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Carthag Tuek posted:Catholicism was illegal at the time (with an exception for soldiers hired from Germany, but they had their own chaplain in Copenhagen). Can you check the records in Copenhagen? Would they have been willing to have secretly baptized people and such? I'm more coming from the Irish history where Catholicism was basically outlawed during English rule and you will occasionally stumble across lists of baptisms hidden in old kid's school ledgers and such as keeping such records was illegal. I also had Irish soldiers for Britain who once they left service suddenly 'converted' to Catholicism and married Irish Catholic women in the new world colonies where they were granted land.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but that wouldn't be possible, logistically, legally, or socially. I got a reply from a professor of onomastics though! Turns out the name is a diminutive of a Frisian name that ultimately derives from a venacular version of Saint Vitus. Based on the ages of the people, the first person carrying the name would have come to Denmark c. 1600 at the latest, which is before all extant church records except for I think 5 parishes (they only became required in 1645, and many have been lost through the ages). Possibly he came here even several generations before that, but who knows. The pertinent area of Denmark is readily accessible from the Frisian lands by both land and sea, so it wouldn't be strange for a Frisian to end up there. I think that pretty much wraps up this search 
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Jan 21, 2022 17:13
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It turns out a Danish officer fought with Frisians against the Spanish in the 1580s. He came from an area very near where my guys show up (like 15 miles), so I'm thinking he brought some back.
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Jan 24, 2022 19:25
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Whoa, just came across the 1670 burial of a man "who is said to be able to change into a wolf. The same is said of his father." Sadly not related 
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Jan 28, 2022 21:30
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Carthag Tuek posted:Whoa, just came across the 1670 burial of a man "who is said to be able to change into a wolf. The same is said of his father." Sadly not related Oh come on now, you can't just post about it and not show us the picture of the record  In unrelated news, it seems I can apply for German citizenship through my great-grandparents (they were both still German citizens when they married in America and my great-grandfather didn't naturalize until well after all his kids were born). Woo German passport here I come.
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Jan 29, 2022 00:10
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Oh duh, attached here Also: aber doch, wie toll!
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Jan 29, 2022 02:04
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Oracle posted:Oh come on now, you can't just post about it and not show us the picture of the record My German line came over too long ago for me to qualify :/ Born after 1949 but before 1975 would be my dad, but even his great grandfather was born in America, much less his dad and grandpa.
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Jan 29, 2022 17:34
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:My German line came over too long ago for me to qualify :/ Yeah that line was my most recent and only 20th century immigrants. Everyone else came at latest 1880s earliest uh... 1500s (French-Canadians and Colonists).
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i wish i could help
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Sweet, just got some great photos of a chandelier that was donated to a Swedish church in 1692 by a brother of my great-8 grandfather, which has an engraving mentioning my great-9 grandparents. Super fast too, I wrote them last night & got them shortly before lunch!
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We're redoing our garden and deciding what plants to plant. We have a small dog. We're interested in planting inkberry (nkberry ilex glabra), but I've found some websites (https://www.pawsdogdaycare.com/toxic-and-non-toxic-plants/inkberry) say its toxic for dogs... but it turns out like every shrub and bush is toxic for dogs. Our dog doesn't eat dropped berries, but theres a world in which she accidentally ingest something -- is this a terrible idea? Does anyone have recommendations for non-toxic shrubs/bush type plants?
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Upgrade posted:We're redoing our garden and deciding what plants to plant. We have a small dog. We're interested in planting inkberry (nkberry ilex glabra), but I've found some websites (https://www.pawsdogdaycare.com/toxic-and-non-toxic-plants/inkberry) say its toxic for dogs... but it turns out like every shrub and bush is toxic for dogs. Our dog doesn't eat dropped berries, but theres a world in which she accidentally ingest something -- is this a terrible idea? Does anyone have recommendations for non-toxic shrubs/bush type plants? fwiw the abovementioned werewolves both died from eating inkberry
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I am so confused right now. on topic: anyone doing RootsWeb online? Work is killing me as usual.
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Upgrade posted:We're redoing our garden and deciding what plants to plant. We have a small dog. We're interested in planting inkberry (nkberry ilex glabra), but I've found some websites (https://www.pawsdogdaycare.com/toxic-and-non-toxic-plants/inkberry) say its toxic for dogs... but it turns out like every shrub and bush is toxic for dogs. Our dog doesn't eat dropped berries, but theres a world in which she accidentally ingest something -- is this a terrible idea? Does anyone have recommendations for non-toxic shrubs/bush type plants? You might try asking in a different thread.
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Mar 4, 2022 16:23
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Carthag Tuek posted:Sweet, just got some great photos of a chandelier that was donated to a Swedish church in 1692 by a brother of my great-8 grandfather, which has an engraving mentioning my great-9 grandparents. Super fast too, I wrote them last night & got them shortly before lunch! that is very cool
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Bilirubin posted:that is very cool yeah 😎 also the church is real pretty: 
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Love it! I would definitely church there. In the lastest missive from my mother, I have been documented as being a direct descendant of both William of Normandy AND Charlemagne. This on top of her work tying us to Erik Fairhair and bloody Odin and I'm basically giving up on her work past say 10 generations. Its going to take years to clear up this mess.
