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theadder posted:a lecture from on high lol
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Suspicious Dish posted:I wanted them to allow users to install things at their own legal risk. This is what other distributions like Debian do.
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 00:42 |
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actually debian is poo poo
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 00:44 |
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agreed, but that doesn't contradict anything i said
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 00:48 |
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Soricidus posted:you know your desktop linux is in trouble when it's less user-friendly than debian (which is the best os, but god i'm glad i don't have to set it up again) apt-get is pretty nice, in my limited experience
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 00:50 |
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anyone who says they like linux actually only likes the bounre shell
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 00:51 |
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:anyone who says they like linux actually only likes the bounre shell is korn shell still popular?
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 00:52 |
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I really like Debian and just put Jessie on my laptop yesterday. What specifically about it is bad? Other than the nonfree firmware nonsense.
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 00:53 |
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its still the default shell in aix. well at least in <6
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 00:53 |
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pram posted:its still the default shell in aix. well at least in <6 aix still exists? i used to "own" a quad-alpha digital unix box. loved that thing
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 00:54 |
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yes aix still exists and it isnt even that obscure. see: any legacy enterprise poo poo that needs DB2
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 00:56 |
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pram posted:yes aix still exists and it isnt even that obscure. see: any legacy enterprise poo poo that needs DB2 oh, yeah. db2 makes sense now i used to work at a place that had a machine named "db2". it was running sql server. always bothered me
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 00:58 |
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ksh is a thing among refugees from solaris too. i know a couple of graybeards who still use csh, god only knows why.
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 01:01 |
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theres a 'good' reason solaris and aix were shipped with ksh and not the gnu coreutils
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 01:04 |
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and it has to do with one weird guy with a beard
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 01:05 |
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Soricidus posted:i know a couple of graybeards who still use csh, god only knows why. I think csh had autocomplete first and is easier to get working than bash on Solaris. Also it's not ksh.
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 01:06 |
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i didn't know david korn had a beard
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 01:07 |
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bash is ok
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 01:08 |
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Soricidus posted:you know your desktop linux is in trouble when it's less user-friendly than debian (which is the best os, but god i'm glad i don't have to set it up again)
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 01:19 |
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Soricidus posted:ksh is a thing among refugees from solaris too. i remember situations where csh was an improvement over the alternatives
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 01:22 |
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our servers default to tcsh despite having zsh installed, because gently caress knows why
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 01:43 |
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Soricidus posted:ksh is a thing among refugees from solaris too. ksh unironically owns bones. it is a ksh93 vs ksh88 thing. people who curse ksh have just been using a 1980s version, or are jackasses. the att svr4 ksh, the '93 edition, will sing dance and do all kinds of cool poo poo. it is a very nice shell, literally better than bash. Soricidus posted:i know a couple of graybeards who still use csh, god only knows why. tcsh, the updated csh, is actually really really nice as an interactive shell. as a login shell, there is absolutely nothing bash does that tcsh doesn't. nobody uses actual 1980s csh. (if you find an original csh user, shoot him and put him out of his misery) Notorious b.s.d. fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Aug 16, 2014 |
# ? Aug 16, 2014 01:50 |
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IPvSH6T posted:our servers default to tcsh despite having zsh installed, because gently caress knows why lol @ having interactive shells on servers
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 01:51 |
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is linux still unusable poo poo for idiots
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 01:53 |
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Bloody posted:is linux still unusable poo poo for idiots yes
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 01:53 |
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Bloody posted:is linux still unusable poo poo for idiots on the contrary, it's unusable poo poo for very important people
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 01:53 |
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debian has debootstrap which owns a whole heck of a lot imo all distros should have a one-line "infect this partition with a linux" command
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 02:16 |
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Bloody posted:yes im afraid so bloody
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 02:17 |
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Bloody posted:is linux still unusable poo poo for idiots
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 02:21 |
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 02:30 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:lol @ having interactive shells on servers wait how do you do stuff in your servers then
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 02:40 |
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Symbolic Butt posted:wait how do you do stuff in your servers then prediction: the answer will be ansible/chef/puppet/something like that
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 02:43 |
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Sassafras posted:Change your shell to fish, you fools! i tried this once but missed ctrl-r too much
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 02:46 |
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reverse-i-search kicks rear end
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 02:49 |
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Finally, a command line shell for the 90s lol
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 03:51 |
fish hell
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 03:52 |
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prefect posted:prediction: the answer will be ansible/chef/puppet/something like that yeah just let me use puppet to run tcpdump debugs im sure that will work great
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 14:16 |
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Suspicious Dish posted:I wanted them to allow users to install things at their own legal risk. This is what other distributions like Debian do. did they not get the memo that fluendo forked over money in 2005 and now everyone can have mp3 or did that in reality have onerous strings attached or smth for redistribution - - oh lmao apparently it did oh well apparently wikipedia thinks the patents are all expired around 2015-2017 anyway
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 16:34 |
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im the insistence on a spergmode license that results in an unusable operating system because once upon a time printer drivers
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 16:37 |
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Progressive JPEG posted:oh well apparently wikipedia thinks the patents are all expired around 2015-2017 anyway then there's just AAC, H.264, that other MPEG4 profile nobody uses anymore since H.264 exists, VC-1, WMA, and whatever is coming next like H.265
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