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New Leaf posted:
Ok, this helps. I mean, sort of, Siemens wrote a really lovely job posting. But, the gaps I see here is they're looking for someone to work across several business units, your resume screams "I managed 1 small focused team", they mention forecasting which I don't see a whisper of in your resume* (which is a Problem), they want someone to put together dashboards and slides on performance (have you done that?). So yeah, these are some gaps and they'll come up again and again. PMP will help, maybe some data visualization courses. Even free ones. If you can say "Yeah I know a little Tableau" it'll go a long way. * you have cost quotes which might get some traction but how you described it is very different from forecasting
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# ? Nov 21, 2023 20:54 |
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So I guess my question now is what do I do to fix it? This was the best I could do on my own. I hear what you're saying but don't have the know-how to utilize the critiques. I have no context as to what it should look like. Can I just pay someone to take this mess and build something that works?
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# ? Nov 21, 2023 21:00 |
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Well, I think you need meat first. Finish the PMP, maybe look into some Scrum certs or, barring that, binge some videos and list it as a skill. Learn some data vis like Tableau, Power BI or the like. You don't need certs there, but you'll be asked about it in an interview so get good enough to be able to get through a Q&A. There's lots of stuff out there if you can learn on your own. In the meantime, I think your 1 pager is pretty close. Do a pass and try to remove some of the jargon and you can probably put that in the skills section for now. Try to emphasize forecasting, dashboarding/data visualization, and cross-business communication. That might help things along while you build up your other skills.
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# ? Nov 21, 2023 21:05 |
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That makes sense. I'm just loving spent, mentally and financially. I can't afford more classes right now so this is what I have to work with. I will work on the PMP but frankly I don't even have enough in my account for the test if I finished it tomorrow. My wife works part time and I'm working at her business under the table for $10/hr to try to get something flowing but gently caress it's disheartening.
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# ? Nov 21, 2023 21:15 |
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Do the other stuff and take PMP off the resume until you finish it. There's free videos and even hands-on stuff for the other stuff that can get you to a level where you can call yourself "familiar". It'll require a bit of hustle and energy but I really think you just need that edge to tip yourself over.
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# ? Nov 21, 2023 21:28 |
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Thanks for the input, I'll work on it and see what I can come up with. Hopefully Thanksgiving will get me good and drunk and fatter than I already am and take my mind off of things for a while.
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# ? Nov 21, 2023 21:53 |
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New Leaf posted:So I guess my question now is what do I do to fix it? New Leaf posted:See, this is where the PM or PC is tough because it means drastically different things to different industries. I get so many recruiters who call me up assuming I'm a Civil Engineer when I'm not. None of the PM/PC folks I've worked with are. Plus, I've never dealt with budgets in the slightest in 12 years of doing this other than creating Purchase Order Requests that get filled 99% of the time. This is helpful. You could pay someone to fix it but I like to think of my resume as a summary of a story I'm going to tell. If I didnt write the summary, do I really have clarity on the story? BTW, Its not that working on 10k 3 day projects is or isn't impressive. Its clearly valuable as they pay people like you to do it. Its figuring out where that skill set fits (what job reqs) and how you can tell your story to be enticing to those hiring for th Brass tacks: I read you as having experience in a role that could generally be described as: A detailed set of things that presently or will soon exist are required to be obtained, transported, have non-technical modifications, and perhaps verified. When one or more of these things is missing, its your job to coordinate the people to go obtain that information using outside and/or inside people, then handle it per process. Once the data collection is complete, you push the thing to the next step of the process. That smells like a decent story to tell though sleep on this sort of thinking and maybe you can come up with an even better one. So how to tell that story? Remember to include, specific measurable things that a layperson can picture. Ideally, the thing is revenue but if not revenue it should be clear how you accomplishing bullets 1 and 2 lead too revenue. Bullet 1: Emphasize the on-time, accurate delivery of stuff. Bullet 2: Emphasize catching mistakes that save schedule. Schedule is the name of the game. Generally schedule savings of a 1+ week is worth way more than any cost savings you have authority over. Bullet 3: Provide a ssentence about the job that demonstrates the complexity of the decisions you're entrusted to make that leads to these schedule savings you are bragging about. Again these should be understandable by your mother. I literally mean to read them to your mother, if possible. Did she understand it? Then make it clearer. Now bigger picture: It sounds like maybe a career/industry change is needed. Thankfully lots of jobs need a human person to deal with arcane data gathering and people work delegation. So here's some jobs that I think might really value that skill set and may offer you whatever you're looking for for your career. I've not done these jobs so its an educated guess. Telecom: What you do now. Construction: Has similar roles with a myriad of titles. I often see this as the boss' wife's job at smaller shops, they answer the phone and keep the customers from bothering the people making money as well as make sure poo poo like permits and equipment arrives on time. You probably want to go for bigger places if you go down this route. Legal: eDiscovery Technician/Analyst/Project Manager - Several titles for similar jobs here, they need you to categorize and organize legal discovery so an attorney can review it. Legal: This is maybe 50% of what some law firms task their paralegals or legal assistants with. For paralegals Legal: Skiptracing, hunt people down and find their deets so they dont skip bail. Gov Contracting: Production Planner/Scheduler, also purchasing jobs where you need to ensure the purchase complies with a bunch of contract requirements. Human Resources: This is a part of many HR jobs, particularly at smaller shops. Making sure compliance is taken care of for HR related things. ... I could probably make a long list here but hopefully this is enough to get you thinking along the lines of how to tailor your resume for each of these very different careers where your experience will be applicable. You'll need a resume tailored for each of these so coming up with a cohesive story and then rewriting a one pager is prob a good idea. CarForumPoster fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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Fwiw most of what you get from paying someone you get from this thread for free. No one can really write your story like you can, so anyone you pay is going to coach you through the process or just slap something mediocre and generic together and take your money. You might try using an LLM. Claude or chat gpt. It's pretty good at drafting clear bullet points and there's lots of free resources on how to work with the tool to get better results. You can also claim some generative AI experience which might be handy since it's so on trend
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# ? Nov 21, 2023 23:43 |
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CarForumPoster posted:Telecom: What you do now. I'll add your probably not far from Business Analyst and your experience in setting up semi-technical telecom sites could be transferable there too. Might be worth peeking at those jobs too.
