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I haven't ever played a Dragon Quest besides a tiny bit of PS2 8 and some of Heroes 1. I was planning on getting the DQ11 Switch port, but also wanted to start from the beginning. Are the SNES ports w/ the translation patch fine or is there a better option for the first three games?
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Aug 22, 2019 17:23
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Azathoth256 posted:What point does it cut off? at the check point post hotto plotto
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Aug 22, 2019 17:31
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Mr E posted:I haven't ever played a Dragon Quest besides a tiny bit of PS2 8 and some of Heroes 1. I was planning on getting the DQ11 Switch port, but also wanted to start from the beginning. Are the SNES ports w/ the translation patch fine or is there a better option for the first three games? You can play almost all of the old games on mobile.
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Aug 22, 2019 17:48
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SettingSun posted:You can play almost all of the old games on mobile. Seconding this, I've been trying to play through the whole main series this year and the mobile ports are basically the definitive editions of the game. Dpad controls are a little loose because of touchscreen controls, but there's been a lot of minor tweaks to compensate for the looser controls. Except 7 and 8, play those on 3DS.
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Aug 22, 2019 19:52
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Disagree. I think the SFC remakes are still the best versions of 1-3. This is one of many times I've explained why in this thread, but I'll do it again: - 1 and 2, judging by the screenshots, has been scaled horribly and there are no even pixels except the new hi-res dialog/menu interface. I can't stand looking at non-integer non-filtered scaling like this, but ymmv. - 3 addressed this somewhat by adding a slight filter but they took out the boardgame minigame and all monster battle animations (wtf @ the latter). - Mobile controls suck. At least moving around does. Navigating the menus are pretty easy, thankfully. On the plus side, they all have new, official translations, and they are cheap and portable. Still, that's not enough for me to advise spending your time with them over the SFC versions. I would, however, definitely recommend the mobile ports of 4-6. e: if you decide to go with the SFC fan-patches, be careful to never use the inn in Beran in DQ2. There's supposed to be an event that happens, but apparently the patch causes the game to crash. Ofecks fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Aug 22, 2019 |
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Aug 22, 2019 20:11
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I always recommend the mobile ports if only because buying them shows there is support for the series in the West, which I hope turns into future Monsters games getting translated.
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Aug 22, 2019 20:15
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That's a good point. Guess I should pick them up myself and give the appropriate review to the Play store (or SE directly).
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Aug 22, 2019 20:18
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SettingSun posted:You can play almost all of the old games on mobile. I'd rather not do mobile ports if at all possible just because I'm not a fan of the control style, and I have my Super Nintendo hooked up w/ a flash cart. I wasn't sure if there was another option besides NES/SNES versions & mobile. Ofecks posted:Disagree. I think the SFC remakes are still the best versions of 1-3. This is one of many times I've explained why in this thread, but I'll do it again: Good to know about the inn in Beran. I've got the DS versions of IV through VI and the 3DS VII, PS2/3DS VIII, and 3DS IX (because evidently I like buying games I'll take forever to actually play), so I'll probably go with those versions for the rest. Planning on using the orchestral music patch for the 3DS port of VIII using CFW, too.
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Aug 22, 2019 21:57
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Having just played the mobile port of IV, if you can swing it, I highly suggest that over the DS version. The addition of party chat adds a lot of characterization to the party. Enough so that I probably won't return to the DS version at any point past this.
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Aug 22, 2019 22:07
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Don’t forget orchestra patch for VII as well.
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Aug 22, 2019 22:24
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Mr E posted:I'd rather not do mobile ports if at all possible just because I'm not a fan of the control style, and I have my Super Nintendo hooked up w/ a flash cart. I wasn't sure if there was another option besides NES/SNES versions & mobile. AngryRobotsInc posted:Having just played the mobile port of IV, if you can swing it, I highly suggest that over the DS version. The addition of party chat adds a lot of characterization to the party. Enough so that I probably won't return to the DS version at any point past this.
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Aug 22, 2019 22:28
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Ah, if there's no/less party chat in the DS port of IV I'll see about going mobile in that case, seems like a pretty big omission based on what I've read.
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Aug 22, 2019 22:41
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Yeah, Squenix didn't bother to localize the party chat in the DS remake of 4, but included it in the mobile port.
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Aug 22, 2019 23:07
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so uh if you couldn't put 2 and 2 together like me until just now, after chapter 3 you should head back to furrowfield and flash the mirror of ra at that dog i was wondering why i couldn't bring her to the island post-game and WELP they even specifically remind you she exists with a letter, i am dumb
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Aug 23, 2019 07:48
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Halp, ive never played minecraft before and i can't stop playing DQB2
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Aug 23, 2019 09:26
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On the subject of DQB2... god help me, but at this point I'm so enamored with it I'm thinking of LPing it once the waiting period is over. I haven't even tried to LP a game in years and years, so this cannot possibly go poorly 
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Aug 23, 2019 10:56
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I don't think there's an LP waiting period any more.
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Aug 23, 2019 11:02
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SpaceDrake posted:once the waiting period is over. If you mean the "three month" rule I don't think it's been a thing for a couple years now.
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Aug 23, 2019 11:03
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So I just noticed a plant growth option in the settings of DQB2. What does that actually change? I didn't think any plants grew or multiplied anyway. At least in any appreciable way that I ever noticed. Is it supposed to help with if I was gathering resources on a story island and left a certain plant alone it would grow more so I never fully ran out of a resource?
