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Looking forward to the first political process on the blockchain.
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http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/09/benefit-sanctions-actually-linked-to-long-term-welfare-dependency.html Hey look, it turns out starving solo mothers and their children if they are unable to name the father of said children does more harm than good. Billy boy claims this somehow makes fathers more responsible.
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Sep 15, 2017 11:05
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xiw posted:I just opened their discord which it turns out I've been in since the last election Let me tell you all about 
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Sep 15, 2017 11:21
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Does anybody have anything on what early voter turnout has been so far? Particularly the fabled youth turnout?
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Sep 15, 2017 12:08
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Captain_Person posted:Does anybody have anything on what early voter turnout has been so far? Particularly the fabled youth turnout?   I don't think demographic turnout info comes out until months after polling day
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Sep 15, 2017 12:50
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El Pollo Blanco posted:http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/09/benefit-sanctions-actually-linked-to-long-term-welfare-dependency.html this is the fuckin worst and it's abhorrent that he's standing by this
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Sep 15, 2017 13:47
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exmarx posted:
We usually have exit polls, don't we?
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Sep 15, 2017 13:54
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I thought they were illegal here? not sure.
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Sep 15, 2017 13:57
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Yeah NZ doesn't do exit polls
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Sep 15, 2017 14:19
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Moneyhavers, now might be a good time to donate some cash to the Greens to help in their Get-Out-The-Vote efforts, and reach those who are typically difficult to reach or under-motivated, to get them to submit their vote.
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Sep 15, 2017 15:25
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exmarx posted:
Thanks for this!
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Sep 15, 2017 20:57
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NZH is presenting "How Jacinda's plan fell apart" for two days in a row as their top story. NBR called her NZ's Sarah Palin. Newshub played National's Labour-Tax ad in it's entirely during their segment on the tax clarification. If Labour doesn't win it won't be hard to guess why. The fact media are criticising Labour more for clarifying their tax plan than on their apparent vagueness is pretty poo poo and frankly supports the idea they sell spectacle and controversy rather than information.
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Sep 15, 2017 22:08
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And in the meantime there is nothing about the National MP who lied on his citizenship application. Omitting details of his time in the Chinese security sector. Also the roundup of the last debate fact checked Robertson's claim National increased taxes 15 times and Joyce claiming it was maybe once. They recounted 15 or so instances of new or increased taxes. Conclusion: Who can tell? 
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Sep 15, 2017 22:18
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It was hosed up the way Joyce's bs about $11bn was reported for more than a week as a "he said, she said" issue when it was clear from day two that he'd got it wrong. But Labour have had plenty of positive headlines this election too, I actually think it's been better then the past two
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Sep 15, 2017 23:25
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No John Key would have definitely settled things down this time..
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Sep 16, 2017 00:00
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truther posted:NZH is presenting "How Jacinda's plan fell apart" for two days in a row as their top story. We saw from their reaction to being implicated in Dirty Politics that the major media players were in on it(as opposed to being taken advantage of). The Herald definitely as that's the main one I follow but likely others.
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Sep 16, 2017 00:55
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uploaded my overseas vote for Greens / David Clark for Dunedin North ~
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Sep 16, 2017 01:34
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bike tory posted:Labour have had plenty of positive headlines this election too, I actually think it's been better then the past two truther posted:No John Key would have definitely settled things down this time.. If labour wins, his abscence will be blamed. And rightly so; stardust would be no match for beers and ruggers. His disappearance is the only thing making any of this poo poo even possible. Maybe the glass is half full...
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Sep 16, 2017 05:02
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Voted today Green and Red Although I'm in Tauranga, so that twat Bridges probs won't be going anywhere  old people!!!
