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TGLT posted:Dubya was definitely evil, I think the real difference is that Trump is petty. He's a small minded and self absorbed little poo poo. That mayor attacked him, what do you expect him to do? He's a counter-puncher! quote:The most significant thing to know about Donald Trump’s politics or process, his beliefs or his calculations, is that he is an rear end in a top hat; the only salient factor in any decision he makes is that he absolutely does not care about the interests of the parties involved except as they reflect upon him. Start with this, and you already know a lot.
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stone cold posted:the prize is the knowledge that you wrote a hot take Oh cool, am I wrong?
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Sep 30, 2017 19:27
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Rookersh posted:The food we feed animals and the food we feed ourselves are far different sources of food. Animals largely eat filler stock we produce while flipping farms, it's disgusting, barely full of any sort of nutritional value, and couldn't sustain people at any real level. I'm glad you wrote this out because it's more effort than I was going to put into it - but yeah, the Mid-West being of any substantial important in our grain production is widely overstated, and the food animals eat is not of any nutritional value to humans - nor can the places that produce that garbage grain just easily alter the environment to sustain human-edible crops.
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HappyHippo posted:People need to stop moving the goalposts. Hollismason claimed that if half the US stopped eating meat, we'd have this whole global warming thing solved. This is what's being called stupid. Calling that stupid doesn't mean you think meat isn't contributing to global warming. and none of you offered any evidence of anything, so?
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mcmagic posted:The Bush administration did more harm than Trump could even imagine.  "The Bush administration did more harm than Trump could even imagine, so far"
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also george bush sure showed his compassion in iraq, afghanistan, katrina, spending all that aids relief money on things like scaling back condom distribution and including abstinence programs if that's how he shows his love he's 
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Sep 30, 2017 19:31
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this. bush is evil and incompetent, but he believes in something and what he is doing is right(that doesnt excuse loving poo poo). trump only cares about getting the next orgasm from his name being in the press and is also a petty rear end in a top hat who is super narcissist. he is a big bully who gets super mad a punches things weaker then him.
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Sep 30, 2017 19:33
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JawKnee posted:and none of you offered any evidence of anything, so? Any reasonably informed person can see that it's moronic, and besides the onus is on the one making the claim to support it. Nonetheless: quote:Agriculture is a significant driver of global warming and causes 15% of all emissions, half of which are from livestock So less than 8% of all emissions are from livestock. Now I'm supposed to believe that if half of one country became vegetarian then there'd be no global warming?
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it seems like the particular difference between the Bush jr. administrations and Trumps is that while Bush certainly put on the affable goof hat a lot, the people under him certainly were not incompetent at pursuing their agendas without stepping on eachother's/everyone's toes all the time
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Trump is unique in that he's about the only person I can think of who I can literally say nothing good about. I have no doubt that Bush the Younger loved his children, and I'm reasonably certain at least some of his evil deeds were motivated by a misguided sense that what he was doing was somehow right, rather than amoral hatred. Hitler, by all accounts, was fond of dogs. Trump? I got nothing. I can't say anything positive about him because he really does seem to be just one of the most loathsome and vile people to ever blight the Earth. As far as damage goes, it remains to be seen. Bush did massive damage, is directly responsible for ISIS, and has an enormous bodycount, but Trump has damaged the US' standing and reliability in a way even Bush did not, has poisoned discourse in a way even Bush did not (although Trump is as much as symptom as a cause of that) and has openly and actively courted Nazis and given them a presence in American politics. It took some time for the true damage (ISIS, etc) Bush did to manifest itself, and I imagine that we will be dealing with the ramifications of the 'Alt-Right' for quite some time after Trump is gone; assuming civilization persists past his idiocy. And that's without bringing up what is looming to be the Puerto Rican Genocide. And, you know, the fact we're not even a year in and there's still lots more damage to be done.
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Sep 30, 2017 19:39
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The best description of Trump was from Mark Singer saying "had aspired to and achieved the ultimate luxury, an existence unmolested by the rumbling of a soul.”"
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HappyHippo posted:Any reasonably informed person can see that it's moronic, and besides the onus is on the one making the claim to support it. Nonetheless: I can quote percentages too http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/study-claims-meat-creates-half-of-all-greenhouse-gases-1812909.html
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JawKnee posted:it seems like the particular difference between the Bush jr. administrations and Trumps is that while Bush certainly put on the affable goof hat a lot, the people under him certainly were not incompetent at pursuing their agendas without stepping on eachother's/everyone's toes all the time Yes Bush had the whole Captain planet villain roster . Trump has the Shredder roster
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Sep 30, 2017 19:41
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HappyHippo posted:Any reasonably informed person can see that it's moronic, and besides the onus is on the one making the claim to support it. Nonetheless: if you want the discourse to improve, improve the discourse HappyHippo posted:So less than 8% of all emissions are from livestock. Now I'm supposed to believe that if half of one country became vegetarian then there'd be no global warming? How much would we need to reduce green house gas emissions to halt global warming? Surely not all emissions need to be stopped? That seems impossible, given the natural release of CO2 when, for example, plants die and decompose
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Sep 30, 2017 19:42
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JawKnee posted:How much would we need to reduce green house gas emissions to halt global warming? Surely not all emissions need to be stopped? That seems impossible, given the natural release of CO2 when, for example, plants die and decompose More than 4% surely Also there's a difference between CO2 released by decomposing plants and animals - which ultimately came from the atmosphere in the first place - and CO2 released by fossil fuels, which was sequestered in the ground.
