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Just learn something useful like how to work a rice paddy instead and live in a village somewhere nice and be happy.
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Have you considered a pig farm?
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ReindeerF posted:Have you considered a crocodile farm? Fixed that for you.
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SE Asia Thread: Have You Considered Suffocation Instead of a Crocodile Pool?
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If your organs will be usable after you die, what are you even doing in SEA in the first place?
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Chantilly Say posted:If your organs will be usable after you die, what are you even doing in SEA in the first place?
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My liver is so big I can donate it to three different people.
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Chantilly Say posted:If your organs will be usable after you die, what are you even doing in SEA in the first place? Here to see the temples!
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Pixelante posted:I'm just going to need to do a practicum semester for a BA in a Health and Community services, and I can do that literally anywhere I like. (I can actually do 99% of the program wherever I like since it's online, mostly.) More likely I'll end up getting stabbed with a dirty needle temping in Vancouver's Downtown Eastside.
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Sep 19, 2014 08:43
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Chantilly has been speaking the truth here lately.
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actually thats a pretty good question. I'm a college student with a stem major and no real interest in anything applicable to SE asia in specific. Are there any internships/organizations or whatever I could use an excuse to go back next summer cause I've only been away from SE asia for like a month and I miss the hell out of it
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No. I work in STEM (Telecoms) and I was asked to come over here to start up a team. Short term assignments might be possible for some of the bigger companies or getting placed with an outsourced group but other than that you're not going to be able to compete outside of getting really lucky. [edit] Actually there is an alternative, you could just start up your own business here and if you're lucky and ballsy enough you can live like a king. lemonadesweetheart fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Sep 19, 2014 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0WxDz3cfO0
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I'd say that without years of experience, getting shipped to Asia by a big company is not very likely. I worked in Vietnam for two years because my company had a studio there and wanted someone to head a team of linux nerds but I have about 10 years of experience in that domain - and I can't imagine doing the same kind of thing for just 2-3 months. For a temporary seasonal position? I really doubt there's much outside of working for charities, etc.
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That's the thing, for my field a charity is fine. I'd just want something more interesting than ESL or food-industry training. Last hoorah before I go be a project manager for some social service thing in Vancouver's ghetto or whatever. Before I decided to do this stupid degree, I kept losing jobs to assholes who had the degree and had just spent six months working with orphans in Ethiopia or Haiti or something ending in -stan. International experience is trendy and probably means that the first time you tangle with British Columbia's bureaucracy you're going to be grateful they speak English, instead of crying over what they're actually telling you. I'm disappointed there aren't real adult jobs to be had for falang over there, but I'd probably have only wanted that for a couple years anyway. GVI occasionally hires for what's pretty much a living wage, and they like former volunteers, but every staff member I met was either miserable or courting alcoholism. Pixelante fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Sep 19, 2014 |
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Senso posted:I'd say that without years of experience, getting shipped to Asia by a big company is not very likely. I worked in Vietnam for two years because my company had a studio there and wanted someone to head a team of linux nerds but I have about 10 years of experience in that domain - and I can't imagine doing the same kind of thing for just 2-3 months. For a temporary seasonal position? I really doubt there's much outside of working for charities, etc. I've volunteered with food kitchens and worked for an environmental charity abit. Realistically, do you think I have any chance at a summer gig at a charity somewhere in the area (still in school, no degree yet)
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Profondo Rosso posted:I've volunteered with food kitchens and worked for an environmental charity abit. Realistically, do you think I have any chance at a summer gig at a charity somewhere in the area (still in school, no degree yet) I recall there was a demand for volunteers in refugee camps on the Thai/Myanmar border, but that would be about as unswanky (yet badass) things you could do with your summer.
