CN CREW-VESSEL posted:

Desert Storm: Evaluation of the Air Campaign

OctaMurk posted:

The highest-ranking United States military officer said Thursday that Western armies will provide military trainers to Kyiv at some point — a step that would mark a significant departure from NATO countries’ reluctance to put boots on the ground in Ukraine.

OctaMurk posted:

The highest-ranking United States military officer said Thursday that Western armies will provide military trainers to Kyiv at some point — a step that would mark a significant departure from NATO countries’ reluctance to put boots on the ground in Ukraine.

mlmp08 posted:

Got a link? I want to see how many wiggle words are used.

mlmp08 posted:

Got a link? I want to see how many wiggle words are used.

euphronius posted:

I read a lot about Jack Ruby and he may have been a lone wolf

mlmp08 posted:

I’m talking about the CLU. The BCU is a different thing. You typically scout and choose targets with the CLU then only engage with the missile and BCU once you have a target in mind, which is why Javelins excel from hidden positions, defensive positions, etc, and aren’t great for trying to advance on armor (but don’t charge armor with light infantry over open ground)

If you’re engaging targets at night, yeah, don’t pop that BCU until you have solid target(s) to shoot at. During the day, just ten seconds, but that still can be hard if the target is darting through cover, but that’s a challenge for most any ATGM rather than cannon or very short range unguided round.

Nix Panicus posted:

Even if you go with mlmp's explanation that the French didn't give the CIA an actual backdoor, the French still told them exactly how the system was designed, where it was deployed, and how to overwhelm and defeat it in the opening hours

tristeham posted:

arent you the guy who gave gun advice to a murderer?

tristeham posted:

arent you the guy who gave gun advice to a murderer?

CN CREW-VESSEL posted:

tristeham posted:

arent you the guy who gave gun advice to a murderer?

VoicesCanBe posted:

I gotta be honest all of that together sounds like a functional equivalent to a backdoor

tristeham posted:

arent you the guy who gave gun advice to a murderer?

stumblebum posted:

must've been good advice

quote:

Been speaking to a large number of Ukrainian military and civil society figures over the past days. The general consensus is that the situation on the front is going to get worse before it gets better.

A lot of blame can be laid on some of the ridiculous restrictions imposed on Ukraine by Western partners. But my sources also identified significant issues with command and control and basic competence in the Ukrainian military leadership.

As one of my sources put it, the Ukrainian military has currently regressed to fighting like a Soviet army. "And a small Soviet army isn't going to defeat a large Soviet army", they said.

They also said that the Russians are currently fighting more effectively than the Ukrainians in many cases. Totalitarian Russia also has the advantage of having very little sensitivity to casualties, compared to Ukraine, which is a democracy with a free (and robust) press.

OctaMurk posted:

https://www.semafor.com/article/05/16/2024/ukraine-western-military-training-charles-q-brown-jr-nato?utm_campaign=semaforreddit

It links a nytimes article, which i cant read

quote:

So far the United States has said no, but Gen. Charles Q. Brown Jr., the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said on Thursday that a NATO deployment of trainers appeared inevitable. “We’ll get there eventually, over time,” he said.

For now, he said, an effort inside Ukraine would put “a bunch of NATO trainers at risk” and would most likely mean deciding whether to use precious air defenses to protect the trainers instead of critical Ukrainian infrastructure near the battlefield. General Brown briefed reporters on his plane en route to a NATO meeting in Brussels.

As a part of NATO, the United States would be obligated under the alliance’s treaty to aid in the defense of any attack on the trainers, potentially dragging America into the war.

The White House has been adamant that it will not put American troops, including trainers, on the ground in Ukraine, a position that an administration official reiterated on Thursday. The administration has also urged NATO allies not to send their troops.

Officer Sandvich posted:

https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1791105609342783556

quote:

As a part of NATO, the United States would be obligated under the alliance’s treaty to aid in the defense of any attack on the trainers, potentially dragging America into the war.

dk2m posted:

always funny to see ukraine portrayed like a thriving and robust democracy while the 2014 secession of the donbass is not even acknowledged

im sure the thousands of ukrainians who died fighting their own government would have something to say about a free press and the democratic process

Nix Panicus posted:

Putin and Xi just had a meeting in China where Xi hugged and kissed his good friend

Freezer posted:

I don’t think this is correct.

Wouldn’t these trainers be considered an expeditionary force operating outside of NATO territory and thus not trigger any of the mutual defense clauses?

Nix Panicus posted:

Also the cancelled elections due to martial law

Freezer posted:

I don’t think this is correct.

Wouldn’t these trainers be considered an expeditionary force operating outside of NATO territory and thus not trigger any of the mutual defense clauses?

quote:

The principle of providing assistance
With the invocation of Article 5, Allies can provide any form of assistance they deem necessary to respond to a situation. This is an individual obligation on each Ally and each Ally is responsible for determining what it deems necessary in the particular circumstances.

This assistance is taken forward in concert with other Allies. It is not necessarily military and depends on the material resources of each country. It is therefore left to the judgment of each individual member country to determine how it will contribute. Each country will consult with the other members, bearing in mind that the ultimate aim is to “to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area”.

At the drafting of Article 5 in the late 1940s, there was consensus on the principle of mutual assistance, but fundamental disagreement on the modalities of implementing this commitment. The European participants wanted to ensure that the United States would automatically come to their assistance should one of the signatories come under attack; the United States did not want to make such a pledge and obtained that this be reflected in the wording of Article 5.

Nix Panicus posted:

Bold of them to assume it's going to get better

BadOptics posted:

Members can balk and help by sending non-military aid.

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_110496.htm#:~:text=Article%205%20provides%20that%20if,to%20assist%20the%20Ally%20attacked.

Officer Sandvich posted:

https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1791105609342783556

Nix Panicus posted:

Yeah, having the exact coordinates and function for every piece of the system from the outset because you got it from the guy who installed it is still a hell of a leg up even if it's not literally Hackermans.

Officer Sandvich posted:

https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1791105609342783556

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/StilichoReads/status/1791292487132397886?t=3iXg0LElMzBvl9f94h6YQw&s=19

supersnowman posted:

Technically, "any form of aid they deem necessary" could be "though and prayers".

VoicesCanBe posted:

Ukraine canceled its elections, banned its most prominent opposition parties, and tightly controls its press lmao

That whole thread rocks, it's pure vibes, no actual analysis

Starsfan posted:

it's incredible that Russia still has the capacity to attack everywhere even after 350,000 deaths in combat and likely 3-4x that number wounded.