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I'm really interested in how this'll be done. It's ADB writing, but will GW let him write from the Emperor's perspective, or will it be the tales of Jeff Custodes the true hero of the Imperium?
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Sep 17, 2016 00:38
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The emperor won't even be in it lol
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Sep 17, 2016 03:20
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Are there any other sci-fi series that have to staple Bewildered Everymen to all of their important characters so you can relate to them in any way?
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Sep 17, 2016 05:08
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:I'm really interested in how this'll be done. It's ADB writing, but will GW let him write from the Emperor's perspective, or will it be the tales of Jeff Custodes the true hero of the Imperium? Demon Of The Fall posted:The emperor won't even be in it lol Jeff Custodes strode into the briefing room. Bob Custodes looked up "Oh hey Jeff. You just missed the Emperor again, but he definitely wants to speak to you later" .................................................... "The Emperor? Oh he just left on that train, if only you'd been here two minutes earlier" ................................................... "Jeff! Oh sorry man, the Emperor just teleported out. He thought it was the Sigilite coming throught the door, and he owes him 50 space bucks." ..................................................etc.
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Sep 17, 2016 23:19
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I hope ADB doesn't pull a "Jonh Romero" on us and plays this straight.
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Sep 18, 2016 00:26
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A used book store near me has a copy of Ahriman Exile for 40 bucks. I think I'm just gonna wait for the omnibus
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Sep 18, 2016 03:52
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Angry Lobster posted:I hope ADB doesn't pull a "Jonh Romero" on us and plays this straight. Aaron Dembski-Bowden's about to make you his bitch.
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Sep 18, 2016 04:03
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I remember him making a post a few months back saying that there will definitely be lots of Emperor action/exposition in MoM, but don't worry, he's not stupid enough to try and write from the emperor's perspective. My guess is that we'll get a lot of observations and Deep Thoughts from those that have spent the most time with him. Also, I'm really liking Praetorian of Dorn; it feels like the first book that got written after GW realized that "Oops, looks like people don't like our idea of stalling the Heresy forever after Istvaan, maybe we should start advancing the story again." And I liked French's Ahriman series, but was curious about how he'd write the much less sorcery-and-chaosy-based book. I'm glad to say that he really gets what makes the Fists exceptional and strange in their own way, and does a good job of rising above the bolter porn and plot progression every so often to make some interesting points about the nature of astartes, their way of thinking, and what a primarch is, compared to astartes and humans. Plus some good ol' Alpha Legion "who's playing who" fuckery, which presents them as both antagonists and protagonists in their own right. Nothing's topped the First Heretic-Betrayer combo for me just yet, but so far, this one's a pretty close contender.
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Sep 18, 2016 17:16
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Snollygoster posted:Are there any other sci-fi series that have to staple Bewildered Everymen to all of their important characters so you can relate to them in any way? Yes, other sci-fi series include protagonists. I'm being flippant, but it's a pretty basic literary tradition: if the setting is unfamiliar, have a relateable and generally ignorant viewpoint character who learns and grows along with the reader. I'm actually having a hard time thinking of a successful modern operatic science fiction work that does not include a comparatively Bewildered Everyman to carry the reader. (Cf. every other sci-fi series off the top of my head: Revelation Space, the Culture books, Red Rising, Star Wars, the Expanse, Dune to a certain extent...) Black Library is pretty ham-handed about it, but that doesn't make the technique itself any less effective. Sulecrist fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Sep 19, 2016 |
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Sep 19, 2016 03:05
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Snollygoster posted:Are there any other sci-fi series that have to staple Bewildered Everymen to all of their important characters so you can relate to them in any way? Yes. Nearly all of them.
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Sep 19, 2016 03:21
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poo poo, it's not even a sci-fi thing. How many plain old war movies have the exact same thing with some shiney fresh dude out of basic learning the ropes as the story progresses?
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Sep 19, 2016 03:25
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mango sentinel posted:Yes. Nearly all of them. Namely the great Wesley Crusher!
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Sep 19, 2016 03:26
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Just starting Flight of the Eisenstein and Mortarion 100% huffs his own farts, right?
