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blowingupcasinos
Feb 21, 2006
If by "clicky" you mean Cherry Blues, White Alps, or Bucking Spring switches (please see this), then you won't find a keyboard for $50. I've seen the Adesso Mechanical Gaming Keyboard for $65 on Amazon. Razer's Black Widow goes for $80. If you want the built-in palm rest I've only heard of the Steel Series 7G, but that's $150.

I suggest getting a mechanical keyboard and palm rest separately because mechanical keyboards are meant to last for *a long time*. The palm rest will at least wear-and-look-gross and more probably be unusable long before your keyswitches break down.

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moron izzard
Nov 17, 2006

Grimey Drawer

blowingupcasinos posted:

Is there any other place to order Keycaps for Leopold boards? Google does not help :(

They use cherry mx switches, so they will be compatible* with any other keyboards that use cherry switches. I used obook to buy ones off taobao (chinese auction site) - theres a guide around on geekhack that gives you search terms (just searching for KBC works pretty well). Elitekeyboards still have some replacement keys as well I think.

I bought some cool engraved ones - http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=9029697112 for home keys and http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=7440137413 for everything else (hopefully that one actually gets ordered/shipped, the last seller didn't respond)

*leopold have their lock lights underneath the keys - those will obviously be blocked if you go for regular keycaps. Keycap sets made for ducky keyboards (also cherry mx) have the little window if you really want it. Also since they are using a different stabilizer for the space bar, you aren't going to be getting a compatible one with any of those keycap sets.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

spasticColon posted:

I want a new gaming keyboard with "clicky" keys and a palmrest so does anyone have suggestions? I would prefer not to spend over $50 if possible.

Edit: This one perhaps?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109191

Edit 2: I don't want a keyboard with soft or mushy keys.

These are going to be mushy if you are looking for model-m click-ability. They click, but it isn't a switch, it's the plastic impacting plastic.

fyi

Tedronai66
Aug 24, 2006
Better to Reign in Hell...

blowingupcasinos posted:

If by "clicky" you mean Cherry Blues, White Alps, or Bucking Spring switches (please see this), then you won't find a keyboard for $50. I've seen the Adesso Mechanical Gaming Keyboard for $65 on Amazon. Razer's Black Widow goes for $80. If you want the built-in palm rest I've only heard of the Steel Series 7G, but that's $150.

I suggest getting a mechanical keyboard and palm rest separately because mechanical keyboards are meant to last for *a long time*. The palm rest will at least wear-and-look-gross and more probably be unusable long before your keyswitches break down.

Echoing this. The mechanical switches are worth the extra money. I wish I could use them at work. Right now the Blackwidow (non ultimate) is going for ~$73 on amazon: http://goo.gl/JZ9TR

Senator Woofington
Aug 1, 2009

by Ozmaugh
So what is the general opinion on das keyboard? I really wanted to get a filco but it appears they are discontinued :( . I miss my crunchy mech keyboard :(

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



I had no idea people still loved giant clicky keys. While I have been in school I have fallen in love with laptop keyboards and how much more quicker I type on them. Finally picked up a desktop equivalent with the Logitech Illuminated Keyboard.



Super sleek and so much quicker to type on. And I am not missing the loud clacks from my old Saitek keyboard.

NickPancakes
Oct 27, 2004

Damnit, somebody get me a tissue.

^^^
Sounds like you've never typed on a actual mechanical keyboard, your Saitek's 'clack' was from your key bottoming out, not a mechanical switch being activated. Saiteks are rubberdomes and feel like mush, not clean and tactile like a Cherry-switch based keyboard is.

Senator Woofington posted:

So what is the general opinion on das keyboard? I really wanted to get a filco but it appears they are discontinued :( . I miss my crunchy mech keyboard :(

I think people had some technical issues with one or some of the models before, but I think those have been ironed out. Still, if you wanted a filco, why not get a Leopold?

NickPancakes fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Mar 9, 2011

peggle u faggot
Jan 26, 2007

by Fistgrrl

Senator Woofington posted:

So what is the general opinion on das keyboard? I really wanted to get a filco but it appears they are discontinued :( . I miss my crunchy mech keyboard :(

I got a Das Model S before I splurged on a Filco from china.

I still love it and use it at work, while the Filco sits at home. The keys seem a little clackier on the Das which I think is from the keys being made from thinner plastic.

Downsides of the Das:
  1. After about 4 months of heavy use the ink is starting to rub off of frequently used keys. You can see what happens after extreme wear here it's not pretty.
  2. The USB ports on the right side are kind of inconvenient if you keep your mouse close to the right side of the keyboard.
Overall though, the typing experience on the Das is almost identical to the Filco I have (Brown switches on both).

Zhentar
Sep 28, 2003

Brilliant Master Genius

bloodynose posted:

Still, if you wanted a filco, why not get a Leopold?

