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ElBrak posted:They'll lay down a displacement and what senors and weapons they want. After 10 years they'll come up with something twice as large and with 4 times the sensors and weapons, they'll authorize one to be built and then cancel it. Then the process starts over. Don't be silly if they make it literally any bigger it can't get out of Lake Michigan.
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Meanwhile https://www.mycg.uscg.mil/News/Article/2962791/cutter-polar-star-enjoys-farm-to-galley-produce-grown-in-the-hangar/ quote:“It was the freshest produce I’ve eaten on a Coast Guard cutter,” said Cmdr. Tom Przybyla, executive officer on the 399-foot heavy icebreaker. “And it was even more of a treat to have it 30 days out from our most recent port call.”
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PneumonicBook posted:Don't be silly if they make it literally any bigger it can't get out of Lake Michigan. Max size for the seaway is 740’x78’x26’6”
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Elendil004 posted:Meanwhile Love to be an enlisted gardner growing fresh vegetables for the wardroom to enjoy.
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IncredibleIgloo posted:Love to be an enlisted gardner growing fresh vegetables for the wardroom to enjoy. It’s all about the fertilizer.
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It's a collateral, and there's absolutely no gardening while on watch. The quality of vegetables grown will make the difference between being the #1 EP and a P, because of "visibility," working 48 hours straight fixing the generator that makes the electricity for the grow lights doesn't count. You can also enjoy the vegetables, but only if you're one of the first 5 in line for chow, or you get there late enough to get the literal scrapings from the wardroom.
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So I was never on a submarine, but on an aircraft carrier "first in line" worked like this: whichever division offered the service was first in line, followed by people who worked the least. Obviously this makes sense for the cooks, they have to eat and then cook, but every other loving service was like a total fuckjob. Need to use the ship's laundry? Sign up starts after cleaning stations, and oddly enough all of supply division heads down there to help for the last 5 minutes. The ones not going down there got in line at the barber. I remember an insane conversation I had with someone in line for the barber where I was upset that it was so difficult to get on the haircut schedule, I was lucky to find time once a month, and the loving guy goes "Wow! I get lined up at least once a week, sometimes twice!" Ugh I am getting Navy Flashbacks now. Next month will be a decade out. Jesus, time flies, but nothing heats me up quicker than remember the loving Navy.
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Hah hah yeah the navy sucks! Shuffles out of the conversation sideways….
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Crab Dad posted:Hah hah yeah the navy sucks!
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Crab Dad posted:Hah hah yeah the navy sucks!
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FrozenVent posted:Max size for the seaway is 740’x78’x26’6” The crews that ride them out have told me some parts are like the suez in a carrier 
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IncredibleIgloo posted:Ugh I am getting Navy Flashbacks now. Next month will be a decade out. Jesus, time flies, but nothing heats me up quicker than remember the loving Navy. Just be an officer and get your laundry done for you by your enlisted servants. I'm finishing out my last 5 weeks by being on FEP for the first time in my career because I'm passing, but borderline, in the rope&choke, and I played "what loving department do I need" in the Naval Hospital all afternoon for my separation physical so I'm a little salty in general.
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Document everything for your eventual va claim.
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Evil SpongeBob posted:Document everything for your eventual va claim. Not emptyquoting  Also gently caress the Navy.
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PneumonicBook posted:The crews that ride them out have told me some parts are like the suez in a carrier I got overtaken by the USS Freedom on her delivery voyage; I was on a sub-seaway max lake boat and that thing was tiny.
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FrozenVent posted:I got overtaken by the USS Freedom on her delivery voyage; I was on a sub-seaway max lake boat and that thing was tiny. I mean I'm aware of the size of the freedom class, I work on them daily. I haven't ever been through the locks to get out to the st Lawrence though and was going off of what the crew told me. Really though the limiting factor for size is going to be the channel from marinette to Lake Michigan. I think marinette is supposed to rebuild their bridge so it opens wider.
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I love that the warfare capabilities of a major workhorse oceangoing surface combatant are going to be partially determined by the fact that we've decided to build it in loving Wisconsin
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The peacetime military is a job program.
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FrozenVent posted:The peacetime military is a job program. 100000000% In that way, LCS was wildly successful.
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IncredibleIgloo posted:So I was never on a submarine, but on an aircraft carrier "first in line" worked like this: whichever division offered the service was first in line, followed by people who worked the least. Obviously this makes sense for the cooks, they have to eat and then cook, but every other loving service was like a total fuckjob. Need to use the ship's laundry? Sign up starts after cleaning stations, and oddly enough all of supply division heads down there to help for the last 5 minutes. The ones not going down there got in line at the barber. I remember an insane conversation I had with someone in line for the barber where I was upset that it was so difficult to get on the haircut schedule, I was lucky to find time once a month, and the loving guy goes "Wow! I get lined up at least once a week, sometimes twice!" And now I'm mad before 8am on a Saturday. I've also been out for 10 years.
