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axleblaze posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5aeCFSrm3I Wow I literally did not remember that scene at all. Thanks, though!
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Can we please talk about jump scares? I love them, I love being startled. Sinister and Insidious both have amazing ones, as mentioned. The Exorcist III one that always gets posted is great, but I feel like some of the power is sucked out by the false scare right before it. The only other I can think of is the velociraptor in the generator building in Jurassic Park, which is loving incredible. Any other killers?
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Apr 17, 2013 12:09
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I really like them too. They often follow the standard - tense music / silence / false alarm / BANG format but it's great to see how different film makers handle a similar box of tricks. Whenever someone does something different, it's especially great. The Orphanage has a good few decent jump scares. Amongst others, there are slow building ones (the old lady in the shed), outta nowhere ones (the old lady being hit by the truck) and double-hitters (the other old lady one right after she's been hit by the truck). Basically the old lady is an arsehole. The Mullholland Drive diner scene that I mentioned a few posts back is great too because he tells you exactly what's gonna happen and it plays out exactly like he said it would and you still get a fright.
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Apr 17, 2013 12:37
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SEX HAVER 40000 posted:Can we please talk about jump scares? I love them, I love being startled. Sinister and Insidious both have amazing ones, as mentioned. The Exorcist III one that always gets posted is great, but I feel like some of the power is sucked out by the false scare right before it. The only other I can think of is the velociraptor in the generator building in Jurassic Park, which is loving incredible. Any other killers? For me, one of the best jump scares is in Drag Me to Hell, when Christine is having her palm read. The music is absolutely perfect, and you know that it's coming, but it's slightly off cue, enough that the sudden flash of the Lamia is horrifying.
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Apr 17, 2013 12:38
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I love the jump scare in The Fourth Kind where it's got the close-up of Milla Jovovich doing her thing and then slam cuts to the hideously made up "real" woman who looks a hell of a lot like a grey. I laughed real hard immediately after I got scared.
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Apr 17, 2013 13:00
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The Ring has an amazing jump scare. "I FOUND HER!"
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Apr 17, 2013 13:02
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SEX HAVER 40000 posted:Can we please talk about jump scares? I love them, I love being startled. Sinister and Insidious both have amazing ones, as mentioned. The Exorcist III one that always gets posted is great, but I feel like some of the power is sucked out by the false scare right before it. The only other I can think of is the velociraptor in the generator building in Jurassic Park, which is loving incredible. Any other killers? Check out the Woman in Black remake, it has a bunch of good ones. I know a lot of people here don't care for that movie, but it's one of the few jump scare heavy movies I really like.
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Apr 17, 2013 13:11
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weekly font posted:I love the jump scare in The Fourth Kind where it's got the close-up of Milla Jovovich doing her thing and then slam cuts to the hideously made up "real" woman who looks a hell of a lot like a grey. I laughed real hard immediately after I got scared. I have always really loved that she kind of looks like a grey alien. Volume posted:Well for what it counts you were right about the second scene. I see what they were going for but there is no way you're gonna listen to a Tiny Tim song and do anything but smile goofily. The second scene is even better than the first BECAUSE of the drat Tiny Tim song, I mean, seriously: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_PLWqnfFgU It's a sweet and cute song but totally surreal and disturbing, it couldn't be more suited to the scene or the movie. The shot where we finally see the newsboy ghost just bopping along to the song is the same way, it's the kind of thing Wan excels at. I honestly don't see how it's weak or poorly done, it's built up properly, it's not a jump scare, it shows enough but not too much, it completely bridges the first and second halves of the film. Volume posted:Now I'm no Roger Ebert or SuperMechaGodzilla who can write three books on why a movie is or isn't good but I want to try to do a walk through of the first scene you linked and why I personally think it's a fantastic scene. This is really good stuff, I hate when people are afraid to elaborate on their opinions.
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Apr 17, 2013 14:22
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:
In the same vein, the Joanna Newsom song in The Strangers is killer. I know I watched another movie around the same time that ALSO used a Newsom song but I cannot remember what it was.
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Apr 17, 2013 14:28
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SEX HAVER 40000 posted:Can we please talk about jump scares? I love them, I love being startled. Sinister and Insidious both have amazing ones, as mentioned. The Exorcist III one that always gets posted is great, but I feel like some of the power is sucked out by the false scare right before it. The only other I can think of is the velociraptor in the generator building in Jurassic Park, which is loving incredible. Any other killers? Mama's got an amazing jump (it's the one from the short). The physicality of the ghost is so good, I'm seriously in love with that movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_BQarexnn0 This might be my be my favorite ever, the dumpster jump scare from Mullholland Drive pulls the same trick with someone being pulled on an invisible trolley. The Sentinel also has an excellent one, where she wakes up, and suddenly she just sees her father, clad in underwear, just walking across the room really fast. I honestly love jump scares too even if most of them are bad. foodfight posted:In the same vein, the Joanna Newsom song in The Strangers is killer. I know I watched another movie around the same time that ALSO used a Newsom song but I cannot remember what it was. Yeah, Dark Skies jacks it directly, and I think some recent trailer used the "skipping song" to good effect but The Strangers' scene is awesome.
