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EvilJoven posted:poo poo, even during childhood in the 80s I was hearing in the media about how we'd all be hosed if we didn't change course. But no, these guys deserve a seat at the table. We can't ignore them, they're important. We need to keep them happy. Because jobs.
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EvilJoven posted:poo poo, even during childhood in the 80s I was hearing in the media about how we'd all be hosed if we didn't change course. This is precisely why the urgency of the matter completely fails to register for most people. Telling someone "Your house is on fire, get the gently caress out." is an immediate hazard, easy to understand and act on. But no matter how much science, graphs and data you show them, people fail to grasp the abstract, indirect threat from constant consumption, carbon emissions, etc. that ultimately materializes as climate change. The fact that science has been warning everyone for 30 years doesn't make people more receptive, it just dulls the threat even more. edit: It's not the article where I originally read about this, but this Time article does a good job of explaining some of the social research that's been done to understand why the scientific warnings about climate change are being ignored by the public. Jan fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Apr 12, 2016 |
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Apr 12, 2016 21:18
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Helsing posted:My concern is that the Manifesto is tone deaf and suffused with a kind of left-wing self righteousness that I personally don't mind but which I cannot imagine working well during a political campaign. I think it's overall a positive step that the party is debating something so far beyond the current mainstream debate but I would be extremely uncomfortable trying to fight an election with something modeled on this document. There's the policy, and then there's the job of selling the policy and convincing people that we need to start moving things in that direction now. There have been so many documentaries about climate change and the tar sands and so much exposure to this idea in the public media, that I don't think awareness is really an issue any more. People are just in denial. I don't know how you tie that into populist outrage, and get people motivated to even just start to make the changes that we need to make. Oil and mining companies have been running roughshod for decades, but it's only when their negligence reaches a crescendo (say during an oil or chemical spill) that anything happens, and even then the response is dragged out over so many years that people forget why they were angry in the first place when the punishment is reduced or overturned on appeal. It doesn't help that we're all complicit in climate change, and the cure - if there is one - seems harsher than the ailment. But someone in power has to start explicitly stating the changes that need to be made. Will it result in all carbon emitting sources of power being replaced by renewable (or nuclear) sources in 2050 worldwide or even in Canada? I really doubt it, sadly. But for forces like the Alberta and BC NDP to array against their own federal party on this issue while left-leaning individuals hem and haw about the optics raises a lot of cause for doubt that anything will change.
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Apr 12, 2016 21:20
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You know, one year probably in our lifetimes there will be such a crop disaster caused by climate change that 10s if not 100s of millions of people will starve. If that still sounds alarmist, knowing everything we do in 2016, then you may also be in denial. e: Not us though, we'll be fine here in North America.
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Apr 12, 2016 21:26
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:You know, one year probably in our lifetimes there will be such a crop disaster caused by climate change that 10s if not 100s of millions of people will starve. Isn't this the basis of the food security argument and the underpinning of Canada's agriboard monopolies? It's a good thing we aren't trying to systemically dismantle such things for more profits 
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Apr 12, 2016 21:36
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Cultural Imperial posted:As long as y'all admit to being hypocrites it's ok I am a hippogriff.
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Apr 12, 2016 21:43
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i'm sure we'll be fine because we'll all be saved by the hipster artisanal farms in pemberton growing single vine arugula and small batch blackberries
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Apr 12, 2016 21:43
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can you imagine weed mentat frank's happy place's alligator tears when growops start getting expropriated for emergency food production lol
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Apr 12, 2016 21:45
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Does Vancouver even have any growops? It seems like it would synergize well in terms of profit margins in comparison to having actual people renting from your RE equity holdings.
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Apr 12, 2016 21:50
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jm20 posted:Does Vancouver even have any growops? what the
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Apr 12, 2016 21:58
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My dad says that in the 70s scientists were heralding a new ice age and now suddenly it's going to get hotter geez scientists make up you're mind and also this is why we can't trust you ever I bet you're pockets are being lined by rich people trying to stamp out our way of life you're just jealous
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Apr 12, 2016 21:58
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jm20 posted:Does Vancouver even have any growops? It seems like it synergize well in terms of profit margins in comparison to having actual people renting from your RE equity holdings. Nope, they all relocated to Surrey for cheaper housing and to avoid paying tolls.