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Hey guys, I'm not going to commit suicide because I haven't even planned on donating all my assets to charity. Besides, death by carbon monoxide is not really that disturbing. It's least violent, and one of the better ways to go. Couple months ago some dude in China tried to commit suicide by jumping off a building, but instead of the usual kill himself spiel he ended up living. Fucker Mario stomped an innocent man to death  Chantilly Say posted:If your organs will be usable after you die, what are you even doing in SEA in the first place? They are in Malaysia or Indonesia! Profondo Rosso posted:actually thats a pretty good question. I'm a college student with a stem major and no real interest in anything applicable to SE asia in specific. Are there any internships/organizations or whatever I could use an excuse to go back next summer cause I've only been away from SE asia for like a month and I miss the hell out of it Go away. If you do want to look for a job without the proper qualifications, please buy a bag of charcoal before you start  Senso posted:I'd say that without years of experience, getting shipped to Asia by a big company is not very likely. Getting shipped to "X" is a really big liability for the company though. Moving across the world is hard and not everyone can deal with it. For most people, it means sacrificing their home, relationships, friends, comfort, food, etc for the sake of work. Imagine seeing those chucklefucks who can't deal with ice cubes in Bangkok being dropped in a professional environment  Then you get people who eat at expat restaurants/mcdonalds all the time who just become miserable living in Asia. Or people who crack after a few months and NEED TO LEAVE.It's the same for Asians being sent to America/Europe. You hear complaints about "hard bread", the lack of Asian food, terrible selection of instant noodles, OMG BLACK PEOPLE, "nothing to do", etc
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Sometime you only want sing kareoke and eat MK with friend. You not understand, not your culture.
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Meanwhile I of course am exactly Marlow in the prow on the Thames. E: And my Congo is the double post
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caberham posted:Go away. If you do want to look for a job without the proper qualifications, please buy a bag of charcoal before you start Nah, he's looking for an internship. That's like looking for a volunteer job that at least peripherally relates to your job goals. The reason people take internships is because of a lack of proper qualifications and a desire to fake them, like every one else.
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Not sure about other countries but I've met so many people in KL doing internships it's getting a bit ridiculous. People doing law, architecture, design, journalism, stuff in the embassies or chambers of commerce. It seems to be pretty common. Also if you're in any kind of engineering line or anything that can tie into the oil and gas industry then you could look at that, lots of that type in Malaysia and I'd imagine other parts of SEA. Though bear in mind it may involve getting placed on a rig/island with nothing but other oil and gas workers (and prostitutes) on it. Also I'm enjoying that everyone I know's first reaction to me saying I've got a slightly sore throat and scratchy eyes is 'hey this person I knew got Dengue a few weeks ago...' Yes, the sniffles is now step 1 to Dengue (cue me posting next week about barely surviving a case of dengue). Also the only suicide I've been close to in Asia was a white guy doing a CELTA. I was working in the school and the guy, apparently, had some sever issues. Lunch break half way through the course he went up to the roof and jumped off. He did not survive. Any time you want to freak someone out about doing TESOL stuff just tell them the training can kill
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Anybody interested in grabbing a drink or bite to eat later? Edit: I'm in Bangkok, but pretty far out east Butt Soup Barnes fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Sep 20, 2014 |
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Pixelante posted:Nah, he's looking for an internship. That's like looking for a volunteer job that at least peripherally relates to your job goals. The reason people take internships is because of a lack of proper qualifications and a desire to fake them, like every one else. yeah i don't want a job i just want an excuse to bum around asia for another summer edit: i could probably bullshit an application for oil/gas type poo poo up. ill look into that thanks Tolkien minority fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Sep 20, 2014 |
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As a Texan I can confirm that the energy industry is pretty stuffed with bullshitters, so you got a shot. And there are indeed teaching opportunities in the refugee camps, but that's a different SE Asia than you saw backpacking. It's there if you really want it, though.
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Please don't volunteer to work around the borders or super poor areas if you aren't serious.
