What is the most powerful flying bug? This poll is closed. |
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🦋 | 15 | 3.71% | |
🦇 | 115 | 28.47% | |
🪰 | 12 | 2.97% | |
🐦 | 67 | 16.58% | |
dragonfly | 94 | 23.27% | |
🦟 | 14 | 3.47% | |
🐝 | 87 | 21.53% | |
Total: | 404 votes |
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Spergin Morlock posted:the ukrainian state chose to align with russia 10 years ago and got a color revolution for their trouble Not even. The Ukrainian state under Yanukovych chose neutrality - that wasn't good enough for the West.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 23:28 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 08:05 |
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Homeless Friend posted:lmao lobster seeing nonsense post for the first time
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 23:30 |
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Dokapon Findom posted:Gorbachev should have put more effort into finding a way to manufacture denim jeans and import bananas. Then none of this would have ever happened the denim jeans were being made behind the iron curtain. It just didn't have the mystique of levi's.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 23:44 |
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CongoJack posted:oh so Ukraine was just supposed to submit to ethnic cleansing? Guy tearing down statues, disenfranchising minorities, suppressing native languages, and destroying books: "They were gonna ethnically cleanse us!"
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 23:49 |
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Phigs posted:I guess choice is too strong. "Option" maybe. Zelensky still had the option to turn away from the West even if he woulda gotten a but thou must. maybe in the sense of having a choice between two paths that led to the same destination.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 23:50 |
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Nix Panicus posted:Guy tearing down statues, disenfranchising minorities, suppressing native languages, and destroying books: "They were gonna ethnically cleanse us!" Some may justify it too by saying there is another state, perhaps even an ethno state, where that group exists.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 23:53 |
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Tankbuster posted:the denim jeans were being made behind the iron curtain. It just didn't have the mystique of levi's. Still not sure any of this mattered at the time or was just bullshit post facto rationalizing.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 23:54 |
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Ardennes posted:That was according to Al Jazeera. Eh, I remember the multiple times everyone was banging their fists about encirclement. I think its worthwhile to wait a week or two before pronouncing a general collapse, but its not great though. I still think this war hell grinds out through next year
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 23:55 |
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Tankbuster posted:the denim jeans were being made behind the iron curtain. It just didn't have the mystique of levi's. I just bought what I think might be my last pair of 501s. They're so thin now compared to how they were just a few years ago, I am going to have to start investigating other brands with less cachet. Wish now that I hadn't thrown out my older, better made pairs
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 23:57 |
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Corky Romanovsky posted:Some may justify it too by saying there is another state, perhaps even an ethno state, where that group exists. Foreigners (who have lived here for generations) go home!
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 23:57 |
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Dokapon Findom posted:I just bought what I think might be my last pair of 501s. They're so thin now compared to how they were just a few years ago, I am going to have to start investigating other brands with less cachet. Wish now that I hadn't thrown out my older, better made pairs levis are suck and overpriced versus uniqlos (and i don't even buy them new)
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 23:58 |
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Nix Panicus posted:Foreigners (who have lived here for generations) go home! time to send the americans back to england
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 23:59 |
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Palladium posted:levis are suck and overpriced versus uniqlos (and i don't even buy them new) Hmm... I already buy Uniqlo socks exclusively now. Maybe I'll them out
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 00:10 |
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I think letting a bunch of Actual Nazis shoot up your neighborhoods of ethnic russians and just not doing anything about it points to the kind of position the state of Ukraine was in. The Ukrainian people may have not had a say in the matter but the oligarch funded nazis got their way and the Ukrainian state picked sides with them so. I think you can be rooting a little for them to lose.