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Apr 17, 2013 14:30
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I'm not a huge fan of jumpscares most of the time, but when they're used well, they're hella fun. I really like the one near the end of [REC], the Attic Camera Sweep scare. The timing manages to catch me off guard pretty much every time. It could also be a pacing thing. Either way, it works.
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Apr 17, 2013 14:37
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The Sentinel also has an excellent one, where she wakes up, and suddenly she just sees her father, clad in underwear, just walking across the room really fast. Yeah, this is an extremely memorable one. I have a soft spot for The Sentinel. It's a fun movie.
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Apr 17, 2013 14:44
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I love the The Sentinel, it looks amazing, it has every actor in the world in it and Burgess Meredith holds it down. It's not a truly great movie like Rosemary's Baby but it's such a curiosity.
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Apr 17, 2013 14:47
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I remember there being a particularly good one in The Descent, when the cave creatures show up for the first time.
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Apr 17, 2013 14:48
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I think Insidious is pretty good, but each third weaker than the one before it. I love the ghostbusters* and gasmask middle just didn't like the possessed child physically tossing everyone around the room, for a movie so intent on avoiding cliches that "backland slap and fly" just felt too familiar. And I love the idea of the last third dream state and certain parts of it, but didn't like the execution as a boss rush mode. Someone who didn't like the movie mentioned the smiling family was the only thing they found scary, but I think removing them is the easiest way to make that sequence feel more mysterious, with dangers lurking behind every corner. *And how one of them was introduced eating a hotpocket, so either he was riding around in the van hotpocket in hand waiting until he got to house to eat it probably cold now, or he was carrying a frozen one that he immediately heated up with their microwave before even talking to them. Either possibility sufficiently weird enough to be charming.
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Apr 17, 2013 14:50
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Skywalker OG posted:Just finished Sinister and god what a piece of poo poo that was. The music and some of the camera work were great, but it was filled with jumpscares and children -wastes of time - that killed the movie for me. Too many children and jump scares in my horror movie. RUINED. Jump scare means I repost this forever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH8ynu0jRvY
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Apr 17, 2013 14:53
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I've honestly really started hating jump scares because they're really predictable after awhile. I like it when they come organically from the film but most jump scares are more about the film maker making the movie really quiet and then playing a really loud noise than they are about showing something that's actually scary. I'm impressed when one can sneak up on me at this point and I give those credit but like there are movies where the scare is way more about the soundtrack than anything else. One of the reason I think I like found footage so much is because those movies are way more likely to just use natural sounds, which means they can't rely as much on the audio for the scares. Most of the ones I consider great have been mentioned though. I already posted my favorite, which is Enter the Void. In general I think that shot in Enter the Void my be the best cut between two shots I've ever seen in a film and it does alot to firmly establish the kind of nightmare we're going to be stuck in for the next hour or so. I really hated Woman in Black because it was nothing but lovely jump scares BUT it did have one really good one where he puts his hand on a window and his reflection becomes the woman. I also mentioned the big one in Sinister and I have no idea why that one was so effective. It follows all the rules I just said were bad but I guess it does pay off with something really horrific.
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Apr 17, 2013 14:54
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My favorite jump scares are the ones that nothing actually jumps, but there is an unexpected image that makes your heart sink. The ones that really are effective for me not only make me jump, but have an aftereffect of giving me chills. I'm having a hard time thinking of one. Oh wait, in Ju-On when you see the woman's silhouette in the window above the stairs.
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Apr 17, 2013 14:59
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Parachute posted:Jump scare means I repost this forever: I was going to post this one. The guy behind me at the theatre started to hyperventilate after this happened. It's on my list of favourite theatre experiences (the guy was just fine afterwards, he just wasn't ready for it).
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tickle monster posted:For me, one of the best jump scares is in Drag Me to Hell, when Christine is having her palm read. The music is absolutely perfect, and you know that it's coming, but it's slightly off cue, enough that the sudden flash of the Lamia is horrifying. There's another superb jump scare in Drag Me to Hell which I think probably the best jump scare I've ever seen (I normally hate them for how cheap they are, although they work in silly stuff like DMTH). As I recall, there's a scene that pretty much ends with a jump scare, then the next scene begins. Near enough as soon as it starts, Christine pulls back a curtain, absolutely no build-up, and WHAM JUMP SCARE. It's brilliant because that's just not how jump scares are usually paced, and you rarely get one at the very beginning of a scene (I personally can't think of any other examples of this). I wish Sam Raimi would do more horror.
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Apr 17, 2013 15:31
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I almost forgot the dream sequence from American Werewolf in London. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0wShZqevLU that one's awesome.
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Apr 17, 2013 15:59
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I have no problem with jump scares except for the most over-used jump scare used over the past few years where the camera puts you in the passenger seat and the driver (normally the protagonist or if they're being REALLY tricky the antagonist) gets blindsided. That is so cheap and overused now that any time I'm watching a scene where we see somebody from that angle, I'm waiting for it, no matter what the movie or genre.