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# ? Nov 21, 2023 23:59 |
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So I applied for a job, had a talk with a recruiter person, and then got ghosted. However, I saw that the exact same job has been reposted a few days ago. Is it kosher to reapply for the job again?
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:So I applied for a job, had a talk with a recruiter person, and then got ghosted. However, I saw that the exact same job has been reposted a few days ago. Is it kosher to reapply for the job again? You won't get blocklisted or anything, but it's pretty unlikely that you'll get a response. If you're OK with that, give it a shot.
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# ? Nov 22, 2023 19:29 |
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There's a good chance the recruiter got canned so may as well.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:So I applied for a job, had a talk with a recruiter person, and then got ghosted. However, I saw that the exact same job has been reposted a few days ago. Is it kosher to reapply for the job again? I hate when this happens so much. I'd rather be told to gently caress off than be ghosted honestly I know of a few agencies in Australia who are continuing to repost jobs on LinkedIn I've been told were filled months ago. Now either I was lied to about the job's availability (unlikely), or they are using this role to farm for CVs. These are short term roles who wanted an immediate start, chances if remaining unfilled a month later are pretty slim. Not saying you shouldn't reapply at all, just saying there's lots of reasons a job might be re-advertised, not all of them above board. You applying again is kosher, just don't be surprised if you never hear anything
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Question for the thread: I'm having a well-paid but short term gig (6 months) dangled in front of me. They want someone to start pretty much straight away (within weeks). I'm waiting on more information from the recruiter now. Trouble is it's not the kind of work I want to do long term, would be more of a stop gap. Very administrative and potentially on-site full-time. I have an interview on Monday for a different job I'd actually want, plus ads seem to be popping up now for roles I would much prefer. Of course the interview on Monday may amount to nought, and these future roles may not want me at all. I'm worried if I take this role and then jump ship later for one I actually want I may burn bridges with this recruiter, who admittedly is only one of hundreds, but still, I'd feel bad. I'd feel bad for the employer too. I can definitely ask for time to see how Monday's interview pans out, but what about slightly longer term? Do I not compromise, and hold out for roles that align with what I actually want to do long term? I already have a bunch of apps in just this week, so it's possible that interviews may be offered now without me doing any more searching. I know every circumstance is unique, and financially people have different pressures, but what say you, goons?
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# ? Nov 22, 2023 22:36 |
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Chewbecca posted:Question for the thread: I'm having a well-paid but short term gig (6 months) dangled in front of me. They want someone to start pretty much straight away (within weeks). I'm waiting on more information from the recruiter now. Trouble is it's not the kind of work I want to do long term, would be more of a stop gap. Very administrative and potentially on-site full-time. I give you permission to do whats best for you.
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 04:44 |
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Jumping ship early on on a short term gig is not a big deal. I'd try to not do that for FT roles just because the professional world is smaller than you think. This is low risk bridge to burn though, especially as we're entering a slow hiring time.
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quote:but still, I'd feel bad. I'd feel bad for the employer too. The road to career mediocrity is paved with people feeling bad
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 06:18 |
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Can anyone recommend a good guide for translating an academic CV into something that a hiring manager would read, understand, and find impressive? The OP is 10 years old and I’ve seen/heard some vague handwavy things from other PhDs who, like me, have realized that academia is bullshit but, unlike me, have actually gotten hired somewhere. Nothing they’ve told me has been actually comprehensible or useful and the longer conversations I’ve had invariably end up with an “and then I got really lucky because…” that I can’t really replicate.
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 15:33 |
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Cut down to 1 page if you can, 2 pages if you must. Do some light redaction and post here. Again, there's no 1 resume format or trick that gets you hired. It's about crafting a narrative. IN MY EXPERIENCE, people in academia put more emphasis on pedigree and journey, private industry cares more about accomplishments (particularly financial) and growth. So adjust accordingly. Academia may care more that you worked in a lab at Berkeley 20 years ago, private industry will care more about the patent you filed last year at the small state school.
