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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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Sancho Banana
Aug 4, 2023

Not to be confused with meat.
https://twitter.com/MissPavIichenko/status/1789419749996150876?t=kwRVXgjfpLNVrt_4jlphiQ&s=19

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ModernMajorGeneral
Jun 25, 2010
https://www.theage.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/russia-s-richest-don-t-know-how-to-pass-on-their-billions-20240509-p5i7y8.html

Russia’s richest don’t know how to pass on their billions

quote:

For Russia’s elite, passing on family wealth has become more complex than ever.

With the war in Ukraine stretching into a third year and the rich getting accustomed to the idea that Russian citizens are no longer welcome in the West, the tried-and-true playbook for transferring fortunes has been effectively vanquished. Even Cyprus and Switzerland — some of the favourite spots of old — have introduced bans on providing management services to family trusts with Russian nationals as trustors or beneficiaries.

The fate of this vast wealth has major implications for Vladimir Putin and Russia as it remains largely cut off from much of the rest of the world.

While some of the rich still seek ways to keep family funds in the West, others look to relocate them in so-called friendly countries like the United Arab Emirates or end up transferring them to Russia — particularly if their holdings are concentrated there. Most of the billionaires who were sanctioned have opted to move assets home.

The country, for its part, has offered incentives for years for the wealthy to bring their money back and has created structures that it says will shield private assets. But concerns over state seizures remain, especially because they’ve increased recently. A critic of Russian President Vladimir Putin warned there would be more coming.

Two Russian billionaires who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution said now they can only do business in Russia and avoid thinking about potential asset seizures. Another sanctioned tycoon who moved assets back home said he hasn’t figured out how to handle his succession yet but that he and his family have resorted to building a new life in Russia.


“People act based on their current capabilities and limits,” said Alexey Stankevich, a strategic consultant for ultra-high net-worth Russians who advises several family offices. “The degree of unpredictability has grown exponentially.”

The fate of this vast wealth has major implications for Russia as it remains largely cut off from much of the rest of the world. The 26 Russians on the Bloomberg Billionaires Index have about $US350 billion ($532 billion) combined. Their average age is 63, meaning how and where they choose to pass down their fortunes in the coming decades will reverberate in the economy and across business sectors. Some of the billionaires — like fertiliser mogul Andrey Guryev and oil tycoon Vagit Alekperov — possibly have big chunks of their fortunes in cash, kept in undisclosed locations.

It is unclear how the country’s mega-rich plan to pass on their wealth, and there is no general trend, according to Daria Nevskaya, a Dubai-based lawyer who serves wealthy Russians. Sanctions following the invasion of Ukraine have sped up the process in certain cases, like for telecom-to-property mogul Vladimir Evtushenkov, who transferred assets to his son to shield his holding company after he was penalised in 2022.

“Each case is unique and depends on where people plan to live in the future and where their core assets are located,” Nevskaya said.

Russian wealth is unlike any other among the biggest economies. The succession wave that has just begun is the first since before the Bolsheviks seized power more than a century ago, ushering in Vladimir Lenin and virtually eradicating private ownership. Modern wealth emerged only after the fall of the Soviet Union, when local businessmen took advantage of the state selling assets in the 1990s to build the country’s giants of today. They soon began to find ways to send their fortunes abroad, trusting the rule of law in foreign countries would enable them to better defend their rights in case of litigation.

Russia, which doesn’t have inheritance taxes for its residents, has long tried to encourage the rich to bring their money back home. The latest push began in 2018, when the nation created special administrative areas where repatriated money could qualify for tax benefits. Then in 2020, the government renegotiated double taxation treaties with some countries including Cyprus, effectively raising the cost of keeping assets there.

Authorities later introduced private foundations that make it easy to transfer fortunes to the next generation by automatically distributing their assets or profits to the heirs. Since the legislation went into effect in early 2022, about 30 such funds have been set up, with the latest one just this month.

Roman Margulis, managing partner at ASB Consulting Group, which helps individuals establish such foundations in Russia, said the Moscow-based firm gets between 10 and 15 enquiries each month and that the numbers have multiplied over the past two years. The fear of sanctions and of getting assets frozen abroad is adding to the appeal, he added.

Yet only a couple of the people interested ended up establishing foundations, Margulis said. Because they are so new, many enquirers prefer to wait and see how well they do and how safe they are before committing. Moreover, heirs who aren’t Russian tax residents still have to pay a 30 per cent inheritance levy, making the structures less appealing when people living abroad are involved.

It’s not all about laws and jurisdictions, though. Russia stands out because the country’s business environment depends on informal agreements and guarantees that have developed under Putin, who recently extended his quarter-century rule with a fifth term as Russia’s president. While he has said he wasn’t planning any de-privatisation or nationalisation, having a good relationship with the authorities is key to avoid asset seizures.