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Sep 19, 2016 14:30
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Looking for some advice on WHF novels. Is the "End Times" series any good? Does it assume that the reader is intensely familiar with WHF lore? From what I've seen, the books written by Josh Reynolds seem to be considered decent. I've only read the "Knights of Bretonnia" novels by Ant Reynolds and thought it was OK. A lot of battles over and over again but... it's Warhammer, what do you expect?
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Sep 19, 2016 15:34
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I enjoyed Gotrek and Felix up until Giantslayer, though that was about 10 years ago as a teenager I read them.
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Sep 19, 2016 17:44
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Panama Red posted:Looking for some advice on WHF novels. Check the OP, all the fantasy books there are acceptable enough, even one from Nick Kyme. If I were you, I would start with the Swords books, and then try either Gotrek and Felix or Malus Darkblade, depending on your tastes, or Fell Cargo if you like swashbuckling and fantasy pirates.
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Sep 19, 2016 17:52
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Panama Red posted:Looking for some advice on WHF novels. I read a couple of the End Times books before I went off track, and yes, I would say that you're probably better off if you are familiar with the lore. You don't have to be a master by any means, but there might be some references that you might not catch. Don't let stop you though - give the first one a shot and see what you think. Sigmar's Blood is apparently the first in the series, but it really officially starts with The Return of Nagash, which I enjoyed. Though I just noticed GW is charging $15.99 for their ebooks and $16.00 for their paperbacks, so buy them second-hand and don't give GW the satisfaction of taking your hard earned money.
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Sep 20, 2016 17:02
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berzerkmonkey posted:I read a couple of the End Times books before I went off track, and yes, I would say that you're probably better off if you are familiar with the lore. You don't have to be a master by any means, but there might be some references that you might not catch. Don't let stop you though - give the first one a shot and see what you think. Sigmar's Blood is apparently the first in the series, but it really officially starts with The Return of Nagash, which I enjoyed. Thanks. I may well get this, which combines The Return of Nagash with the second book, The Fall of Altdorf: https://www.amazon.com/Lords-Dead-Return-Nagash-Altdorf/dp/1784961515/ref=pd_ybh_a_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=VMTEGTZW374PQV265SA3 Josh Reynolds and Chris Wraight both seem like well-liked BL authors.
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Sep 20, 2016 20:03
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Has anyone else ever noticed how Dan Abnett is always super-specific in enumerating the casualties in his action scenes? He's never content with glossing things over with: "The Chaos Marine opened up with his autocannon, mowing Guardsmen down in droves." It always has to be: "The squad of 12 guardsman immediately fired on the score of traitors, killing 5, wounding 3 and sending the remaining 12 diving for cover. The traitors began to fire back: 3 soldiers quickly falling to their lasfire. In the shadows above the fight, Badass Inquisition Sidekick no.456 aimed his sniper laser rifle, quickly dropping another 2 traitors etc etc etc" I don't know whether it's an unconscious tic or whether it's a sly running joke that subtly equates the fight scenes to their dice rolling, tabletop equivalents but once you pick up on it, it's really obvious.
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Sep 20, 2016 22:46
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Take a drink every time the word "sheer" is used on necropolis
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Sep 20, 2016 23:07
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Pistol_Pete posted:Has anyone else ever noticed how Dan Abnett is always super-specific in enumerating the casualties in his action scenes? He's never content with glossing things over with: "The Chaos Marine opened up with his autocannon, mowing Guardsmen down in droves." It always has to be: "The squad of 12 guardsman immediately fired on the score of traitors, killing 5, wounding 3 and sending the remaining 12 diving for cover. The traitors began to fire back: 3 soldiers quickly falling to their lasfire. In the shadows above the fight, Badass Inquisition Sidekick no.456 aimed his sniper laser rifle, quickly dropping another 2 traitors etc etc etc" I suspect it relates to his comic writing, where it's more important to keep track of that kind of thing. 40k in general uses the word "entire" a LOT.
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2 questions. 1. how are the thanquol books and the witch hunter books. 2. what was the one essay on 1d4chan written about how chaos works and why someone would convert to it? i think it was done by ADB or another of the good authors for fun. but i cant find it.
