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Semper Fudge posted:Wait, what? In KOTOR 2 the Exile left the Academy before Revan, and did so because of what she viewed as injustice/lack of response by the Jedi. In SWTOR she left the Jedi because of Revan, you see she loved him from afar, and couldn't find a better way to be close to him then joining his army. In KOTOR 2 she became a General after fighting in battles for 10+ years. In SWTOR she was promoted because she was loving Revan on the side, and he was the one in charge of all Republic affairs. In KOTOR 2 she gave the order to commit mass genocide as a tactical move. Something that needed to be done to preserve the Republic, as all alternatives would have ended in loss. In SWTOR she actually didn't have anything to do with the Mass Generator, Bao Dur did it all by himself because he was actually the General, she was just nearby when it happened because her lover Revan didn't want her near the fight against Mandalore the Unbreakable which was happening nearby. In KOTOR 2 she left to find Revan to figure out what happened to him. In SWTOR she left to find him because she desperately needed to be with him again. In SWTOR she joined with Revan, who decided they needed to kill the Emperor. They found a guy named Lord Scourge who happened to be the Emperor's bodyguard/a pureblood Sith, who told them he was down to help them kill the Emperor. Revan just immediately trusted him, because why not. Oh wait, during the battle with the Emperor, Lord Scourge HAD A VISION that the Emperor could only be beaten by the Jedi Knight PC a few hundreds years down the line, so he stabbed her in the back to give Revan angst over losing her due to making bad choices. Her last act was to become a damsel in death. The reasoning given by Bioware when a few fans got angry at them during an AMA was that it wasn't their call in the end. LucasArts demanded she be killed/KotOR2 be wiped from canon as best possible when they went forward with SWTOR. Rookersh fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Oct 10, 2014 |
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Anyone know the scoop on the new civ game? It comes out on my birthday, but my past experiences with civ games on launch have not been the best, and I still am playing 5, which I don't even have all the expansions for yet. I'd be better off waiting for expansions/sales most likely, right? Why am I a dumb idiot who wants to buy poo poo?
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Crap, I just knew she died in a real dumb way, not that it was outright character assassination. Good riddance to Lucas Arts then. Stan Taylor posted:Anyone know the scoop on the new civ game? It comes out on my birthday, but my past experiences with civ games on launch have not been the best, and I still am playing 5, which I don't even have all the expansions for yet.
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Oct 10, 2014 00:48
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Rookersh posted:Obsidian pissed off LucasArts so hard they demanded Obsidian's writing be purged from their precious canon. Dear Disney: Ya done good.
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Rookersh posted:The reasoning given by Bioware when a few fans got angry at them during an AMA was that it wasn't their call in the end. LucasArts demanded she be killed/KotOR2 be wiped from canon as best possible when they went forward with SWTOR. If that is true, that doesn't seem like the best possible way.
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SO blood bowl is on sale. Is it any good? Which is the one to get, chaos or legendary edition?
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smenj posted:I know it's already been suggested, but I'll throw in another recommendation for Trails in the Sky, since the main character of that is probably one of my favourite main characters in any game. Yeah, I need to go back and finish it but Estelle is seriously amazing.    
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Industrial posted:When does Glados indicate a gender in Portal? When you find out she's Cave Johnson's assistants mind shoved into an AI.
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Industrial posted:When does Glados indicate a gender in Portal? *edit* Beaten
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A thought occurred to me about KotOR2. How much of retconning it in the shittiest way possible was LucasArts being exceptionally regressive and how much of it was Bioware being exceptionally regressive, because 
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Sir Unimaginative posted:A thought occurred to me about KotOR2.
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RBX posted:Bound By Flame thoughts? Poor man's janky Witcher 2 that's pretty hardcore on the hardest difficulty.
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HogX posted:SO blood bowl is on sale. Is it any good? Which is the one to get, chaos or legendary edition? Chaos edition is legendary with extra teams in it. If you're gonna get one, get that one (though you can still play against those teams in legendary, you just can't make one yourself). Blood Bowl is fun if it's the kind of thing you're into. Check out cknoor's LP of it on Baldurdash if you want to see what it's like in practice.
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Lucasarts is the one that doesnt think people would buy their old adventure games so I generally lean on them being the stupid ones in any scenario
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Lance Streetman posted:Yeah, I need to go back and finish it but Estelle is seriously amazing. Woah woah TitS is a really good game and a great modern JRPG but the characters are not good. The main cast are all shallow anime tropes but I'm only 5 playable characters in so maybe it gets better. It's a must-play but not because of the characters. They're all cookie-cutter anime tropes and the dialog is okay at best.