Last year, prosecutors filed almost five times more lawsuits to nationalise assets than in 2022, according to research by newspaper Novaya Gazeta Europe and Transparency International Russia. In February, a regional court ordered the transfer to the state of three plants from a group that accounts for about 80 per cent of Russian ferro-alloys output and had been controlled by the family of entrepreneur Yury Antipov and his business partner since the early 1990s.

“The main role of business owners is to protect assets from rivals and the state,” said Stanislav Shekshnia, senior affiliate professor of entrepreneurship and family enterprise at INSEAD near Paris.

“This function cannot be passed on by inheritance as Russian capitalism rests on informal relations. Unfortunately, here tycoons have failed to build organisations that are independent of their founders.”

Harden your heart, Putin

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
Uh oh...it looks like the state is doing its job....

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


It's not machine-gunning billionaire fail children, but it'll do.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

gradenko_2000 posted:

Wow I can't believe the US 1st Infantry had to fight off a hundred Tigers at Omaha. Guess Monty was too busy lazily brewing tea at the beach to take Caen huh.

It wasn’t Monty’s fault, it was cus the Canadians didn’t do anything.

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

gradenko_2000 posted:

Wait so if she's Russian doesn't that mean she SHOULD be banned from eurovision???

unlike anywhere in Israel, Moscow and St Petersburg are actually on the European peninsula lol

January 6 Survivor
Jan 6, 2022

The
Nelson Mandela
of clapping
dusty old cheeks


( o(
Imho the most important person in the history of warfare is Joan of Arc, because she is catholic, a monarchist, understood the importance of artillery to take strongholds and most important of all, a woman.

Sanlav
Feb 10, 2020

We'll Meet Again
The idea that ill gotten gains aren't protected is horrifying to a certain kind of person. If politics can't shield robber barons from violence and taxation, what is civilized society even for!

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️

Sanlav posted:

The idea that ill gotten gains aren't protected is horrifying to a certain kind of person. If politics can't shield robber barons from violence and taxation, what is civilized society even for!

especially the temporarily embarrassed ones

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

but it's moskva in russian
e;fb

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


The very beginnings of the modern European state was when the robber barons started to build castles so they could leverage violence against the population without retaliation, so of course those sorts of people are making GBS threads themselves at the idea that the state might repossess the walls

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
Anyway, far as the Kharkov front goes, it seems a couple villages a day are falling, it isn't a massive breakthrough but it seems like the idea is very much to apply constant pressure to force the Ukrainians to react. It seems like it is working as well since the Ukrainians are pulling elements of brigades pretty much across the frontline, especially the Kherson direction, to throw them against the Russian advance.

Eventually, the Ukrainians will probably stabilize the situation in a few days, if you throw enough men into it there will be some resistance, but I think the Russians are conducting this exercise just so they can attrition them as they enter the theater and are forced to fight in fairly minimal half-finished fortifications.

The question isn't really Kharkov so much, eventually since the Ukrainians will throw enough men to slow the Russians down like other fronts, but if the Russians start hitting other fronts (especially Kranohorivka) or open up another assault around Sumy.

Basically, they are wringing the Ukrainians dry on as a broad and favorable a front as possible.

Ardennes has issued a correction as of 10:43 on May 12, 2024

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Endman posted:

The very beginnings of the modern European state was when the robber barons started to build castles so they could leverage violence against the population without retaliation, so of course those sorts of people are making GBS threads themselves at the idea that the state might repossess the walls

I wonder if there was some technological innovation that allowed the state to nullify the advantages of these castles though. Anyone got any ideas?

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
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Isentropy posted:

I wonder if there was some technological innovation that allowed the state to nullify the advantages of these castles though. Anyone got any ideas?

smallpox

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Isentropy posted:

I wonder if there was some technological innovation that allowed the state to nullify the advantages of these castles though. Anyone got any ideas?

Communism.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

putin ftw

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Isentropy posted:

I wonder if there was some technological innovation that allowed the state to nullify the advantages of these castles though. Anyone got any ideas?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Isentropy posted:

I wonder if there was some technological innovation that allowed the state to nullify the advantages of these castles though. Anyone got any ideas?

A battering ram?

Sancho Banana
Aug 4, 2023

Not to be confused with meat.

Isentropy posted:

I wonder if there was some technological innovation that allowed the state to nullify the advantages of these castles though. Anyone got any ideas?