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Sep 21, 2016 01:16
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I liked Mathias Thulmen Witch-Hunter omnibus
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Pistol_Pete posted:Has anyone else ever noticed how Dan Abnett is always super-specific in enumerating the casualties in his action scenes? He's never content with glossing things over with: "The Chaos Marine opened up with his autocannon, mowing Guardsmen down in droves." It always has to be: "The squad of 12 guardsman immediately fired on the score of traitors, killing 5, wounding 3 and sending the remaining 12 diving for cover. The traitors began to fire back: 3 soldiers quickly falling to their lasfire. In the shadows above the fight, Badass Inquisition Sidekick no.456 aimed his sniper laser rifle, quickly dropping another 2 traitors etc etc etc" I didn't pick up on this in Eisenhorn of Ravenor at all but so far in the first half of First and Only I've noticed it a a half dozen times. I've never played tabletop 40k so I can't speak to the similarities but I do like that it makes picturing the scenes more clear as they play out in my head.
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Sep 21, 2016 01:56
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It's always funny when he has 2 groups of people open up on each other at close range and, instead of the ground being covered in bleeding corpses in seconds, most of them miss and a firefight goes on for several pages. In the grim darkness of the far future, nobody can shoot straight.
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Sep 21, 2016 07:17
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With all the screaming and shouting of litanies to get anything done they're not exercising proper breathing control for superior shot placement.
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Sep 21, 2016 07:42
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Well we all know how much recoil laser weaponry has.
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Sep 21, 2016 07:43
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Dapper_Swindler posted:2 questions. I like them. They're a bit Ciaphus Cain, the hook is the same in every book, and you're not going to confuse them for real literature, but they're entertaining and a fun different taken on the setting.
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Waroduce posted:I liked Mathias Thulmen Witch-Hunter omnibus Seconded. Witch Hunter was a good series.
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Sep 21, 2016 14:19
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Pendent posted:The Blood Angels book has been entirely retconned at this point for which I am very thankful because it is absolutely terrible. I don't think there's a Blood Angels player out there that actually likes those books. It's a shame because the chapter gets very few books but that's Black Library I guess Progress report: You were right, the Blood Angels book is complete trash. I couldn't even make it all the way through the first novel in the omnibus. So glad I didnt order the second omnibus to go along with it.
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Sep 21, 2016 18:50
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Where does Loken pop back up in the Heresy books?
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Sep 21, 2016 20:04
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When is kyaeler going to write some more fanfic?
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I've made a horrible mistake. I decided I'd go ahead and read Pariah. I mean, how bad could it be? Eisenhorn and Ravenor both had their big arcs, but each book was a contained story, so I'll read the first tale in the new thing, and maybe the other two will be written someday, like a bonus. God damnit.
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Sep 21, 2016 20:40
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mango sentinel posted:Where does Loken pop back up in the Heresy books? In the novels or the short stories? Pretty recently in the novels, about two or three years before that in the short stories. Dude is crazy on Isstvan 3 for a while.
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Sep 21, 2016 20:49
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He's mostly in the audiobooks
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SnakesRevenge posted:I've made a horrible mistake. I decided I'd go ahead and read Pariah. I mean, how bad could it be? Eisenhorn and Ravenor both had their big arcs, but each book was a contained story, so I'll read the first tale in the new thing, and maybe the other two will be written someday, like a bonus. It gets better. Wait until you get older and start to think things like "Hmm. Will I die before 'whatever' is completed?"
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VanSandman posted:In the novels or the short stories? Pretty recently in the novels, about two or three years before that in the short stories. Dude is crazy on Isstvan 3 for a while. As I recall, Loken is in a few of the stories in The Silent War. That's a pretty good anthology; most of the usual writers contributed, and usually an above average story by their standards.
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Sep 21, 2016 21:59
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SnakesRevenge posted:I've made a horrible mistake. I decided I'd go ahead and read Pariah. I mean, how bad could it be? Eisenhorn and Ravenor both had their big arcs, but each book was a contained story, so I'll read the first tale in the new thing, and maybe the other two will be written someday, like a bonus. Eisenhorn = 3 books. Ravenor = 3 books. Pariah = ... 1 book. Complete the pattern Abnett, ffs!
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