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Apr 12, 2016 22:01
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Cultural Imperial posted:what the You know, downtown with the 4million dollar teardowns making topshelf Canadian WEED, oils, and edibles.
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Apr 12, 2016 22:12
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DariusLikewise posted:Winnipeg Radio host who spent all of last year defending Winnipeg against the Maclean's "Most Racist City in Canada" article makes and posts 2 incredibly racist and sexist music videos(with a 3rd one that never will see the light of day) I have a ton of people on my Facebook feed just crying about "SJW BULLSHIT PC PARADE". When the joke is simply, "Native people stab and steal bikes" "Wolsley is full of lesbians and they have hairy armpits" - it's weak as hell, there is no joke except racism and sexism.
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Apr 12, 2016 22:20
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are people seriously defending the tpp in here because they think it is structured like trade deals were 100 years ago. lmao
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Apr 12, 2016 22:21
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In the video games I play trade treaties give bonus income to each country and improve relations, trade deals are good because they make economy strong.
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Apr 12, 2016 22:22
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Baronjutter posted:In the video games I play trade treaties give bonus income to each country and improve relations, trade deals are good because they make economy strong. Would you be interested in a trade agreement with
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Apr 12, 2016 22:24
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Cultural Imperial posted:can you imagine weed mentat frank's happy place's alligator tears when growops start getting expropriated for emergency food production lol there isn't going to be any good farmland left to expropriate at the rate canada is going
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Apr 12, 2016 22:56
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Dreylad posted:there isn't going to be any good farmland left to expropriate at the rate canada is going Global warming is going to turn the canadian shield into the world's bread basket.
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Apr 12, 2016 22:58
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Cultural Imperial posted:http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...eningitis-death Note that they ignored the advice of a naturopath to get the child to a real doctor. When we're hanging naturopaths with the guts of economists maybe we should spare that one.
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Apr 12, 2016 23:16
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Pinterest Mom posted:NDP leaderchat: If it finally kills the LPQ I'm all for it. gently caress the LPQ forever and ever.
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Apr 12, 2016 23:45
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Hexigrammus posted:Note that they ignored the advice of a naturopath to get the child to a real doctor. "It's all fun and games when I'm just taking your money and giving you nonsense in return, but this person seems seriously ill and needs to go to a real doctor and receive actual treatment." Hmm, still seems slightly unethical.
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Apr 12, 2016 23:59
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Baronjutter posted:Global warming is going to turn the canadian shield into the world's bread basket.
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Apr 13, 2016 00:04
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Luckily we've been preparing the soil in Northern Alberta by removing all the nasty bitumen from it 
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cowofwar posted:Agriculture requires more than just temperature. The glacial till over the shield can barely be considered soil.
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Apr 13, 2016 00:26
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cowofwar posted:Agriculture requires more than just temperature. The glacial till over the shield can barely be considered soil. yeah lol. the russians? theyre gonna be laughin, siberia's gonna open right up. we can't do poo poo with slightly warmer exposed bedrock and muskeg that we aren't already doing there. the handful of good soil zones will benefit so uhhhh im eagerly awaiting the windfall from the glorious breadbasket that will be the sudbury basin
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Apr 13, 2016 00:29
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Have some Good Ol' Boy, eastern Ontario comedy, CanPol thread: Reevely: MPP Jack MacLaren touts praise from phantom constituents David Reevely posted:West-end MPP Jack MacLaren has decorated his website with testimonials from people he appears to have made up. I'm clipping it for brevity's sake, but the pictures are pretty good. HackensackBackpack fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Apr 13, 2016 |
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Apr 13, 2016 00:31
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Ambrose Burnside posted:are people seriously defending the tpp in here because they think it is structured like trade deals were 100 years ago. lmao I'm thinking it's more of a descendant of the palm oil based trade agreements between various nations in Europe and Africa 200 years ago. Africa is feeling the affects of the The more things change, the more the 1% stay the same.
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cowofwar posted:Agriculture requires more than just temperature. The glacial till over the shield can barely be considered soil. 
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MonsieurChoc posted:If it finally kills the LPQ I'm all for it. He might run into difficulties if he has body parts missing. https://twitter.com/natnewswatch/status/720008246010978304
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Ambrose Burnside posted:im eagerly awaiting the windfall from the glorious breadbasket that will be the sudbury basin The actual Sudbury Basin is already crop land. The impact crater was the perfect place for a ton of soil to get deposited over the last few ice ages. 
