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TACD posted:I guess I'm behind the times, but since when did Uber start renting cars to its drivers? I thought drivers bringing their own cars was their whole deal and fairly central to their already-tenuous "we're not a taxi company" gambit? A while ago, though generally they're not the people actually doing the leasing/renting, they cut deals with another company and then set up an even more predatory relationship with the drivers.
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Remember the subprime mortgage crisis? Uber wants to do that, but with auto loans. https://qz.com/1013882/ubers-rental-and-lease-programs-with-new-york-car-dealers-push-drivers-toward-shady-subprime-contracts/
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Aug 4, 2017 16:22
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car ownership in singapore also comes with punitive-level taxes often at or above the actual cost of the car
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Aug 4, 2017 16:26
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want a prius for 130k sgd (about 100k usd)? prolly at the shittiest trim? http://toyota.com.sg/en/showroom/new-models/prius
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Aug 4, 2017 16:29
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Makes sense given how little land they have. Although it would probably make more sense to have extremely high costs for, say, a permit to use the car (or maybe just have congestion fees), rather than on the cost of the car itself.
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Aug 4, 2017 16:30
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bottom trim lambo aventador costs 1.5 mil sgd there (1.2 mil usd about) bottom trim lambo aventador in us costs $400k http://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/newcars_listing.php?MOD=lamborghini think that's the highest ratio i've found. doesn't prevent there from being a ridiculous amount of supercars over there
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TACD posted:I guess I'm behind the times, but since when did Uber start renting cars to its drivers? I thought drivers bringing their own cars was their whole deal and fairly central to their already-tenuous "we're not a taxi company" gambit? In Singapore it's ridiculously expensive to get a permit to put a vehicle on the road. There is no way anyone who can afford a Certificate of Entitlement would be driving for Uber. You have to bid on them and they expire every 10 years. Also, the annual registration fee is at least S$20k (just under $15k).
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Aug 4, 2017 16:35
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Why doesn't the HYPERLOOP use a ramjet to gulp air instead of using a low pressure tube?
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Aug 4, 2017 16:43
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Dmitri-9 posted:Why doesn't the HYPERLOOP use a ramjet to gulp air instead of using a low pressure tube? Once you have a magnetic rail system and a vacuum tube, there are multiple ways that you could provide propulsion. For one, you could have a rail gun like system where you accelerate to a high speed using magnetic force and the vacuum plus the maglev rail would mean you go a very long way before you slow down. You could also have the train itself generating propulsion. I don't know why they're so set on the vacuum tube propulsion which is a pretty ancient solution, technology wise.
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Cicero posted:Makes sense given how little land they have. Although it would probably make more sense to have extremely high costs for, say, a permit to use the car (or maybe just have congestion fees), rather than on the cost of the car itself. this seems like extremely fine hair splitting. what is the difference between a high fee on a vehicle use permit vs a high fee on a vehicle itself?
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Aug 4, 2017 17:12
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boner confessor posted:this seems like extremely fine hair splitting. what is the difference between a high fee on a vehicle use permit vs a high fee on a vehicle itself? In this particular example they have both. And the difference is that the vehicle use permit costs what it costs. The vehicle registration is based on the value of the vehicle.
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Aug 4, 2017 17:14
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gas is also $8sgd/gallon ($2sgd/liter, $1.50usd/liter, $6/gallon), just like in korea or japan
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Lote posted:Once you have a magnetic rail system and a vacuum tube, there are multiple ways that you could provide propulsion. For one, you could have a rail gun like system where you accelerate to a high speed using magnetic force and the vacuum plus the maglev rail would mean you go a very long way before you slow down. You could also have the train itself generating propulsion. I don't know why they're so set on the vacuum tube propulsion which is a pretty ancient solution, technology wise. a e s t h e t i c s
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Lote posted:I don't know why they're so set on the vacuum tube propulsion which is a pretty ancient solution, technology wise. the vacuum tube is necessary to cripple the entire scheme by greatly increasing the cost per mile of track to no real benefit while also reducing the train's maximum size thus passenger capacity and also necessitating weird gadgetry to facilitate boarding and egress of the vehicle
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Aug 4, 2017 17:20
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boner confessor posted:this seems like extremely fine hair splitting. what is the difference between a high fee on a vehicle use permit vs a high fee on a vehicle itself?
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Aug 4, 2017 17:31
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sounds like a progressive tax on luxuries to me
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Aug 4, 2017 17:49
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Motronic posted:In Singapore it's ridiculously expensive to get a permit to put a vehicle on the road. There is no way anyone who can afford a Certificate of Entitlement would be driving for Uber. Also, every car need to be 5 years or less of age plus car tax.
