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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Starsfan posted:my understanding is that Russia has not actually reached what is purportedly the primary Ukrainian defense line in the area, so we will see Russia has a "security zone" prior to its first actual defensive line. This security zone is what stopped the Ukrainian offensive dead in its tracks - the AFU eventually overcame it but their offensive potential was fully exhausted in the process. Ukraine's defenses have nothing like this for whatever reason, so until Russia reaches the first line its gonna be relatively smooth sailing for them
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May 13, 2024 16:44
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CN CREW-VESSEL posted:Are they in a total war or not? They're still making the loving Bachelor? Finding the resilience to make trash television while undergoing an active Kkhholodomor... truly a unique people.
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May 13, 2024 16:48
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Cookie Cutter posted:Finding the resilience to make trash television while undergoing an active Kkhholodomor... truly a unique people. Ever read Man's Search for Meaning?
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May 13, 2024 16:49
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Starsfan posted:my understanding is that Russia has not actually reached what is purportedly the primary Ukrainian defense line in the area, so we will see Not the center of it anyways but Russia is already threatening Lypsi. If that falls then that first line is compromised. There is an idea that this isnt the main push yet and that russia is holding off troops to expand another front further north west. But if Lyspi culminates prematurely they may send the rest of the troops down that tangent since its the closest route to Kharkiv.
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May 13, 2024 16:50
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makes me think of jefferson davies late war speeches they talked about on radio war nerd
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May 13, 2024 16:51
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Ardennes posted:Anyway, it is the Ukrainians complaining about the lack of fortifications and it really doesn’t seem like the Russians are suffering too hard for according to available evidence. The Ukrainians will eventually make a stand somewhere, they have to but honestly it never seemed like the Ukrainians were seriously building fortifications up there beyond a couple areas. The Ukrainian claimed a record for casualties inflicted on Russia yesterday. It's probably BS but they stick to the narrative.
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May 13, 2024 16:57
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This is literally what they said they were using in the south to reduce casualty rate during their counter offensive.
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May 13, 2024 17:00
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CN CREW-VESSEL posted:Are they in a total war or not? They're still making the loving Bachelor? lol no one is, everyone is just kinda taking the piss while infantry die it's really ghoulish
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May 13, 2024 17:07
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Not the center of it anyways but Russia is already threatening Lypsi. If that falls then that first line is compromised. I read a few days ago that Russia had also attacked in Sumy. That was clearly fake but I believe there is a grouping in that direction that could go in as well.
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May 13, 2024 17:08
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Regarde Aduck posted:lol no one is, everyone is just kinda taking the piss while infantry die Schrödinger's Total War.
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May 13, 2024 17:08
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gradenko_2000 posted:The Bachylyr all those young attractive women trying to be the one to get the wedding bandera
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May 13, 2024 17:10
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you may not like it, but this is what total war under neoliberalism looks like
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May 13, 2024 17:10
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supersnowman posted:The Ukrainian claimed a record for casualties inflicted on Russia yesterday. It's probably BS but they stick to the narrative. Big claims need as much evidence, it really doesn’t seem like there is a huge amount of forces there to kill in the first place.
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May 13, 2024 17:21
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Ardennes posted:Big claims need as much evidence, it really doesn’t seem like there is a huge amount of forces there to kill in the first place. Doesn't fly well when you have video of guys just walking into the area and others talking about how they were pissed after having routed Russians two years ago, only for them to stroll in this weekend and have no opposition.
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May 13, 2024 17:30
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Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:Doesn't fly well when you have video of guys just walking into the area and others talking about how they were pissed after having routed Russians two years ago, only for them to stroll in this weekend and have no opposition. Was it a rout back then or just pulling back because BTG were not meant to hold territory against a determined attacker?
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May 13, 2024 17:46
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Jon Pod Van Damm posted:In retrospect the Russian people should thank and send a bouquet to Jean-Jacques Annaud (the director and writer of Enemy at the Gates). Even the climax of the film hinges on an unforced error by the German sniper as opposed to a demonstration of Vasily's skill
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May 13, 2024 17:51
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supersnowman posted:Was it a rout back then or just pulling back because BTG were not meant to hold territory against a determined attacker? Let's ask an AFU and a Russian Army guy and find out the truth.