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 15:39 |
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lol sorry I should have specified that I have a humanities PhD (Classics specifically) so my professional experience is all in teaching, conference presentation, and writing including a couple publications. No patents or anything cool like that.
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 16:04 |
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Length of resume will also depend on your target industry. Using my specific subset of the biomedical industry as an example, there are lots of PhDs and so I think that has the expectation for resume length trends longer. Two page resumes are common among my successfully exfiltrated fellow grad students. But if you can make it one page, I think it can only benefit you. As for actual resume content advice: unless the hiring manager has a PhD, essentially no one will care about your publications. If there's a paper that highlights a skill you have (e.g., machine learning), then you could place a "highlighted publication" section with just that paper citation in it. edit: humanities to industry? then you should do a 1 pager most likely HOMOEROTIC JESUS fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Nov 23, 2023 |
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CarForumPoster posted:I give you permission to do whats best for you. PRADA SLUT posted:The road to career mediocrity is paved with people feeling bad Shame this thread doesn't do titles y'all hit this back to back.
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 16:17 |
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Yeah interesting you mention that since I don’t have a ML background per se, or even a NLP background, but I do have a linguistics degree and have taught ancient languages to hundreds of students over my career. I’m just not sure how to make it clear that, yes, I can help you make your AI models sound like they’re not deranged halfwits and should be paid more than the $23/hr gig work AI training I’m doing now.
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 16:18 |
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Apollodorus posted:lol sorry I should have specified that I have a humanities PhD (Classics specifically) so my professional experience is all in teaching, conference presentation, and writing including a couple publications. No patents or anything cool like that. Following what Lockback said, you’d really benefit from having a lot of individual accomplishments for each of your experiences these spelled out in a bullet point, but then picking what you want to submit for each job application. For example, delivering internal reports to different groups is closer to conference presentations, so highlighting your ability to quickly summarize work would be better than your ability to follow a lesson plan over 3 months. It’s just easier to have a bunch of info and pick based on a job description than keep reinventing that wheel.
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Apollodorus posted:Yeah interesting you mention that since I don’t have a ML background per se, or even a NLP background, but I do have a linguistics degree and have taught ancient languages to hundreds of students over my career. I’m just not sure how to make it clear that, yes, I can help you make your AI models sound like they’re not deranged halfwits and should be paid more than the $23/hr gig work AI training I’m doing now. What job postings that are out there that you think you'd be a fit for?
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 16:37 |
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I’m a phd who went for industry and I had way more luck with a 2 page resume than a 1 page, and I also tailored my publication highlight to each specific job I applied for. Listing presentations at conferences/congresses helped a lot
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 16:41 |
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Gonna need a way to say "the job I started last week is not the job I agreed to do" in a very polite way soon. Fuuuuck bait and switch employers.
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 19:48 |
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CarForumPoster posted:I give you permission to do whats best for you. Succinct. I like it. Lockback posted:Jumping ship early on on a short term gig is not a big deal. I'd try to not do that for FT roles just because the professional world is smaller than you think. This is low risk bridge to burn though, especially as we're entering a slow hiring time. Yeah every recruiter I talk to reminds me of that fact. The Christmas ads are starting to make me feel a bit panicky lol not lol at all PRADA SLUT posted:The road to career mediocrity is paved with people feeling bad Yeah I've stayed in poo poo roles for way too long because of feeling bad It's a bad habit!
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Chewbecca posted:Succinct. I like it. Brene Brown’s stuff is really helpful for feeling like this IME. Definitely been there too.
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 22:14 |
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In need of a resume, and I thought i remembered that there was a goon who used to get rave reviews for their resume writing service, but I can't find the thread. Are they still around?
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 00:45 |
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Parahexavoctal
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 00:48 |
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an iksar marauder posted:Parahexavoctal Looks like they are still offering their writing wares - thread can be found here.
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 00:55 |
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So let's say you're job searching on LinkedIn and you see a position reposted yesterday that you applied to last week.. Does that mean they don't like any of the previous applicants (yourself included) or are they just looking for additional applicants?
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 00:57 |
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New Leaf posted:So let's say you're job searching on LinkedIn and you see a position reposted yesterday that you applied to last week.. Does that mean they don't like any of the previous applicants (yourself included) or are they just looking for additional applicants? No
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 01:02 |
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No to which question?
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 01:12 |
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Both.
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 01:46 |
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Usually the things auto post by themselves every xx days.
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 02:12 |
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Lockback posted:Usually the things auto post by themselves every xx days. in my experience it is this
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 05:21 |
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poo poo like that is why I had no qualms using "AI" to tune up my resume. If job posters are going to do so much on autopilot (today, on Thanksgiving, I got a follow-up message from a recruiter) then I'm not going to have any problems using automated tools on the job seeker end.
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Friday round up: quiet this week, applied for 4 roles, was approached about another 1 (although I suspect I will be ghosted now), and emailed about another 2. Job interview on Monday, and you never do know!
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