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XyrlocShammypants posted:Please don't volunteer to work around the borders or super poor areas if you aren't serious. No one is that stupid, right? ...right? I mean there are easier ways to get shots for Tindr. e: Oh wait, I forgot about my co-teacher who wanted to go work in Indian slums. Looks like her family stopped her. She's back in Germany now. She's also friended half of our novice monk students, despite express instructions that it's culturally inappropriate to do so. I wonder if she ever got to try out the wonderous natural and non-addictive qualities of opium. Pixelante fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Sep 20, 2014 |
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Pixelante posted:No one is that stupid, right? ...right? I think you'd be surprised. The guy in charge of orphans in Nepal was recently discovered to be involved in child sex trafficking. The guy who led a major NGO's operation in Burma/Cambodia had a 16 year old male boyfriend. I've known a number of AID workers to be worthless drunks who just hang at the bar during working hours in Vietnam and Laos. Africa is so desperate for workers that they don't care if you're snorting Brown-Brown off a hookers rear end, but in Asia, they are always wary of both the worst case, as well as the clingers on, the non-serious vacationers and the fly by night volunteers.
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Hm. There's a Uganda NGO that's already courting our cohort to get volunteers when practicum season comes around. I guess that's an option. Dunno how safe that is on the whole. Reading an Au site of travel alerts, they actually consider Laos more dangerous, at least for bandit activity. Course, they also say "don't go to Thailand" because, you know, coup and all.
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XyrlocShammypants posted:Please don't volunteer to work around the borders or super poor areas if you aren't serious. To be fair most of the people in the refugee camps are gap year kids so as long as he's committed he'd be a cut above the rest. And yeah some of the aid workers on the border are real loving losers. Thinking of the guy who seemed to like boys, the major NGO officer who always drove the company truck drunk, the Burma "experts" who were convinced that MH370 was a Mossad plot, the tea shop owner who beats his child workers but who is adored by the NGO community, etc. etc. Of course there are awesome people, too. But yeah, lots of organizations will take anyone with a pulse.
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MothraAttack posted:To be fair most of the people in the refugee camps are gap year kids so as long as he's committed he'd be a cut above the rest. this actually sounds pretty interesting. obviously i'm pretty casual as im posting on an internet comedy forum, but sex trafficking kind of disgusts me and i don't think i could live with myself if i showed up to teach refugees drunk off my rear end. where could i find a list of organizations like that? cause i certainly have a pulse and i'm white/fluent in english/young. also for some reason everyone i met in south east asia loves me (probably the aforementioned reasons) edit: i'm serious in the sense that if i would do something like this i'd do it right, not serious in the sense that my life calling is to help the underprivileged or some poo poo Tolkien minority fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Sep 20, 2014 |
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In any industry like that there's always a martyr around to one up you or call you out for not being real enough. So long as you do your job reliably and aren't a criminal level monster you can just ignore them. If they're the person hiring then pumping them up about their own selflessness is more worthwhile than demonstrating your own 99% of the time. The aid industry isn't great but it's a little better than other industry, so whatever.
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It's been said that a lot of organisations will literally take anyone who can string a sentence in English together and that's fine, but don't forget exactly why you're there: You bring money to the country and you spend it. Whether that goes on donations to charity, food, housing, alcohol, drugs or prostitution, that is the reason they want you. And whether you like it or not that is the ONLY way you will help these countries. This is not, by any stretch of the imagination, A Bad Thing. You can teach English or whatever and that may be a bonus but that's it - it's your money these countries want. And it's your money these countries loving NEED. Accept that and it'll all be a lot easier for you. I'm back in Scotland (Aeroflot 100% reccommended, just don't buy any beer at Moscow Airport) so signing out for now, hope to be back one day 
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Just join the Facebook group What's Happening in Mae Sot and lurk it a few weeks. But yeah, your heart has to be in the right place, so to say. Edit: anyone else not looking for opportunities is welcome to troll said group. I'm looking at you, ReindeerF.
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MothraAttack posted:Just join the Facebook group What's Happening in Mae Sot and lurk it a few weeks. But yeah, your heart has to be in the right place, so to say. 
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So don't feel bad about spending all your money on drugs and hookers. It all goes towards helping the economy.
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