No num keypad :(

spasticColon
Sep 22, 2004

In loving memory of Donald Pleasance

Tedronai66 posted:

Echoing this. The mechanical switches are worth the extra money. I wish I could use them at work. Right now the Blackwidow (non ultimate) is going for ~$73 on amazon: http://goo.gl/JZ9TR

So this is the cheapest mechanical switch gaming keyboard I can get? What about a regular mechanical switch keyboard? Are those any cheaper?

bacon!
Dec 10, 2003

The fierce urgency of now

spasticColon posted:

So this is the cheapest mechanical switch gaming keyboard I can get? What about a regular mechanical switch keyboard? Are those any cheaper?

I have the Adesso mentioned earlier in the thread, which is about $10 cheaper. Cherry MX blues. Could not be happier, other than that I never use the numpad which is why I preordered the Leopold 10keyless.

moron izzard
Nov 17, 2006

Grimey Drawer

Senator Woofington posted:

So what is the general opinion on das keyboard? I really wanted to get a filco but it appears they are discontinued :( . I miss my crunchy mech keyboard :(

Zhentar posted:

No num keypad :(

The keyboard company sells filco on amazon for a similar price to EK (if you have free shipping on amazon vs the extra $15 at EK). They will have full size back in stock soon i guess. Elitekeyboards will probably have full size leopold in a month as well.

spasticColon
Sep 22, 2004

In loving memory of Donald Pleasance
The reason I want a mechanical or clicky keyboard is that my Saitek eclipse's WASD keys pretty much wore out after 4-5 years of heavy use. Will a keyboard with mechanical switches last longer and have better responsiveness for games?

Gay Nudist Dad
Dec 12, 2006

asshole on a scooter

Vintersorg posted:

I had no idea people still loved giant clicky keys. While I have been in school I have fallen in love with laptop keyboards and how much more quicker I type on them. Finally picked up a desktop equivalent with the Logitech Illuminated Keyboard.



Super sleek and so much quicker to type on. And I am not missing the loud clacks from my old Saitek keyboard.

This seems to get praised a lot, is it pretty much the best flat-key keyboard out right now? This Macally Mac-lookin' thing looks pretty appealing but I haven't found much about it. The Logitech seems big, kind of expensive, and I really don't need lighty-up keys.

I'm all about laptop-style keys, minimum travel distance 4 lyfe

spasticColon
Sep 22, 2004

In loving memory of Donald Pleasance
My only beef with laptop keyboards or laptop style keys is that I'm afraid I'm going to break the drat thing or make a key come off if I press down too hard. When I type on my laptop I'm always very careful when I type because it seems so fragile.:ohdear:

I'm looking at one of those Adesso keyboards but are they good for gaming?

spasticColon fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Mar 10, 2011

pienipple
Mar 20, 2009

That's wrong!

Gay Nudist Dad posted:

This seems to get praised a lot, is it pretty much the best flat-key keyboard out right now? This Macally Mac-lookin' thing looks pretty appealing but I haven't found much about it. The Logitech seems big, kind of expensive, and I really don't need lighty-up keys.

I'm all about laptop-style keys, minimum travel distance 4 lyfe

The logitech illuminated is quite nice, and you can get them very cheaply on best buy's auction site: bestbuy.dtdeals.com

McClanahan
May 29, 2009

Gay Nudist Dad posted:

I'm all about laptop-style keys, minimum travel distance 4 lyfe

I prefer a full size keyboard for most stuff, but I use one of these standalone ThinkPad keyboards at work quite a bit. It works out very well when I don't have room for anything larger.

e: Reviews on amazon don't look so encouraging. Dunno, the shift key never sticks for me.

McClanahan fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Mar 10, 2011

Lolcano Eruption
Oct 29, 2007
Volcano of LOL.

spasticColon posted:

My only beef with laptop keyboards or laptop style keys is that I'm afraid I'm going to break the drat thing or make a key come off if I press down too hard. When I type on my laptop I'm always very careful when I type because it seems so fragile.:ohdear:

I'm looking at one of those Adesso keyboards but are they good for gaming?

What do you mean by gaming keyboard? Are you looking for NKRO? or macro buttons?

Gay Nudist Dad
Dec 12, 2006

asshole on a scooter

McClanahan posted:

I prefer a full size keyboard for most stuff, but I use one of these standalone ThinkPad keyboards at work quite a bit. It works out very well when I don't have room for anything larger.

e: Reviews on amazon don't look so encouraging. Dunno, the shift key never sticks for me.

I really don't need mouse buttons, a pointer nubbin', and 4" of wrist rest. In fact the wrist rest part would really get in my way. Otherwise I have heard good things.