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Sep 16, 2017 06:39
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Horizon poll has: National 38.5, Lab 38.3, NZF 9.8, GRN 7.7 It also has ACT on 1.4 which would get them two seats and make a Nat/NZF/ACT coalition possible. https://www.horizonpoll.co.nz/page/477/main-partie
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Sep 16, 2017 08:31
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Sep 16, 2017 08:57
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I saw another one that had NZF voters exactly split 33/33/33 between National/Labour/whichever is the biggest party
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Sep 16, 2017 09:32
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Sep 16, 2017 10:27
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Sep 16, 2017 10:49
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/96882032/nothing-cuddly-about-this-campaign Absolute garbage from Tracy watkins on stuff. Painting this as a dirty campaign from both sides when it's obvious only one side has been going negative and misleading. Then when Jacinda and labour finally respond it's compared to the Clinton deplorables thing which is absurd because one was targeting supporters, and one only the campaign. Finally another excuse to bag labour's tax policies without emphasis that National's attacks were bullshit. I know i should no longer be disappointed with the appallingly low standard of NZ journalism but this is just pathetic trash. At least the comments are surprisingly decent on this one
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Sep 16, 2017 11:05
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English got destroyed on Q+A this morning
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https://www.tvnz.co.nz/shows/q-and-a/clips/bill-english Watching now e: confirmed, he got destroyed. Props to Corin Dann. truther fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Sep 17, 2017 |
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Sep 17, 2017 03:24
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Did Bill suggest: 1) that Labour will clean up our cities and that's bad OR 2) that Labour will commit genocide to fix pollution I mean both of those are bad I'm just tryna get into his head.
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Sep 17, 2017 06:29
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Yeah they're going to desert the cities and slaughter all the cows
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Sep 17, 2017 06:32
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reminder that agriculture is like 4% of gdp
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Sep 17, 2017 06:38
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exmarx posted:reminder that agriculture is like 4% of gdp Farming makes for better branding than money laundering and tax evasion.
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Sep 17, 2017 06:49
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I heard if you get attacked by a farmer on a cold winter's night, you can show him the sign of the cross and shout "SERVICE ECONOMY" and he'll crumble into dust
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Sep 17, 2017 06:50
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exmarx posted:reminder that agriculture is like 4% of gdp Yes, but Bill English's brother is an agriculture lobbyist.
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Watched Jacinda's interview and Corin good for him to be as hard on her as he was with Bill. Corin chased down both but he really tore into Bill for his inability to answer questions, running attack ads and Nationals terribleness now and the last 9 years. I wish the interview went on for longer. Pretty funny he kept singling out horticulturist like they weren't farmers or some sort of special forces. He got a little clarification on Jacinda's intentions on tax and gave something of a time frame as when a decision might happen(Hopefully months). The real leadership moment came when again was willing to take on personal responsibility which Bill refuses to do. The Korean free trade line of questions were bad though as she is right that you don't show your hand before you enter negotiations as annoying as that maybe for transparency although you still have to sell it to the public afterwards. Good finish with "Yes".
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exmarx posted:reminder that agriculture is like 4% of gdp That's not a useful or accurate measure of its contribution to our economy because GDP only includes end goods, so the bulk of agricultural goods (like milk powder/concentrates, wool, meat etc) aren't included because they aren't processed here. Agriculture makes up more than half of our exports, which google says totaled $61bn in 2013 voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Sep 18, 2017 |
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Sep 17, 2017 12:18
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Spotted this gem in paddy gowers opinion piece on why the Green's poll of Nelson electorate is rubbish: He's not wrong about the poll but it made me lol
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Sep 18, 2017 01:37
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And yet just yesterday Gareth Morgan was promoting the Stuff online poll as being more representative than any of the scientific polls, but Gower didn't see the need to fly into a rage over that.
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Sep 18, 2017 04:00
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That's because even Paddy knows that Morgan is irrelevant.
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Sep 18, 2017 04:34
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No way man those phone polls are bullshit he's gonna trump train his way to 10% just watch!
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Jesus, this freak of nature on ZB by name of Michael kept trying to Reducto Ad Trumpum everything Jacinda does. Apparently her motivation for doing so is because she's a  socialist.Guy should probably recall that that ain't a dirty word down here.
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