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Quest For Glory II posted:Lucasarts is the one that doesnt think people would buy their old adventure games so I generally lean on them being the stupid ones in any scenario Between DOSBox, ScummVM, and GOG they're basically sitting on free money and holy gently caress just let me buy all of the X-Wing series of games. Also find the source code so people can mod them like they do Freespace 2 and I will never need another space game.
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FadedReality posted:Between DOSBox, ScummVM, and GOG they're basically sitting on free money and holy gently caress just let me buy all of the X-Wing series of games. Also find the source code so people can mod them like they do Freespace 2 and I will never need another space game.
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I just saw a thing called Sid Meier's Covert Action on Steam, which apparently was first released in 1990. I've never heard of it, but it looks very much like everything I ever wanted in a video game. Has anybody picked this up to confirm if my childhood dreams are coming true? It's got no reviews on steam yet, so I guess it's a new release.
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Coca Koala posted:I just saw a thing called Sid Meier's Covert Action on Steam, which apparently was first released in 1990. I've never heard of it, but it looks very much like everything I ever wanted in a video game. Has anybody picked this up to confirm if my childhood dreams are coming true? It's got no reviews on steam yet, so I guess it's a new release. Just saw the same game too. Never heard of it, but it looks interesting.
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Coca Koala posted:I just saw a thing called Sid Meier's Covert Action on Steam, which apparently was first released in 1990. I've never heard of it, but it looks very much like everything I ever wanted in a video game. Has anybody picked this up to confirm if my childhood dreams are coming true? It's got no reviews on steam yet, so I guess it's a new release. It's a pretty cool game, if flawed in some respects. Though I don't think it's really supposed to be (or at least needs to be) labeled "Classic" and they got my hopes up with that.  I would love a Covert Action remake.Edit: Goon Frankomatic has a substantial number of gameplay videos here if you'd like to get a feel for the game.
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Accordion Man posted:The former most likely. Bioware may not be the greatest writers but they don't seem that petty. Lucas Art is. In the eyes of Lucasarts (and a bunch of gamers too before Obsidian got on a hot streak), Obsidian tanked the KOTOR franchise with KOTOR 2. I have a feeling that's why the pitches to do more Star Wars wasn't answered.
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Accordion Man posted:It's in Disney's hands now and considering that they were convinced to greenlight a Grim Fandango remake its not impossible that they'll release the old Lucas Arts backlog.
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Coca Koala posted:I just saw a thing called Sid Meier's Covert Action on Steam, which apparently was first released in 1990. I've never heard of it, but it looks very much like everything I ever wanted in a video game. Has anybody picked this up to confirm if my childhood dreams are coming true? It's got no reviews on steam yet, so I guess it's a new release. I liked it, although it gets repetitive fairly quickly. There's an LP of it that starts with a pretty good text/screenshot explanation of what's going on. EDIT: beaten, kinda, but the posts are probably worthwhile too.
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Tezzeract posted:In the eyes of Lucasarts (and a bunch of gamers too before Obsidian got on a hot streak), Obsidian tanked the KOTOR franchise with KOTOR 2. I have a feeling that's why the pitches to do more Star Wars wasn't answered. It's funny because LucasArts forced Obsidian to ship KOTOR 2 in basically a half-finished state for the holidays. Retconning KOTOR2 is equally amusing considering its story and characters are still better than most games (including SWTOR). e: pretty much this as well: Quest For Glory II posted:Right but in the argument of "is Lucasarts stupid" I would consider that exhibit A for "Yes"
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Here have some free steam games, descriptions are so you can claim codes for games you are interested in, and not take them all like a jerk! THE SUN AT NIGHT (2d metroidvania(?) platformer where you are a dog, map/layout is a hybrid 3d grid, gameplay is 2d) QHPAJ-04VF7-J2ALX HUNTSMAN: THE ORPHANAGE (save orphans in a maze first person perspective no fighting probably jump scares) LZCFA-EW6BP-PY3K7 PARANORMAL STATE: POISON SPRING (point and click story/puzzler) BEKG8-8A0VJ-255QE MAJOR MAYHEM (2d sidescroll platformer/shooter?) 7YJBZ-3H7HG-JBVQJ POWER-UP (shoot em up of unknown quality) XCFPY-VIP9Q-0TTJ8 THE SAMARITAN PARADOX (point and click 'solve the suicide' of unknown quality) GI2JV-74G27-D5TT2 KINGDOM ELEMENTAL (some kind of hybrid RTS/ARPG game with clunky looking graphics but ok reviews) DPZ64-QZVZZ-AGWFM BATTLEPATHS (lower budget/simpler dungeons of dredmor, is what the reviews point towards) C4IM5-QYFFD-LKZTI
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mr. nobody posted:POWER-UP (shoot em up of unknown quality)
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Heran Bago posted:Woah woah TitS is a really good game and a great modern JRPG but the characters are not good. The main cast are all shallow anime tropes but I'm only 5 playable characters in so maybe it gets better. It's a must-play but not because of the characters. They're all cookie-cutter anime tropes and the dialog is okay at best. Well, yes it IS a JRPG. Also, the cast does have a lot of depth for one. It does take a while for them to really show it. Trails big thing is that it REALLY builds an interesting world as well. (Except Estelle. Estelle's pretty much an open book for the most part.)