I don't ask for much in a keyboard: I don't need pointing devices, a wrist rest, lighting, macro, NKRO (just standard FPS shift/ctrl+WASD+maybe C or something), a USB hub, do not want wireless, and don't care about media keys. I'd use them if they're there, but get by without. I just want a reasonable layout and solid short-travel keys.

Why do clacky mechanical keyboarders have all the fun? :(

Gay Nudist Dad fucked around with this message at 08:51 on Mar 10, 2011

powderific
May 13, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I've never used that particular macally keyboard, but I have used one of their older models with flat keys and liked it. I'm all about the mechanical switch stuff now though.

ndrz
Oct 31, 2003

Preordered a blank keycap cherry browns.

Will compare to my Filco blues when it comes in

spasticColon
Sep 22, 2004

In loving memory of Donald Pleasance

Lolcano Eruption posted:

What do you mean by gaming keyboard? Are you looking for NKRO? or macro buttons?

I just want something that's durable and responsive enough for games but I don't want to pay through the nose for one. And I don't want switches to wear out like on my Saitek eclipse.

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

Gay Nudist Dad posted:

This seems to get praised a lot, is it pretty much the best flat-key keyboard out right now? This Macally Mac-lookin' thing looks pretty appealing but I haven't found much about it. The Logitech seems big, kind of expensive, and I really don't need lighty-up keys.

I'm all about laptop-style keys, minimum travel distance 4 lyfe

Microsoft Arc is awesome if you don't need a numpad or full arrow keys. Can be found for cheap on amazon too.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_i=507846

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
Loving my DAS Keyboard Professional S, but there are two major issues with appearance. (And only appearance, thankfully).

The first and foremost problem is the very glossy appeal. When you first unbox the keyboard, it looks like it was just made in heaven with the gloss. Well, now that its out of its sterile heaven packaging, its going to be exposed to the sins of your desktop. I'm pretty good about keeping the desktop clean, and I don't think I possess any terrible sanitary habits. But one thing this keyboard is good at is making itself look terrible. It wanted to be pretty, sorta like the tomboy at school who wears makeup for prom, but then it just comes out looking terrible and you wondered what was wrong with the original look in the first place. Smudges and dust show up very quickly, and unless you dedicate alot of time to cleaning it after every use, it can be an eyesore at times. Id rather have a dull keyboard or something less flashy. Even though the DAS looks beautiful when polished and clean, it just gets dirty way too fast. Also, dust.

Another problem, as mentioned earlier, is the lettering on the keys. While its cool that you can feel the lettering, its prone to dirt and colour changes. WASD and the nearby keys have a bit darker colouring to them. It's kinda gross, but ultimately unavoidable. That and some of the white is chipping off.

Other than those two things its an amazing keyboard, would buy it again. Small question though:

How big a difference is there between cherry browns and cherry blues? My original goal was to get this as a blue version, but I copped out last minute and chose the brown. How much am I missing out on, and would there be a large enough difference between the browns and blues?

KingEup
Nov 18, 2004
I am a REAL ADDICT
(to threadshitting)


Please ask me for my google inspired wisdom on shit I know nothing about. Actually, you don't even have to ask.

Gay Nudist Dad posted:

This seems to get praised a lot, is it pretty much the best flat-key keyboard out right now?

I have one of these



It has seriously ultra low profile.

EvilMuppet
Jul 29, 2006


Good night catte thread, give them all many patts. I'm sorry,
I just got a Razer mechanical for home and love it. Now I want a mech for work as well but I can't have something as loud as that, co-workers would kill me. I've seen the DAS 'silent' one but that's quite a bit more than I wanted to pay for a work board.

Is there something that feels similar to the Blackwidow but is nowhere near as noisy or pricey?

Elos
Jan 8, 2009

Just found out the old keyboard I had lying around as a backup is a Dell AT102W with what looks like black alp switches. It's old and dirty so the keys feel kinda loose and whatnot but it feels pretty drat awesome after years of sciccor swtiches. So I started reading more about keyboards and now it looks like my next one has to be mechanical. drat hard to find good ones in a SWE/FIN layout though. Here are the choices I came ended up with:

Razer Blackwidow - Looks like poo poo, has that stupid macro key row on the left and no n-key rollover. Pretty cheap though.

Filco Majestouch - I'd have to wait for a month and pay up the rear end for this but I hear it's definitely worth it.

Das Keyboard - I'd have to wait until May for a blue switched euro layout ultimate. No SWE/FIN layouts available for the professionals.

Cherry G80-3000 - Only US, UK and DE layouts readily available. Maybe if I found a compatible set of blank keys...

Decisions, decisions.

pienipple
Mar 20, 2009

That's wrong!

KingEup posted:

I have one of these



It has seriously ultra low profile.