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Mar 7, 2022 16:54
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Bilirubin posted:Love it! I would definitely church there. Nod, smile, keep your own records to yourself.
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Mar 7, 2022 17:54
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Ok this is HUGE news for Americans given how many people's ancestors came through Ellis Island/Castle Island etc. Background: New York City has been a petty money grubbing bitch with regards to their records, locking them up and forcing you to go on site even when the records were digitized, charging people for access to said digitized (public!) records etc. Reclaim The Records has been (successfully!) suing them to release bits and pieces for years and now they've won a major concession. https://twitter.com/ReclaimTheRecs/status/1503850724190351360
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That is awesome!  e: https://twitter.com/GraveyardSnoop/status/1504093276349026304 Carthag Tuek fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Mar 17, 2022 |
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Mar 17, 2022 14:34
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I've been looking for this guy for a while, and think I may have found him in some conscription roles from a local estate. However, his age makes some odd jumps. I am fairly sure it is the same guy, as aside from hame, his place of birth is consistent as well as which farms he works on. The young men in the rolls are divided into groups (ages 14–17, ages 18–29, and ages 30–36). This I assume to keep track of future changes in available numbers, available reservists, etc. So my working theory is this: If drafting became possible when you reached partial age of majority at 18, it would be to his advantage to lie himself a couple years younger to postpone that (you'd have drills every Sunday, etc). Then once he was well past 18, it became better to go back to his true age of 25, as he'd reach full age of majority. Some snags: He married & signed a copyhold agreement at age 31 in 1756. Once a copyholder, he would leave the rolls, but he is not in the rolls 1751–1756. Possibly he could be outside the estate's jurisdiction, but that would be in breach of the Stavnsbånd unless he could get a pass from the lord of the manor. His marriage has not been found, but not all church registers from the estate's area have survived (crucially the one for the parish in which he works), so it is not easy to say where it actually happened. It would be in his wife's home parish, but I don't have any info about where she was from. So he might have been there (but then why is he not in the rolls?) or he might have been elsewhere (but then why was he allowed a pass?). Also it hinges on the keeper of the rolls not realizing his clever ruse... Carthag Tuek fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Mar 24, 2022 |
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Carthag Tuek posted:I've been looking for this guy for a while, and think I may have found him in some conscription roles from a local estate. However, his age makes some odd jumps. I am fairly sure it is the same guy, as aside from hame, his place of birth is consistent as well as which farms he works on. I'm sure there's always the perennial option of outright bribery to not appear/go with it...
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Oh yeah, that's also possible. If his father was one of the bigger farmers, he might've been able to do that.
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Mar 24, 2022 17:42
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THE 1950 US CENSUS IS PUBLIC!!!! Happy Genealogy Nerd Christmas, everybody! https://www.archives.gov/research/census/1950
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Oracle posted:THE 1950 US CENSUS IS PUBLIC!!!! Nice! Got some people to search for Also I found a dude in 1755 that might be my guy. He's called "N. N. Soldier", so maybe his absence 1751–54 can be explained by him being drafter — but he has the younger age 
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Apr 1, 2022 06:10
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Found my grandparents and my uncle! My dad missed the cutoff by a few months. I didn't learn anything new besides their address but new data confirming what I already had is still important.
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Apr 1, 2022 22:52
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gently caress yea data points are good poo poo also it can be very interesting to look over their neighbors & compare to 1940. one of my great grandfathers was the bootstraps-pull-up-ladder type, so for me & dad it's been illuminating to actually see the places he lived through the years. according to my dad, they were always projecting "rich", but none of them was ever rich, but they sure liked to pretend. dad told me it explained a lot, seeing all the places they lived like that
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Found my mom, they butchered her name, which is lol because its generic as poo poo. Maybe my halting English-speaking great-grandma gave the info. Or the census taker was barely literate. The search worked amazingly, picked city/state and typed in our last name and the very first page was them.
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Ok, so the amazon machine transcription is 98% garbage so I just got lucky as hell on my first search, the rest of my family isn't showing up at all by name. Don't rely on the transcription. Instead: check out an address book for your city where your relatives lived (or you can go by where they last lived in the 1940 census if you're pretty sure they didn't move. Most of mine didn't doing a quick cross-reference of address book for 1956 and results for 1940 census). if this isn't the case check with a living relative (my 72 yo cousin came in very handy!) Find their address in the address book. They're kind of weird so like 110 Main St. might be h110 Main (h is for house, a would be apt, etc, they'll be a key in the front of the address book that explains all this). Once you've got the address, look here at the enumeration maps for 1950 for the city, state (google maps works pretty well with lining up the 1950 map if do a search for their address, assuming the house wasn't destroyed to make way for a superhighway or similar, you can still reference cross streets to get in the right general area). Try and find the enumeration number for your address, the border are kind of hard to judge at times. Enter the enumeration number where your address is found. If that doesn't work, leave it blank hit search and page through the enumeration records til you find your number. Click on the population schedules button for that number. Page through old school page by page watching the last names. Be aware of misspellings and faded print and the like. So far this has worked to find most of my grandfather's sisters relatively quickly. Oracle fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Apr 3, 2022 |
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I've found this website pretty helpful for figuring out enumeration districts too: https://stevemorse.org/census/unified.html Also, this made me realize I didn't have the 1940 census for my husband's grandpa & his parents. Great grandpa was first generation Chinese American, and early documentation was inconsistent on which of two names was his surname. Searching by their address to find the ED and looking them up in the 1940 census found them, and it turns out the census taker split the difference and combined the two last name potentials for that year, which explains why it never turned up. What's interesting is in 1930 and earlier, great grandpa and the kids were listed as Chinese while great grandma (who was from eastern Europe) was listed as white. Starting in 1940, they're all listed as white.