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 00:13 |
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Zodium posted:time to send the americans back to england
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 00:13 |
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The moral dimensions don’t really look at history too which isn’t surprising. Ukraine basically never left shock therapy after 1991, obviously there’s the sociological perspective that led to the civil war in 2014, but the oligarchs in Ukraine were never put to heel as they were in Russia. the economy was a disaster; the civil war kicked off because of IMF negotiations, due to Ukraine effectively being broke, that would have severely hampered Ukraines working class the east being industrial would not benefit from the spreadsheet economy as the western side would, especially with the emphasis on IT outsourcing and huge land leasing for agribusiness. it’s not surprising that the liberals in western Ukraine found a common friend with the nationalists that were driven by OUN idealogy it didn’t take a whole lot of effort from the west to even foster this; as even Russians will tell you, the NGOs don’t “create” movements as much as simply fund existing tensions. Russian influence is much less effective at this because their funding is either blatant to the point of it being artificial, or completely ineffective to compete with the west (even simple things like setting up exchange programs to study in elite universities don’t happen)
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 00:16 |
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/29/debris-from-north-korean-missile-found-in-kharkiv-say-un-sanctions-monitors Debris from North Korean missile found in Kharkiv, say UN sanctions monitors quote:The debris from a missile that landed in the Ukrainian city of Kharkiv on 2 January was from a North Korean Hwasong-11 series ballistic missile, UN sanctions monitors told a security council committee in a report seen by Reuters.
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 00:26 |
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Time for everyone in this war to chill out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTnxFgmQLKc
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 00:27 |
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Dokapon Findom posted:Time for everyone in this war to chill out based
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 00:28 |
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Officer Sandvich posted:Debris from North Korean missile found in Kharkiv, say UN sanctions monitors have they called the missile manager
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 00:36 |
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https://civil.ge/archives/602348 Bidzina Ivanishvili Backs Anti-Western Policies, Threatens Repressions quote:Key points of Ivanishvili’s speech:
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 00:54 |
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Dokapon Findom posted:I just bought what I think might be my last pair of 501s. They're so thin now compared to how they were just a few years ago, I am going to have to start investigating other brands with less cachet. Wish now that I hadn't thrown out my older, better made pairs Would you blame that on material conditions?
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 00:58 |
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Officer Sandvich posted:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/29/debris-from-north-korean-missile-found-in-kharkiv-say-un-sanctions-monitors Who gives a gently caress about that embargo? What are even the repercussions for Russia breaking it? More sanctions? Lmao
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 01:00 |
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Spergin Morlock posted:the ukrainian state chose to align with russia 10 years ago and got a color revolution for their trouble The Ukrainians were voting for Russian aligned presidents and ten the western NGOs pushed enough BS to elect a pro-west government. That government sucked so drat hard the Russia aligned guy got voted back in and then got color-revolutionized.
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 01:27 |
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Officer Sandvich posted:https://civil.ge/archives/602348 The west is so drat angry against a country who still want to join them through the EU.
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 01:28 |
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Regarde Aduck posted:Who gives a gently caress about that embargo? What are even the repercussions for Russia breaking it? More sanctions? Lmao Another success for the "paint myself into a corner" brand of aggressive foreign policy.
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 01:30 |
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Nix Panicus posted:Eh, I remember the multiple times everyone was banging their fists about encirclement. I think its worthwhile to wait a week or two before pronouncing a general collapse, but its not great though. I still think this war hell grinds out through next year The encirclements are small scale, and it isn't a general collapse, but at the same time the Ukrainians haven't seemingly been able to catch a break since the fall of Avdiivka and the farther the frontline spreads out that is simply a longer line they have to defend with a shrinking pool of available forces. It is a slow burn still, but not only is this just with the forces the Russians have in the field but they clearly have large amounts of troops sitting around. Honestly, whether the war grinds on for another year or not really seems up to the Russians and how they play it. They are controlling the tempo. They could drag it out or find a more decisive conclusion but it seems really it is about how they are going to play it. ------------ It is good question what the long-term plan is for Georgia regarding the EU because it seems like the current party (Georgian Dream) is holding in the pools, while there is little way for the US not to be vindictive (and therefore the EU) against them by passing a law about NGOs. While Russia would be find with joining the Eurasian Union, they don't seem close to be interested. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 01:35 on Apr 30, 2024 |
