harassment mentioned in the article) If it's the same guy, he was an organizer for cop unions and didn't disclose this fact when he ran for leadership in DSA until after he won. It became a Big Thing and there were a lot of bitter feelings over who defended him versus who didn't. (iirc)
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Jan 15, 2019 20:17
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Lightning Knight posted:If it's the same guy, he was an organizer for cop unions and didn't disclose this fact when he ran for leadership in DSA until after he won. It became a Big Thing and there were a lot of bitter feelings over who defended him versus who didn't. Yeah its Danny no one else meets that description: quote:A year later, the man who mistreated me in front of the committee was chased out of the national elections for the Democratic Socialists of America for misrepresenting his organizing past and threatening and harassing members of his local chapter.
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Jan 15, 2019 20:42
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He's certainly white and old
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Jan 15, 2019 20:43
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Cop adjacents ruin everything
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Jan 15, 2019 21:28
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Interesting that property tax and education reform were pretty much the only policy proposals Abbott and Patrick made in their inaugurals today. Nothing about border security or social conservative issues or all the bad stuff we hate. 
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Jan 15, 2019 23:12
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Property taxes and education are the only real threats they have on both the right and left.
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Jan 16, 2019 00:30
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zoux posted:Interesting that property tax and education reform were pretty much the only policy proposals Abbott and Patrick made in their inaugurals today. Nothing about border security or social conservative issues or all the bad stuff we hate. I'm sure whatever property tax reform they come up with is gonna be something we hate Abbott proposed limiting it to 2.5% growth per year, and no other changes 
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Jan 16, 2019 01:27
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Badger of Basra posted:I'm sure whatever property tax reform they come up with is gonna be something we hate They can't get that poo poo through the house because every county official, most of whom are GOP, show up at the hearings and bitch and bitch and then they call their Rep and bitch and bitch. Their margins are a lot thinner this year so I don't think they can get anything more punitive than they proposed last session. MY HUMBLE GUESS is that we'll see some sort of compression and maybe they lower the rollback rate by a couple of points (I think it's 8% right now?) and make rollback elections automatic. I think a hard cap on appraisal growth is a non starter.
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zoux posted:They can't get that poo poo through the house because every county official, most of whom are GOP, show up at the hearings and bitch and bitch and then they call their Rep and bitch and bitch. Their margins are a lot thinner this year so I don't think they can get anything more punitive than they proposed last session. MY HUMBLE GUESS is that we'll see some sort of compression and maybe they lower the rollback rate by a couple of points (I think it's 8% right now?) and make rollback elections automatic. I think a hard cap on appraisal growth is a non starter. 2% off property tax growth is still a lot, especially when the state keeps cutting funding for all their poo poo and pushing it down to cities and counties
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Jan 16, 2019 03:48
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You know what would be a really good source of revenue for the state: a loving progressive income tax
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Jan 16, 2019 03:55
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maybe local entities should stop helicopter dicking money and tax abatements to every business under the sun, further increasing the burden on taxpayers
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Jan 16, 2019 04:03
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zoux posted:You know what would be a really good source of revenue for the state: a loving progressive income tax Freedom tho?
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Badger of Basra posted:Freedom tho? Mmmm, true. Oh also Article VIII, § 24 of the Texas Constitution. zoux fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Jan 16, 2019 |
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Proud Christian Mom posted:maybe local entities should stop helicopter dicking money and tax abatements to every business under the sun, further increasing the burden on taxpayers was it austin or dallas that went so far as promising free adorable puppies to amazon if they brought the hq there
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Jan 16, 2019 04:07
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Dallas had something along the lines of a $1.2b blowjob promised for Amazon if they moved there.
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corn in the bible posted:was it austin or dallas that went so far as promising free adorable puppies to amazon if they brought the hq there we'll never know what the bid was lol https://communityimpact.com/austin/...thern-virginia/ quote:According to city documents, the chamber’s proposal on behalf of the Austin Metropolitan Statistical Area submitted last fall did not include an incentive package on behalf of the City of Austin.