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That is interesting. The census led me to ancestry’s yearbooks in a roundabout way and so far I’ve found three of my great aunts senior year book pictures from the 1930s. It’s kind of crazy how strong the genes are in some lines, a lot of them look exactly like at least one of their kids, and grandkids. I also learned that girls sports is a lot older than I thought; their high school had girls basketball, tennis, swim and football (not soccer) teams. And man did they take student council seriously, like sending delegates to other schools in other cities and stuff.
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Apr 5, 2022 04:48
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Carthag Tuek posted:That is awesome! I know Graveyard Scoop irl. nice coincidence! I'm so happy about the NYC records finally being available.
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nashona posted:I know Graveyard Scoop irl. nice coincidence! Hah, cool! Unrelated, but similarly genealogically blessed: https://twitter.com/HRAtkinson1/status/1512902643399725063
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If I could only be so lucky. I mean I've lucked out, don't get me wrong, I have family lines mentioned in various ubiquitous county history books that popped up like mushrooms in the late 19th c. in America., I've managed to trace my ancestors back to the 'old country' on just about every line, and I've ran into a few old photos and letters posted on ancestry accounts, but nothing really tangible like this.
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Yea, same. We've been pretty good about preserving stuff in the family, though. Lots of photos, many of them with names (sigh).
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Also, I'm looking into my great uncle who was buried in Singapore in May 1842. He was on a ship that is listed in papers as transporting Malwa opium in June 1842, near the end of the first opium war on August 29, 1842 (when China ceded Hong Kong to England). Wikipedia says Malwa opium was "a challenge to the monopoly of the British East India Company, which was supplying Bengal opium to China". Interesting times! Gotta read up on this more, hopefully I can find other lists of shipments.
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Mother has been working a little more reliably through the Swedish householders rolls, and has been learning a ton. Apparently a large number of our ancestors died in the 1834 cholera outbreak. Even way out in Dalsland. Scary stuff!
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I'm stuck on all my brick walls so I'm fleshing out more of my Colonial lines. So. Much. Endogamy. Once I get back far enough my tree starts intersecting, I have to make sure I'm not creating duplicate entries. The funnest part is where the Colonial side intersects the French-Canadian side thanks to an abduction/Indian raid! ENDOGACEPTION. I could join Daughters of the American Revolution like ten times over at least, its at the point I'm surprised when I don't find someone who served around the time of war of independence. There's also a lot of really lovely trees out there trying to link people to the English gentry in the 14th and 15th century. Its like they don't even look at the sources they cite. You said he was born in 1610, but the link you have matching him to his parents says born 1722. It is OBVIOUSLY NOT THE SAME PERSON. Its also interesting how much Scottish was up in the Massachusetts Colony (which Maine was a part of up until the Missouri Compromise. History!) since they shipped a lot over after the Battle of Dunbar to get them out of England's hair. Equally interesting is how many of those 19th/early 20th century family histories commissioned by various influential families gloss over that fact and insist they're all English. Yet another interesting ancestor, Elizabeth Heard (11th ggm) (and grandmother of abovementioned Anne Heard) quote:Elizabeth Heard
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Oracle posted:I'm stuck on all my brick walls so I'm fleshing out more of my Colonial lines. Oh my god, I hate this so much. You say he lived 1767-1847, but they got married in 1859. And then the wife he married after he died lived 1770-1860, but the son you're tying them to was born in 1830. Not that a 60 year old woman can never have a baby, but it seems...unlikely. I also hear you on DAR. I actually have joined, through an ancestor on my mom's side since I have aunts and cousins on that side who thought they might like to join. I've thought about doing supplementals for more of my ancestors, including on dad's side, but I'm lazy. At this point I think it'll be more interesting if I can find a Tory. (I'd also like to find more than one who fought for the Union in the Civil War, but given that most of my ancestors were in TN and the Carolinas at that point I'm less hopeful. It's basically only the KY branch at that point.)
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I’ve not only got Tories on my dads side, one was at the same battle where one of the colonial gggwhatever grandparents on my mom’s side was KIA. One could have conceivably killed the other, heh. I have surprisingly few Civil War ancestors, mostly they were the wrong age at the time (too old, too young) or not in the U.S. yet.
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