# ? Apr 30, 2024 01:30 |
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supersnowman posted:The Ukrainians were voting for Russian aligned presidents and ten the western NGOs pushed enough BS to elect a pro-west government. That government sucked so drat hard the Russia aligned guy got voted back in and then got color-revolutionized. The Orange Revolution really was a kind of speed run of watching promised dreams not be fulfilled
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 01:37 |
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dk2m posted:The moral dimensions don’t really look at history too which isn’t surprising. Ukraine basically never left shock therapy after 1991, obviously there’s the sociological perspective that led to the civil war in 2014, but the oligarchs in Ukraine were never put to heel as they were in Russia. the economy was a disaster; the civil war kicked off because of IMF negotiations, due to Ukraine effectively being broke, that would have severely hampered Ukraines working class But have you stopped to consider thats all fake culture war bullshit stoked by the media for votes and there were no significant divides between the east and west in Ukraine that could lead to a civil war? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exJ024Zdzdk
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 01:40 |
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Yeah that was the irony, there was already a color revolution beforehand, it just completely backfired due to the economic policies at place (even before the 2008 crash), the Ukrainian public wanted legitimately another option and a "override" was put into place. Btw, at late as a poll from January 24 to February 1st 2014, Yanukovych was still comfortably leading in the polls. The entire country hadn't "turned against him" but the opposition decided to take to the streets rather than the ballot box. In 2014, there wasn't a general political or social split in Ukraine despite the hardcore nationalists in Lvov. The tragedy of Ukraine was about the power and influence of the United States and its ability to brute force the destruction of a country for its own goals. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 01:49 on Apr 30, 2024 |
# ? Apr 30, 2024 01:46 |
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Sometimes you just have to overthrow a free and fair election in order to save democracy
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 01:51 |
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Perhaps it's too early to say, but it looks like it will be a northwest push aimed at cutting the highway between Kostiantynivka and Pokrovsk.
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 01:56 |
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OhFunny posted:Perhaps it's too early to say, but it looks like it will be a northwest push aimed at cutting the highway between Kostiantynivka and Pokrovsk. The farther the Russians push outward the more options come into play pretty much in every direction, but arguably they could simply avoid some of the worst of the fighting in the north just by going around it and more or less the same in the south.
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 02:01 |
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democracy is about saving the people from themselves because they still have some growing up to do. they don’t know that no bread and no circuses is what free and transparent society looks like and can’t be trusted to make the mature decisions
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 02:10 |
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Nix Panicus posted:But have you stopped to consider thats all fake culture war bullshit stoked by the media for votes and there were no significant divides between the east and west in Ukraine that could lead to a civil war? God selling the Union building fire as an accident is vile, and just loving completely underselling how loving greasy and vile the US has been in this whole thing is loving awful. loving arch-liberal from hell. MinutePirateBug has issued a correction as of 02:30 on Apr 30, 2024 |
# ? Apr 30, 2024 02:23 |
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Sometimes buildings just catch fire and burn and its nobody's fault except for Russia
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 02:38 |
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It's pretty interesting to see how one of the original Donbass seperatists saw Yanukovych. Here's an excerpt from Pavel Gubarev's "Torch of New Russia" - there's a very, very unkind portrait of Yanukovych that I haven't encountered until this memoirquote:Corporate raiding and the redistribution of wealth has been the norm since independence, but it became a bacchanalia of expropriation under Yanukovich. His crime family tore a great deal down. In the Donbass there was a struggle for control of the most profitable coal fields as well as the coal preparations plants. Yanukovich’s clan seized property in western Ukraine too. They cut down entire beech and oak forests owned by others for export to Europe. In Europe, you can get three thousand euros for a cubic meter of such woods. They even seized ports, such as Ilichyovsk near Odessa. Bold emphasis mine. Sorry for the long wall of text, but this is a really fascinating little book.
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 02:39 |
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Nix Panicus posted:Sometimes buildings just catch fire and burn and its nobody's fault except for Russia When he was like Oh loving Clinton was such a great consensus builder, so poor Clinton let the loving French prevent us from stopping the Rwandan genocide I wanted to just loving ARGH! loving gently caress this loving gently caress fucker gently caress.
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 02:46 |
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Ardennes posted:The encirclements are small scale, and it isn't a general collapse, but at the same time the Ukrainians haven't seemingly been able to catch a break since the fall of Avdiivka and the farther the frontline spreads out that is simply a longer line they have to defend with a shrinking pool of available forces. It would seem like the Russians have been content with cauldroning AFU groupings and then just shelling them on the way out as opposed to actual encirclement. Can't blame them after the mess that was Azovstal.
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 02:56 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 08:05 |
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thank u reader context im happy to learn that putin has not actually declared war on furries
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 03:07 |