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Apr 13, 2016 02:03
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BallsFalls posted:My understanding was that the commercial division (CANDU) was sold but AECL still exists as a crown corporation that does nuclear R&D or am I wrong? Correct, sort of. Ikantski posted:Nah, AECL is owned by SNC now. Probably a good move if you care about the planet, the NDP won't be able to use it to halt nuclear expansion if somehow they get into power. Partially true. The CANDU division of AECL was sold off to SNC-Lavalin, which basically involved IP assets, office buildings in Mississauga and the employees that worked there. The research reactor (NRU) up at Chalk River still belongs to the government. If there is any commercial design for a typical-scale reactor to be developed, SNC would be the ones doing it in Canada from now on. Now, if anyone has been paying attention to the latest hot-poo poo in nuclear, going the route of Small Modular Reactor (SMR) is what various countries are attempting to do. The UK is dumping millions at this prospect to fill the future energy demands of their country as their old reactor fleet comes to end-of-life. The idea being, instead of building units that produce 800MW to 1000MW or more that require a decade from shovel-in-ground to energy on the grid, you build a series of small units that produce ~100MW each and can be up and running somewhere around 3-5 years. You build a factory to pump them out regularly so you can maintain the brain trust to build it, maintain job demand and meet future energy growth by escalating or scaling back production. By standardizing the design and manufacture, savings would be possible that the typical-scale reactor would not be able to achieve. Nobody has been able to do it, but there is enough money and interesting in developing SMRs that they will happen. So where does that put Canada? SNC are largely ignoring SMR potential because they need to turn a buck from the CANDU IP and R&D they paid (next to nothing) for. So maybe what is left of AECL could build the SMR then, right? Wrong. First, what was left of AECL up at Chalk River transitioned to a GoCo model of ownership and rebranded as Canadian Nulcear Laboratories (CNL). AECL still lives on as a shell company to act as a go-between for the Federal government and CNL. Why? Because a GoCo model of ownership means the government owns the physical assets, and a contractor controls and operates the soft assets (people). So the current contractor that won the bid for the next 4 years to operate CNL is CNEA, which is a conglomerate of corporations that primarily have expertise in waste management. Only one corporation in said conglomerate has expertise in R&D (give you one hint which corporation that is). So, really, there is going to be next to zero interest in R&D by the new operators of this R&D facility. Mostly focusing on burying all the legacy problems that come with a nuclear facility that has been around since the Manhattan Project and has not cleaned up once. Ever. But nobody cares because it is in the middle of bumfuck nowhere and the fact hardly anybody even realizes it exists is part of the problem. And, when it comes down to it, CI is right about Canada so absolutely none of this should come as a surprise to anybody. We will probably wait for the UK to perfect their SMR tech before buying it from them than do it ourselves, and any typical-scale reactor built in the mean time will most likely be a decades-old previous-gen CANDU design because SNC bailouts.
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Apr 13, 2016 02:22
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Snc can suck my dick from the back, seriously. gently caress those idiots. Couldn't engineer their way out a money stuffed wet paper bag.
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Apr 13, 2016 03:11
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What was that dumb rear end in a top hat from Calgary saying about great Canadian companies? We've got open text, the Westons, and uh
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Apr 13, 2016 03:23
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I present to you, #RealChange
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Apr 13, 2016 03:45
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BallsFalls posted:I present to you, #RealChange quote:Canada’s export-control regime clearly stipulates that Ottawa must not issue export permits for weapons sales to countries with poor human-rights records “unless it can be demonstrated that there is no reasonable risk that the goods might be used against the civilian population.” Saudi Arabia regularly ranks among the “worst of the worst” on human rights by Freedom House. lmao bunnyofdoom you loving sack of poo poo explain yourself you motherfucker
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Apr 13, 2016 03:49
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by the way, everyone from London Ontario, get loving hosed you fucks
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Apr 13, 2016 03:50
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Cultural Imperial posted:by the way, everyone from London Ontario, get loving hosed you fucks But London is poised to become the next Kitchener!
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Ha-ha isn't London 2 hours away when the traffic isn't complete poo poo? Ontario vehicles are going to need sleeper cabs at this rate.
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