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Aug 4, 2017 18:06
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boner confessor posted:the vacuum tube is necessary to cripple the entire scheme by greatly increasing the cost per mile of track to no real benefit while also reducing the train's maximum size thus passenger capacity and also necessitating weird gadgetry to facilitate boarding and egress of the vehicle The main reason to make the hyperloop dumb and overcomplicated instead of just proposing to mass produce maglev trains is probably getting idiots to go "ooooh a vacuum tube bullet transport system for people, please take my money" even though it's unlikely it would actually be more economical than a maglev train.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Cicero posted:If the point is to disincentivize driving due to space concerns then the penalty scaling with the price of the car doesn't really make much sense; a fancy sports car takes up the same amount of space as a boring sedan. It would make more sense to charge, say, each day you actually drive it in the city, so that someone who drives twice as much pays twice as much. At that price point, it absolutely disincentivizes driving. I can't remember if Singapore does this, but Hong Kong auctions the permits. There's a fixed number. The extremely high taxes/fees make the relative cost of luxury cars far less than in the US, so you see a comparatively high number of really nice card driving around.
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You literally can only get the rich to not hate pubic transport by playing to the 'oooh, shiny' factor. Which shouldn't be a surprise since that's Tesla's whole deal.
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Aug 5, 2017 02:24
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Korean, Japanese, Singaporean, New Yorker upper middle class af people all use the subway You need density, lots thereof
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Aug 5, 2017 02:45
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Inescapable Duck posted:You literally can only get the rich to not hate pubic transport by playing to the 'oooh, shiny' factor. This isn't true at all, but ok.
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Aug 5, 2017 02:48
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Does anyone actually like public transportation? I think everyone looks at as basically a necessary evil, regardless of how much money they have in their bank account.
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:Does anyone actually like public transportation? I think everyone looks at as basically a necessary evil, regardless of how much money they have in their bank account. I like being able to sit back and read on my commute. Which is possible most of the time on public transport.
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Aug 5, 2017 03:12
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:Does anyone actually like public transportation? I think everyone looks at as basically a necessary evil, regardless of how much money they have in their bank account. I loving love it, because I can be extremely drunk or tired or just play on my phone during my commute*. *My commute is one block from my house is the train station, when I get off the train the train station exits directly into the building I work in.
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Aug 5, 2017 03:12
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I am a distracted driver, because my thoughts are always more interesting (to me) than what's going on on the road. You don't want me driving, and I don't want me driving. My parents are 86 and we're about to have the dreaded "taking away the car keys" conversation. This will effectively trap them in their supported-living community, because the small city they live in has laughable public transit that doesn't even pass their nursing home. Good public transit would mean that getting off the road didn't mean isolating them.
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Aug 5, 2017 03:16
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I like being able to sit back and read on my commute. Which is possible most of the time on public transport. Yeah this. Podcasts are all well and good but being able to read / play with my widget is even better.
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Aug 5, 2017 03:18
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lol tech workers are so hosed https://twitter.com/liberalism_txt/status/893264471912742912 They're just dying to stop paying decent salaries.
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Aug 5, 2017 04:10
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And here I am paying a mortgage like an idiot...
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Prison is the new military.
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:Does anyone actually like public transportation? I think everyone looks at as basically a necessary evil, regardless of how much money they have in their bank account. Public transportation rules because Im a poo poo driver and can take the train to avoid the Schyukill Deathway
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Aug 5, 2017 04:16
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Wait so I should get arrested so I can afford to pay off my debts? 
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:Does anyone actually like public transportation? I think everyone looks at as basically a necessary evil, regardless of how much money they have in their bank account. It depends; public transportation, done right, is pretty god damned amazing. I for one would just love to be able to do away with maintaining a car and paying car insurance. It would make me very happy if I could take a bus, a train, or a subway to work instead of having to drive. I could read for that extra time instead of having to drive. I could get more walking exercise in. Worst case scenario is it takes me an hour to get to work if I drive. A typical bus ride is 90 minutes.
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Much like unions, worker's rights and healthcare, public transport is one of those things that the rest of the civilised world takes for granted as an aspect of a functioning country, that Americans have been carefully taught from birth to fear and reject for being Communism.
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Inescapable Duck posted:Much like unions, worker's rights and healthcare, public transport is one of those things that the rest of the civilised world takes for granted as an aspect of a functioning country, that Americans have been carefully taught from birth to fear and reject for being Communism. america had good public transport before 1950, but then we made a bet on driving cars everywhere and it turns out that sucks
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boner confessor posted:america had good public transport before 1950, but then we made a bet on driving cars everywhere and it turns out that sucks america had good public transport and then people with cars started living places without public transport.
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:Does anyone actually like public transportation? I think everyone looks at as basically a necessary evil, regardless of how much money they have in their bank account. That is a very US centered opinion, but US is built on car transportation in a way that is massively different from other countries. Public transportation is great when it works. I used public transportation daily for going back and forth to my job in a different country and in less than one hour one way trip. It was more comfortable, as fast as a car and much cheaper.
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I’m sure it’s entirely a coincidence that the massive shift to a suburban car-based lifestyle among the white middle class happened around the same time as desegregation.
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Everybody pretends like they'll read War and Peace while riding the bus but from observation, you're lucky if they read Trump's latest tweet masterpieces, most people just stare in the distance and avoid making eye contact. And if you do try to read something, you'll find that it's a pretty distracting environment that can make concentrating on the text quite difficult.
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