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Sep 30, 2017 19:43
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JawKnee posted:How much would we need to reduce green house gas emissions to halt global warming? Surely not all emissions need to be stopped? That seems impossible, given the natural release of CO2 when, for example, plants die and decompose Binding up CO2 helps a lot. A teacher once told me that pines were great at that since they absorbed CO2 in all seasons.
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Admiral Bosch posted:I can quote percentages too Cool some random study from a think tank that isn't peer reviewed, which I'm guessing was the highest figure you could google?
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Sep 30, 2017 19:47
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JawKnee posted:Oh cool, am I wrong? Yes, you loving idiot.
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Sep 30, 2017 19:48
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Welp I'm throughly enraged for the day. Trump is once again confirming he is a monster today even if we didn't need any more evidence to solidify it.
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Oxxidation posted:Yes, you loving idiot. about what, friend?
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Spiffster posted:Welp I'm throughly enraged for the day. Trump is once again confirming he is a monster today even if we didn't need any more evidence to solidify it. Trump is a special kind of president, because every day I get to wake up and hate him for a new reason.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Trump is a special kind of president, because every day I get to wake up and hate him for a new reason. Definitely encouraging me to get through my ethics query requests so I can run for office. Lowest possible elected official yeah but drat it gotta start somewhere. Trying to run on the ballot as a Township trustee and a delegate for the Indiana Democrat state convention. The meeting I went to explained the positions that were open for primaries next year and prepping for a massive voter drive since our state decided to purge a crap ton off the voter roles to little announcement. Still very early phases but I've had enough.
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Shut the gently caress up about a throw away loving useless statement made in the middle of a frivolous loving derail. None of you have any reason to be arguing this, It's not gonna make your dicks bigger, and hilariously owning other nerds on this dead loving forum isn't going to grand you a sense of fulfilment. loving GODDAMNED CHRIST.
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Crain posted:Shut the gently caress up about a throw away loving useless statement made in the middle of a frivolous loving derail. sir this is trump thread
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Sep 30, 2017 20:02
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Here’s an hourly reminder that so far, Trump has used harsher language towards hurricane victims than actual, murdering, nazis.
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Trogdos! posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/914087234869047296 Yup called that one. gently caress you too you utter scum lord.
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Sep 30, 2017 20:09
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stone cold posted:sir this is trump thread But I'm hungry AND outraged 
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Bush at least feels remorse, as demonstrated by the his statement that Kanye's comment was "the low point of his presidency" and by his paintings of wounded vets. Trump doesn't comprehend remorse. He only comprehends attack and counter attack. He has never owned a pet of any kind.
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Trogdos! posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/914087234869047296 Holy poo poo. What a loving rear end in a top hat
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BigglesSWE posted:Here’s an hourly reminder that so far, Trump has used harsher language towards hurricane victims than actual, murdering, nazis. If you support Trump he will love you forever and visa versa.
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I feel like today has been an important exercise in not losing your capacity for shock and outrage.
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The adnuolisphobia being displayed a couple pages ago is disgusting.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:He has never owned a pet of any kind. I'm of two minds about this because on one hand having a pet might have taught him some kindness and responsibility but on the other hand, thank God some animal dodged that bullet.
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That's the thing with Trump. If PR results in thousands dead due to easily avoidable illnesses and is regarded as an unmitigated success Trump will never have a "mistakes were made, we have to do better" moment. He's not capable of it. He'll just say "gently caress you! We did great! It was your fault!" That's how he's wired.
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1stGear posted:I'm of two minds about this because on one hand having a pet might have taught him some kindness and responsibility but on the other hand, thank God some animal dodged that bullet. think about what his large sons would've done to any animal
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Sep 30, 2017 20:14
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1stGear posted:I'm of two minds about this because on one hand having a pet might have taught him some kindness and responsibility but on the other hand, thank God some animal dodged that bullet. It just demonstrates his selfishness in a way nothing else can. No white house dog.
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Are there any good articles illustrating just how bad the WH has been dropping the ball on aid to PR?
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:He has never owned a pet of any kind. Chris Christie??
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JawKnee posted:if you want the discourse to improve, improve the discourse If all human emissions stopped today the outcomes from human caused carbon output would still likely be catastrophic but probably not enough to cause a mass extinction event. Carbon has both an instantaneous sensitivity and an equilibrium sensitivity in terms of net heat and ocean acidification effects. The equilibrium effect takes many years to reach, and the equilibrium climate sensitivity of the current amount of carbon in the air is already at the edge of the "safe" limits we set in the IPCC. Regardless of who emits the carbon or how much is emitted or over what time, if it causes enough of an effect to significantly lift the lysocline in the ocean, many things die. It's that simple. Notorious R.I.M. fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Sep 30, 2017 |
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