I want one of thoooose~ :swoon:

I was in my storage trailer looking for a mickey mouse cable and found half a dozen buckling spring Model Ms (:argh: to the rubber dome M!) I should clean and sell them so I can justify paying 80 bucks for the K750.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
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KingEup posted:

I have one of these



It has seriously ultra low profile.
Is there a version of that with a cord and without the goddamn solar panels so I can just have an otherwise normal keyboard, just with laptop-style keys? Almost everything I've seen has combined "keys I want" with "unnecessary, money-sucking extra features."

The only exception is the keyboard I'm currently using, which is a cheap Microsoft model with low-profile keys. It was great, until the keys started failing after 6 months for no good reason (I didn't spill water on it or drop it or anything). Print Screen is completely dead, the left Windows key is mostly dead, and the Escape key randomly cuts out.

I don't mind spending some money, but all I really want is low profile keys and a reasonable quality build. I don't need wireless, lights, macro keys, or even NKR, really. A laptop keyboard with the normal (not compact) layout and nothing more, that would be the ideal.

pienipple
Mar 20, 2009

That's wrong!
The Logitech Illuminated is basically that with a cord and without solar panels. The keys are slightly different, fullsize laptop style keys instead of chiclet style.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD
You don't mention what you mean by 'laptop style'. Chiclet keys, or full-size?
You can get the Apple keyboard which is ultra-low profile, chiclet keys and corded.

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB110LL/A

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

~Coxy posted:

You don't mention what you mean by 'laptop style'. Chiclet keys, or full-size?
You can get the Apple keyboard which is ultra-low profile, chiclet keys and corded.

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB110LL/A

If by "chiclet keys" you mean keys that are really flat and when you push them down they travel about 1 millimeter, then yes, that's what I'm looking for. I just want those keys in the standard layout. The idea being to have a comfortable layout with the least amount of force required to activate the keys.

shrughes
Oct 11, 2008

(call/cc call/cc)
The Topre Realforce with variable key weighting seems worse than the one with consistent 55g key weighting. The variable key board could stand to be a consistent 45g instead. The outer keys like A and Q are on the edge of being too light and too linear. If you're used to heavy keyboards like a Model M, or if you just have strong pinkies, you probably would prefer the consistent 55g key weighting.

shrughes fucked around with this message at 08:42 on Mar 17, 2011

pienipple
Mar 20, 2009

That's wrong!

Che Delilas posted:

If by "chiclet keys" you mean keys that are really flat and when you push them down they travel about 1 millimeter, then yes, that's what I'm looking for. I just want those keys in the standard layout. The idea being to have a comfortable layout with the least amount of force required to activate the keys.

Chiclet keys are the ones like the apple keyboard or the solar logitech where each key is in it's own little hole in the case and the sides aren't really sloped.

Regular laptop keys are just the standard laptop style very shallow keys with a short travel. The Illuminated is like this and very comfortable (I wish I hadn't accidentally killed it with a glass of OJ :().

admiraldennis
Jul 22, 2003

I am the stone that builder refused
I am the visual
The inspiration
That made lady sing the blues
http://cgi.ebay.com/Ducky-keyboard-year-tiger-Blue-Cherry-PBT-/260742224193?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3cb5729941#ht_2720wt_1141

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pokecapn
Oct 17, 2003

yeah, galo sengen

Che Delilas posted:

I don't mind spending some money, but all I really want is low profile keys and a reasonable quality build. I don't need wireless, lights, macro keys, or even NKR, really. A laptop keyboard with the normal (not compact) layout and nothing more, that would be the ideal.

Apple keyboards are wireless, but otherwise they're exactly what you want.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
edit: redundant question

Full Circle
Feb 20, 2008

Just a heads up for anybody considering getting a Das Keyboard: they don't seem to advertise it, but they offer an educational discount of 20% off regular and 15% off refurbished keyboards. I just ordered my model s professional silent for 94.00 shipped. To get the coupon code you just need to email their support, then when they request it attach a scanned copy of your school ID.

Mike the TV
Jan 14, 2008

Ninety-nine ninety-nine ninety-nine

Pillbug

pienipple posted:

I want one of thoooose~ :swoon:

I was in my storage trailer looking for a mickey mouse cable and found half a dozen buckling spring Model Ms (:argh: to the rubber dome M!) I should clean and sell them so I can justify paying 80 bucks for the K750.

It's only 60 at Best Buy.

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glompix
Jan 19, 2004

propane grill-pilled
Woah, a keyboard thread! Just got into mechanical keyboards a few months ago, and have a Blackwidow at home and Filco with brown switches at work.

Let's talk about palmrests too. What kind of palmrests are you goons using? I picked this (option 19) up for using at work. It feels and looks pretty loving fancy. I need something for at home too, though. Might just get another one, but it'd be cool to see what else people like.

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