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InfiniteZero posted:I have no problem with jump scares except for the most over-used jump scare used over the past few years where the camera puts you in the passenger seat and the driver (normally the protagonist or if they're being REALLY tricky the antagonist) gets blindsided. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC6ChpMjAZI&t=35s
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Apr 17, 2013 17:29
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I love the The Sentinel, it looks amazing, it has every actor in the world in it and Burgess Meredith holds it down. It's not a truly great movie like Rosemary's Baby but it's such a curiosity. I mean, who can't appreciate a surprise Goldblum.
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Apr 17, 2013 17:49
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The only jump scare I remember getting me (aside from all those terrible screamers in middle school), was in Jurassic Park III where the raptors come out of no where in the forest. Not a good film though.
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Apr 17, 2013 18:27
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Parachute posted:Too many children and jump scares in my horror movie. RUINED. I know what I wrote, but the whole ending of that movie is poo poo. Just poo poo.
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Apr 17, 2013 19:11
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Sometimes I feel like the only one that loved the ending to Sinister 
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Apr 17, 2013 19:22
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I think I never gave Sinister a fair chance since it stars Ethan Hawke and the demon is so full of baditude.
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Apr 17, 2013 19:24
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The Sentinel also has an excellent one, where she wakes up, and suddenly she just sees her father, clad in underwear, just walking across the room really fast. That one BUGGED ME OUT when I was a kid. It reminds me of The Shining blowjob one, it just has this deep wrongness to it. schwenz posted:My favorite jump scares are the ones that nothing actually jumps, but there is an unexpected image that makes your heart sink. The ones that really are effective for me not only make me jump, but have an aftereffect of giving me chills. What about when you see the woman under the sink in A Tale of Two Sisters? penismightier fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Apr 17, 2013 |
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Apr 17, 2013 19:28
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schwenz posted:My favorite jump scares are the ones that nothing actually jumps, but there is an unexpected image that makes your heart sink. The ones that really are effective for me not only make me jump, but have an aftereffect of giving me chills. The painting in Black Swan. Mostly, though, "jump scare" is a misnomer because you aren't being scared at all. You're being startled, which produces the same adrenaline rush as fear. This allows directors who lack the ability to evoke genuine fear or unease to confuse the audience into thinking they're watching a horror movie.
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Apr 17, 2013 19:29
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axleblaze posted:Sometimes I feel like the only one that loved the ending to Sinister You and me both.
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Apr 17, 2013 19:32
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penismightier posted:That one BUGGED ME OUT when I was a kid. It reminds me of The Shining blowjob one, it just has this deep wrongness to it. It's so startling, it almost works better out of context.
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Apr 17, 2013 19:32
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Jedit posted:Mostly, though, "jump scare" is a misnomer because you aren't being scared at all. You're being startled, which produces the same adrenaline rush as fear. This allows directors who lack the ability to evoke genuine fear or unease to confuse the audience into thinking they're watching a horror movie. That's the thing, most jump scares are just tricks of loud noises rather than anything actually scary. The original Alien gets two scares with a cat. Jump scares are startling but they only really stay with you when they have something to back it up. Like the shot in the original Jurassic Park of the Raptor coming through the wall works so well because it's startling AND it's a great image. The one that I keep going on about in Enter the Void works so well because it really establishes the nightmare logic the movie is going to devolve into. The one in Sinister is the most disturbing image in the whole film. There's also one I like in Gremlins 2 and in that one it's a bit of a misdirect because it's the first shot of a Gremlin in the film but it's also like the only real scare in the entire film.
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Apr 17, 2013 19:34
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penismightier posted:
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Apr 17, 2013 19:52
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'One jump scare' movies tend to be able to send me into a panic and be excellent horrors besides. Maybe more filmmakers need to jump on that limit, so we get more Exorcist IIIs and Lake Mungos. Man Exorcist III owns.
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Apr 17, 2013 20:03
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Violen posted:Man Exorcist III owns. It really does - especially this scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXLg3VRiAM0 Can anyone suggest other horror movies that have intense conversations like this?
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Apr 17, 2013 20:17
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Parachute posted:It really does - especially this scene: If you've never seen the X-Files episode "Beyond the Sea," you are in for a big treat.
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Apr 17, 2013 20:19
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penismightier posted:If you've never seen the X-Files episode "Beyond the Sea," you are in for a big treat. I haven't seen this or "Eyes of Laura Mars" which I am just learning about right now. I think I will check both out very soon.
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Apr 17, 2013 20:20
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Jedit posted:The painting in Black Swan. Developing a checklist of Do's and Don'ts to the genre in an attempt to differentiate what is good or bad horror is just a misguided attempt to establish yourself as some sort of connoisseur in a genre that really doesn't need any. Jump Scares have been around since the beginning, and are used to elicit a response from the audience. They in no way cheapen a film. It's possible to not use the technique effectively, but using jump-scares does not immediately establish the film as sub-par. It's like saying the GCD chord combination is to easy to write a good song with, and is overused, therefore all songs using that chord progression from now on will be deemed cheap and stupid.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:It's so startling, it almost works better out of context. The entire scene is amazing.
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