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Any navgoons have any experience with the NJP process as it relates to getting a high score (lol) on a piss test? Asking for a friend. Specifically, if the results are... let's say "circumstancial", as in a sailor screened positive for a prescribed medication, but in what I've been told (havent seen any actual lab report, and wouldnt know how to interpret it) is "a cartoonishly large amount". Does the CO have any agency at all in his decision, or are his hands tied by Big Navy to just adsep the sailor? I've only ever known of sailors popping for like, weed or coke or heroin.
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:Any navgoons have any experience with the NJP process as it relates to getting a high score (lol) on a piss test? Asking for a friend. Specifically, if the results are... let's say "circumstancial", as in a sailor screened positive for a prescribed medication, but in what I've been told (havent seen any actual lab report, and wouldnt know how to interpret it) is "a cartoonishly large amount". Does the CO have any agency at all in his decision, or are his hands tied by Big Navy to just adsep the sailor? I've only ever known of sailors popping for like, weed or coke or heroin. I haven't heard of anyone getting in trouble for a drug they were prescribed. I pissed hot more than once for meds that I was given by doctors and after showing my chain of command the Rx nothing else happened. Granted this was more than a decade ago.
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Did they disclose said prescribed medication? If yes then great, this is not an issue. Was the medication prescribed by their medical department? If yes, great, this is not an issue. If they're popping Vicodin they got on the town without having informed their medical and chain then they're in a much worse spot.
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Popped for their prescribed medication, they have tested and annotated their Rx many times before. Going only by word of mouth, the issue is that the lab results would appear to indicate this guy horked down "a month's worth" (NCIS investigator's words) of Adderall an hour before his pissed. Sailor is aware that he has the right to review all evidence presented for the charge, he's talking to legal this morning. I'm like, would you even need a piss test to indicate that? Wouldn't the smoke coming out of your ears give it away? Or the heart attack?
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Or is it "cartoonishly large" amount in that it was a contaminated sample and you'd be lying on the ground loopy with that much in you? If it's that and they're still going to NJP just escalate it or grab a lawyer because gently caress getting hosed over and losing an honorable discharge because of a paperwork screwup.
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I've never heard of the actual levels of the drug in the sample being a factor. If it's something they have a legitimate prescription for, their doc should write a letter certifying that and that's it. I was the urinalysis guy for a couple years and we had a few people pop for illegal drugs and a few pop for legit prescriptions, amounts were never a consideration. If it's something like "this is 100x more than should be present" that sounds more like a lab error or something.
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I had a PO1 pop for an expired prescription. He was a great sailor so the command went to bat for him and kept him in. Made chief next cycle. So there is wiggle room for these “not actually heroin or weed” cases.
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Definitely let legal handle it. I was on tramadol for my motorcycle accident and took a few drug tests during that time and never had any issues so it really shouldn’t be for them unless the command is just looking for an excuse to gently caress with them.
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Honestly the entire convo with NCIS, hell even that there was a convo with NCIS at all seems kinda sus to me. Apparently the only reason they wanted to talk to him was to see if he would "give up his source" and once they decided that wasn't going to happen they were done talking to him. They "didn't have" a copy of the results on hand. Really?
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:Honestly the entire convo with NCIS, hell even that there was a convo with NCIS at all seems kinda sus to me. Apparently the only reason they wanted to talk to him was to see if he would "give up his source" and once they decided that wasn't going to happen they were done talking to him. They "didn't have" a copy of the results on hand. Really? Give up his source? Like, the medical department that prescribes him the medication? What the h*ck x100000, lawyer time.
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Dont ever talk to cops without talking to your attorney first.
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Grip it and rip it posted:Dont ever talk to cops without talking to your attorney first.
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Grip it and rip it posted:Dont talk to cops.
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:Going only by word of mouth Ah, I see.
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maffew buildings posted:lawyer time.
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:Honestly the entire convo with NCIS, hell even that there was a convo with NCIS at all seems kinda sus to me. Apparently the only reason they wanted to talk to him was to see if he would "give up his source" and once they decided that wasn't going to happen they were done talking to him. They "didn't have" a copy of the results on hand. Really? Motherfucker needs a solid military lawyer he’s hosed
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I just got the best "tell me you were a Nuke without telling me you were a Nuke" service-related injury on my pre-seperation physical. Arthritis in my writing hand.
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A quick google found a UPC handbook from 2017 with this to say:quote:6. Wrongful Use Determination: From my experience the "investigation" went something like 1. LS1 tested positive for opiates. 2. LS1 had her appendix removed last week and was prescribed painkillers. 3. Have doc write a letter saying what she was prescribed and that it will show up as opiates on a drug screening. Done. I don't know how NCIS would get involved in the first place without the command bringing them in, but this is like a fourth-hand account so I'm sure there are elements of the story we're not getting. But if the CO wants to keep the sailor there's absolutely no way they would be forced to ADSEP them against their (the CO's) will.
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I have a pair of positive drug results that my UPC let me keep copies of. I got rotator cuff surgery, got prescribed opiates. Sent all the stuff into Medical. Got the urinalysis anyway, got positive. Three years later, other shoulder, same deal. For something like adderal, I can see how taking a pill before a test and not having meticulously clean hands could contaminate the sample since (as far as I understand) amphetamine itself is present in the sample, unlike some other drug tests that are looking for metabolites.
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