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May 13, 2024 17:51
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supersnowman posted:Was it a rout back then or just pulling back because BTG were not meant to hold territory against a determined attacker? Certainly the latter, if it was the former, you would have large amounts of equipment and prisoners. I don’t think Ukrainian forces are losing organization either in the sense of formations, it is just that at the moment they are even thinner on the ground than the Russians and are heavily being hit. It is pretty hard for platoons here and there to try to hold a front. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 18:23 on May 13, 2024 |
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May 13, 2024 18:19
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Russia tried to hold the territory in Kharkiv oblast with a skeleton crew in 2022. When Ukraine attacked they had to retreat because they barely had anyone there. There's really nothing more to the story than that Presumably Russia has enough manpower now to hold any territory they might gain from this new offensive.
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May 13, 2024 18:50
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https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1790029495258292543
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May 13, 2024 18:56
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The orc mind is so degenerate and undisciplined he cannot grasp the concept of proper, linear warfare. He cannot fire in volley. He cannot form square. He must sneak around in small units
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May 13, 2024 19:03
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Ukraine is winning spectacular victories further and further south. https://twitter.com/rybar_force/status/1790048567794544863 Suryiak is also reporting that the Russians have made a small advance in the Vuhledar area.
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May 13, 2024 19:06
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gradenko_2000 posted:The Bachylyr the bakhmutor
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May 13, 2024 19:26
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So what happened to Gerasimov? He is keeping his job officially?
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May 13, 2024 19:34
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Yes.
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May 13, 2024 19:37
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stephenthinkpad posted:So what happened to Gerasimov? He is keeping his job officially? Didn't see any announcement for his post yet but I don't know if those are post who usually get "cleaned up" once a new minister is in place.
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May 13, 2024 19:38
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bedpan posted:you mean they did literally steal all the money? I remember reading about this and joking about it a few months back but only being partially serious but if the early reports were in fact true and the supposed multiyear construction project built villas in Italy and France instead of trenches in Ukraine then they are screwed. part of it will be a measure of corruption, another part simply that ukraine really doesn't have a lot of properly trained low-level officers and have presumably been prioritising officer replacements for more active fronts instead of having them direct the construction of fortifications in territory which isn't that important anyway. samogonka posted:Nuland is a Western Supremacist who has no problem deceiving the public as long as it serves the cause this is basically official ideology among the western talking classes atm, thence the very public angst about "combating disinformation" or "information warfare". loyalty to the liberal geopolitical project must be maintained because it is Correct. the problem is that the most important maneuver the liberals have had since forever has been to discourage substantial evaluations and think of things in purely formal terms, which means that this position is instinctively and very obviously untenable - and so it just doesn't really stick. anyway i don't think the russian objective is kharkiv at all, i think that the russian objective - to the extent that they have a geographical objective - is izyum. if they could take izyum they can resume flanking pressure on slaviansk, which at that point would probably actually fall without too much trouble. that would in turn unlock a lot of the front. i still don't think that this is a big land-grab offensive, though, the point of contact seems a bit peculiar for that.
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May 13, 2024 19:43
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V. Illych L. posted:loyalty to the liberal geopolitical project must be maintained because it is Correct. 1. The liberal geopolitical project is hegemonic because it is correct, and it is correct because it is hegemonic 2. Because of (1), any alternatives to the US-lead order are by definition incorrect and morally evil, and must be dismantled 3. All available methods are permitted in service of (2), and their use does nothing to undermine the truth of (1) VoicesCanBe has issued a correction as of 19:51 on May 13, 2024 |
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May 13, 2024 19:46
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V. Illych L. posted:part of it will be a measure of corruption, another part simply that ukraine really doesn't have a lot of properly trained low-level officers and have presumably been prioritising officer replacements for more active fronts instead of having them direct the construction of fortifications in territory which isn't that important anyway. this will eventually be reported as hidebound soviet-style Ukrainian war office who should have given the entire program over to contractors
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May 13, 2024 19:57
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https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-david-cameron-ukraine-peace-deal-mar-a-lago-military-aid/ lol amazing
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May 13, 2024 20:01
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VoicesCanBe posted:1. The liberal geopolitical project is hegemonic because it is correct, and it is correct because it is hegemonic So these are the first principles they're always talking about
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May 13, 2024 20:09
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Backroom peace negotiations is standard.