Willpower

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Sanlav posted:

The idea that ill gotten gains aren't protected is horrifying to a certain kind of person. If politics can't shield robber barons from violence and taxation, what is civilized society even for!

less temporarily embarrassed millionaires and more temporarily embarrassed gangster oligarchs

Skaffen-Amtiskaw
Jun 24, 2023

Palladium posted:

they should make a call of duty where everytime it finishes introducing an bad dude operator they get immediately killed from a shell out from nowhere

https://youtu.be/5DqSqFyIrBI?si=aBDKF444U4Q0Uf7u

That’s it, thank you for serving.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007


Its called élan, and its the sole determining factor of all combat

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

how about Mosyak

Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

moscwas

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

January 6 Survivor posted:

Imho the most important person in the history of warfare is Joan of Arc, because she is catholic, a monarchist, understood the importance of artillery to take strongholds and most important of all, a woman who dressed like a man.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️
he's back

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003
that's a seventeen year old

fizziester
Dec 21, 2023

January 6 Survivor posted:

Imho the most important person in the history of warfare is Joan of Arc, because she is catholic, a monarchist, understood the importance of artillery to take strongholds and most important of all, a woman.

And what did all that artillery get her? Burnt at the stake, that's what.

Skaffen-Amtiskaw
Jun 24, 2023


euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

I had no idea Nuland was marred to Kagan

tazjin
Jul 24, 2015


An important result of Putin's re-inauguration is, of course, that there's new Wide Putin content: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwuV2HxNUgM

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

tazjin posted:

An important result of Putin's re-inauguration is, of course, that there's new Wide Putin content: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwuV2HxNUgM

👍

Grimnarsson
Sep 4, 2018
Was watching some old debate between Stephen Cohen and Michael Mcfaul, and Cohen mentioned that there was an independent European report in 2009 that concluded that Saakashvili started the 2008 Russo-Georgian war. I'd heard and was convinced that that was indeed the case already in 2008, but it's interesting to see how a lot of people just believe it was self-evidently an imperialistic war of aggression by Russia and a sign of things to come with regards to Russian aggression against Ukraine.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE58T4MO/

Sancho Banana
Aug 4, 2023

Not to be confused with meat.

He is risen!

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️
Saakashvili is fondly referred by chinese as 刷卡时为零 which figuratively translates into "guy who thought NATO has his back and got sold out when he cashed in"

slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-shelling-kills-least-three-russian-apartment-block-2024-05-12/

MOSCOW, May 12 (Reuters) - At least seven people were killed and 17 injured when a whole section of a Russian apartment block collapsed after it was struck by a Soviet-era missile launched by Ukraine and shot down by Russia, Russian officials said.
In one of the deadliest attacks to date on the region of Belgorod, Ukraine launched what Russian officials said was a massive missile attack with Tochka ballistic missiles and Adler and RM-70 Vampire (MLRS) multiple launch rocket systems.

Grimnarsson
Sep 4, 2018
The declaration in 2008 that Georgia, and Ukraine, will be part of NATO was kind of a hint, *wink wink*, that Georgia better resolve the territorial disputes with the breakaway regions as that was the most prominent obstacle to NATO membership. Russia's recognition of South Ossetian and Abkhazian independence in 2008 was also related to West's recognition of Kosovo's independence which was similarly against international law and UN charter.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Grimnarsson posted:

Was watching some old debate between Stephen Cohen and Michael Mcfaul, and Cohen mentioned that there was an independent European report in 2009 that concluded that Saakachvili started the 2008 Russo-Georgian war. I'd heard and was convinced that that was indeed the case already in 2008, but it's interesting to see how a lot of people just believe it was self-evidently an imperialistic war of aggression by Russia and a sign of things to come with regards to Russian aggression against Ukraine.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE58T4MO/

i can’t remember where I heard it (mark ames?) who said there’s a story of Saakachvili bumping into an old school friend in a café while he was at the height of his power in Georgia, and felt insulted because his old friend used his diminutive or nickname from school, and after he said goodbye his bodyguards found the old friend in the café toilet and beat him to death


might be completely made up, but I think it’s one of those stories which exemplifies what kind of a person he was

Grimnarsson
Sep 4, 2018
Yeah, Saakashvili was a sort of Western hopeful but turned out to be a corrupt, authoritarian thug.

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OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Jel Shaker posted:

i can’t remember where I heard it (mark ames?) who said there’s a story of Saakachvili bumping into an old school friend in a café while he was at the height of his power in Georgia, and felt insulted because his old friend used his diminutive or nickname from school, and after he said goodbye his bodyguards found the old friend in the café toilet and beat him to death


might be completely made up, but I think it’s one of those stories which exemplifies what kind of a person he was

I recall this story as well, but it wasn't Saakachvili. It was someone else. I want to say someone named Robert or whatever the Georgian version is.

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