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Jan 16, 2019 10:23
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can we all agree, across all politics and creeds, that a torta is the perfect sandwich
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Lightning Knight posted:If it's the same guy, he was an organizer for cop unions and didn't disclose this fact when he ran for leadership in DSA until after he won. It became a Big Thing and there were a lot of bitter feelings over who defended him versus who didn't. He said he was a union organizer... and conveniently left out that it was a police union. He then doubled down on his legitimacy, demanded apologies from everyone, put his friends in charge and let them harass anyone who objected, and held their Twitter and bank accounts hostage while people were calling for him to step down. National DSA leadership said, "Well, he was elected, so  ", and he finally resigned a few months later.How the DSA Screwed Up with Danny Fetonte
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Speaking of cop unions, good thread on that "Beto hates union" stuff https://twitter.com/jbenmenachem/status/1084490021950902273
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Jan 16, 2019 17:26
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Ahhhh I hate this talking point. Beto’s critique of police unions (and firefighter unions, everyone conveniently leaves that part out) was that they were collectively bargaining for too much pay and that public unions are somehow fundamentally different from private unions. Giving him legitimacy as making some kind of coherent left-wing anti-racist critique of police unions is horseshit, he still has tweets up praising border patrol lmao.
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Not according to the head of the El Paso Firefighter's Unionquote:O’Rourke’s remarks did not hurt him with firefighters at the time, El Paso Association of Fire Fighters President Joe Tellez told The Intercept. From his recollection, O’Rourke’s beef was with the police union, and “they do business a little differently.” The firefighters, he explained, had deferred some of their wages as a show of solidarity with the struggling people of El Paso. Or the AFL-CIO quote:O’Rourke boasts a lifetime score of 94 percent from the AFL-CIO for his voting record in Congress, and a recent poll of New Hampshire voters by Change Research showed that his supporters, compared to those of the other potential 2020 Democrats, have the most favorable views of unions. Cop union agrees with you tho quote:El Paso Municipal Police Officers’ Association President Ron Martin had a different view. “Back in that time, he was not an ally of the labor unions at all,” he told The Intercept, taking issue with how O’Rourke had characterized the union’s demands. “I guess throughout time, he has worked with us, worked with fire, and worked with the border patrol unions. I wouldn’t say he’s not an advocate of them, but he’s not — you know, he doesn’t come out and attack the unions anymore, even though it does cost mone
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If you expect me to take it on faith that the guy married to a charter school lady actually likes public unions honest and is really just trying to stick it to the cops I have a bridge to sell you.
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Jan 16, 2019 17:46
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If you just think he's lying about what he believes, then there's no discussion to be had. Anyway funny story about Texas unions, for years and years the state GOP had been trying to pass a bill to make it illegal to automatically deduct public sector union dues from paychecks. They never offered a good reason for it (the best they came up with was 'government shouldn't have anything to do with union procedures) but everyone knows that it's an attempt to weaken unions. A lot of people are fine with being in a union as long as they don't have to raise a finger to do anything about it, so if you make them affirmatively pay their dues rather than automatically, they can't be bothered. They tried to get this bill through session after session, but they couldn't because of strong opposition from police and firefighters unions, which tend to have much more conservative memberships as well as being to appeal to conservatives because conservatives love to suck cop dick. So last session, they exempted those unions, and the bill passed. It's funny to watch the floor debates on those bills because the Democrats are just hammering them "why are you exempting these specific unions" while the Republicans just shrug their shoulders and go iunno
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Beto said he didn’t want to hurt public sector unions as bad as Scott Walker did, but that doesn’t exactly scream pro public sector union to me.
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People keep acting like Beto pretended he was anything other than a centrist, and it's weirding me out. He's a Texas Democrat, he was never going to be leftist in any meaningful way.
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