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May 13, 2024 20:11
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i say swears online posted:https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-david-cameron-ukraine-peace-deal-mar-a-lago-military-aid/ Former Anglo leaders who are plotting the new world map behind the current Anglo leaders....Is ScoMo coming back?
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May 13, 2024 20:13
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all the reporting about the "radical" peace plan proposals is completely divorced from the reality of the situation though.. it's stuff like an immediate ceasefire while the deal is hammered out but NATO can keep on supplying Ukraine weapons during this time period, Ukraine gets all of their territory back to the 2022 borders, Ukraine's NATO membership is put aside for now (though not removed from the table entirely) and in exchange the western countries *may* remove some of the sanctions from Russia sometime down the line as a treat, if Russia is well behaved.
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May 13, 2024 20:25
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i say swears online posted:https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-david-cameron-ukraine-peace-deal-mar-a-lago-military-aid/ quote:“Investment in Ukraine’s security is investment in our security. Our NATO allies are already worried about the prospect of if Putin succeeds, that they’ll be next — with all the consequences that would bring,” the British prime minister added. if putin stops before dismantling the ukrainian state he is an imbecile
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May 13, 2024 20:28
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Starsfan posted:all the reporting about the "radical" peace plan proposals is completely divorced from the reality of the situation though.. it's stuff like an immediate ceasefire while the deal is hammered out but NATO can keep on supplying Ukraine weapons during this time period, Ukraine gets all of their territory back to the 2022 borders, Ukraine's NATO membership is put aside for now (though not removed from the table entirely) and in exchange the western countries *may* remove some of the sanctions from Russia sometime down the line as a treat, if Russia is well behaved. That's the "best" I saw yet. "Peace plan of Ukraine” agreed with USA: 1. Withdrawal of Russian troops from all territories occupied after 02/24/2022 2. Legislative transfer of all gold and foreign exchange reserves and seized assets of the RF and Russians as of 09/01/2022. Law on reparations must be adopted by the State Duma, the Federation Council and signed by the President 3. Additional payment of reparations of €200 billion over 25 years in equal installments 4. Free supplies of natural gas to Ukraine for five years from 01/01/2023 5. Holding a referendum on the status of Crimea no later than 01/01/24 under the auspices of UN and international organisations 6. Demilitarisation of the entire European part of the RF with the withdrawal of all units and formations West of the Urals 7. Legislative reduction of the Russian army to 600,000 8. Admission of military observers to all military facilities of the Russian Federation, including closed research institutes and design bureaus 9. Extraordinary elections of the State Duma with the full participation of international observers 10. Extraordinary presidential elections with the full participation of international observers.
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May 13, 2024 20:29
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supersnowman posted:That's the "best" I saw yet. this is insane. this is little different from a treaty imposed on Russia if NATO troops had occupied the Kremlin and everything west of the urals
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May 13, 2024 20:31
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ah now they can meet us halfway - inbred aristocrat logic
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May 13, 2024 20:34
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supersnowman posted:That's the "best" I saw yet. These are the dictats of a victor. I really can't tell if the US is just that cynical in sending all these ukrainians to their deaths or they really think this is diplomacy
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May 13, 2024 20:45
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i think the problem is that the US won't let Ukraine negotiate unless it's from the greatest possible position of strength, but the US has also completely bought the propaganda about how Russia is going to collapse X months from now so there is always a stronger time for Ukraine to negotiate at some indeterminate date in the future. It's like the exact opposite of realtor logic where now is always the best time to buy a house no matter what is going on in society.. Ukraine's day will never come and eventually the state will completely collapse and Zelenskyy and his crew will abandon the country. I just remember how people were calling on Ukraine to go to the table after they initially repulsed the Russian invasion, and then again in the fall after they re-captured all that territory Kherson and Kharkiv regions.. and both times the line from the US was "yeah we could negotiate right now, but why sell Ukraine short? there's a counter offensive to re-take Crimea to launch baby!". They really hosed Ukraine good.
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