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mr. nobody posted:Here have some free steam games, descriptions are so you can claim codes for games you are interested in, and not take them all like a jerk!
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mr. nobody posted:PARANORMAL STATE: POISON SPRING (point and click story/puzzler) I grabbed this one. Thanks!
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mr. nobody posted:MAJOR MAYHEM (2d sidescroll platformer/shooter?) Got this! Thanks! 
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Heran Bago posted:Woah woah TitS is a really good game and a great modern JRPG but the characters are not good. The main cast are all shallow anime tropes but I'm only 5 playable characters in so maybe it gets better. It's a must-play but not because of the characters. They're all cookie-cutter anime tropes and the dialog is okay at best. Differing opinions and all, but I can't emphasise enough how much I disagree with this. The story, while great, is somewhat cliché (though it really builds up towards the end), and the gameplay's fun, but you'll spend much more time in the game reading dialogue than battling. The thing that kept me coming back the most (enough to play through again on PC after having finished it on Vita) was the characters and their dialogue. I mean, they're all clichéd to varying degrees, but I found them to be consistently well-written and entertaining.
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KOTOR 2 wasn't all that good - it's got two opening dungeons to get through to start exploring, many of the characters don't have the interesting dialogue from the LP unless you suck up to them, some of the cut content is just awful (the HK factory mission takes forever and is poorly placed right when you're going to go after the main antagonist) - don't get me wrong, there's some good stuff with the unreliable squadmate in Kreia but there's also a lot of not good stuff.
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monster on a stick posted:KOTOR 2 wasn't all that good - it's got two opening dungeons to get through to start exploring, many of the characters don't have the interesting dialogue from the LP unless you suck up to them, some of the cut content is just awful (the HK factory mission takes forever and is poorly placed right when you're going to go after the main antagonist) - don't get me wrong, there's some good stuff with the unreliable squadmate in Kreia but there's also a lot of not good stuff. Yeah, the opening can be a bore, but I'd figure that a lot of that stuff had to be put together to make it for release. The cut content is just that, cut content put together by modders which is no way indicative of what the final product could have been if Obsidian was given enough time to finish it.
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Quest For Glory II posted:Lucasarts is the one that doesnt think people would buy their old adventure games so I generally lean on them being the stupid ones in any scenario I don't think that Monkey Island 2 remake actually sold all that much.
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computer parts posted:I don't think that Monkey Island 2 remake actually sold all that much. Maybe not enough to justify remaking them all, but it wouldn't take all that much effort just to make sure they work on modern machines and release them.
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More effort than what they think they'd get back from it, apparently. It'd be more of a goodwill gesture than to make money if they did that. And they never will now since LucasArts doesn't exist anymore. Wouldn't be surprising if the only way we'll ever see those games upgraded at all is in a situation similar to Grim Fandango.
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I'm just popping back in here to say that I've been playing Splinter Cell Blacklist and it's pretty loving rad. I'm trying to mostly ghost my way unnoticed through levels, but sometimes I just gotta cut a bitch. It's a VERY nice looking game, too. Anyway, the stealth gameplay is pretty great and the kind of open environment for each stage is quite nicely done. Its environment traversal is a lot more realistic than Dishonored (I just mention Dishonored because I love it so), so it's not as 'fun' and 'fast' perhaps, but I honestly think the layout of the environment is superior - in that it's more tied to the gameplay which helps make stalking dudes a little more interesting. As stealth games they're not particularly comparable, but it's a very good and immersive 3rd person cover stealther. You can also play it balls out like Modern Warfare or something, but I like the sneaking.
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