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Aug 23, 2019 17:14
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kirbysuperstar posted:If you mean the "three month" rule I don't think it's been a thing for a couple years now. You're correct. The three month rule was pretty much obsolete with the advent of twitch streams and day-1 youtube playthroughs, so it got dropped.
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Aug 23, 2019 19:00
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Jackard posted:Halp, ive never played minecraft before and i can't stop playing DQB2 that's fine, I describe both Builders as "minecraft except good" strange how even the most basic goal framework makes things a lot more compelling i barely touched the other two dlcs but the fishing one comes with 2 npcs so i converted the entire 2nd floor of my pyramid into a giant fish tank e: BAILOUT MCQUACK! posted:So I just noticed a plant growth option in the settings of DQB2. What does that actually change? I didn't think any plants grew or multiplied anyway. At least in any appreciable way that I ever noticed. Is it supposed to help with if I was gathering resources on a story island and left a certain plant alone it would grow more so I never fully ran out of a resource? sometimes grass will extend itself onto a dirt block, i've only ever seen it happen once though Yinlock fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Aug 23, 2019 |
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Aug 23, 2019 19:51
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i finally did the endgame and here is my extensive review of the finale:
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Aug 23, 2019 20:01
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Dragon Quest Builders 2 is an insanely good loving game. DQB1 was fine, but not great at all. DQB2 is probably one of my top games of the year. Also, my wife had a realization: Malroth is basically InuYasha in personality.
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Aug 24, 2019 20:46
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Mordiceius posted:Dragon Quest Builders 2 is an insanely good loving game. DQB1 was fine, but not great at all. DQB2 is probably one of my top games of the year. Malroth is good so that seems inaccurate
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Aug 24, 2019 21:36
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The Switch port of XI seems very good. Can't wait to take Sylvando with me everywhere.
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Aug 25, 2019 09:36
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They definitely made a bunch of tiny improvements to go with the bigger ones. Hero has more VA'ing for jumping and fights, and the gather points that drop three sparklies just gives all of them to you now.
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Aug 25, 2019 09:38
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BrightWing posted:They definitely made a bunch of tiny improvements to go with the bigger ones. Hero has more VA'ing for jumping and fights, and the gather points that drop three sparklies just gives all of them to you now. unfortunately they still couldn't give him more facial expressions than "blank", which still hinders a ton of scenes in the game they should've just given him big ol' doofy eyes like 8's hero, that worked pretty well overall I've finally reached the point in builders where i'm running out of things to do, it's been quite the ride Yinlock fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Aug 25, 2019 |
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Aug 25, 2019 11:29
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Am I finally past the handholdy tutorial section of DQB2 now that the multiplayer portal opened? cuz the linear questlines were really loving irritating and I had to do a lot of backtracking Jackard fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Aug 25, 2019 |
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Aug 25, 2019 11:34
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Jackard posted:Am I finally past the handholdy tutorial section of DQB2 now that the multiplayer portal opened? there's like no backtracking at all in the opening tutorial though? it's all on the same beach and a brief jog up a mountain e: whoops forgot it was post-furrowfield I don't remember there being much backtracking at all even there though besides talking to that orc like 500 times the quests don't really change since each island follows a linear story(but they don't really walk you through every step anymore unless it's an entirely new concept), but now that you have the sail everything becomes way, way more convenient to reach e2: also future islands will give you way more space to build Yinlock fucked around with this message at 12:10 on Aug 25, 2019 |
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Aug 25, 2019 11:56
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Jackard posted:Am I finally past the handholdy tutorial section of DQB2 now that the multiplayer portal opened? The second island is all based around going into a mine and coming out with minerals to build stuff, so there's still quite a bit of backtracking to and from the village.
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Aug 25, 2019 15:37
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Uh, you folks do know the game has quicktravel, right?
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Aug 25, 2019 15:48
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Yinlock posted:I don't remember there being much backtracking at all even there though besides talking to that orc like 500 times
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Aug 25, 2019 17:41
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Josuke Higashikata posted:The Switch port of XI seems very good. It is good. Looks great docked. A little blurry handheld but still runs well. But I have crashed twice in Heliodor. Hopefully it’s just a demo issue.
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Aug 25, 2019 19:27
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Jackard posted:I like exploring so I found everything before I was supposed to but the quests only work if you do,things in a specific order. that'd do it the way to explore is to limit yourself to areas the game tells you to go, but poke around as much as possible within those areas. you'll usually find some interesting stuff but won't spoil yourself on the 2nd island the entire surface has almost no plot relevance(the one mission area is super minor and has a warp point directly to it) and a ton of mini medals so go nuts there pooch516 posted:The second island is all based around going into a mine and coming out with minerals to build stuff, so there's still quite a bit of backtracking to and from the village. the mine opens up as you complete missions, it's not really possible to explore ahead of time(though there's still some hidden passages if you pay attention) also your buff pals will do all the metal-gathering for you anyway the 3rd island otoh is insanely easy to spoil if you poke around even a little, though you can't actually do much without specific items e: i'd suggest DQB1 if you enjoy exploring, that game is really heavily exploration-based though you lose a shitload of B2's quality-of-life changes Yinlock fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Aug 25, 2019 |
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Aug 25, 2019 22:09
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I got bored waiting for the Switch version if 11 to drop, so I dug out my 3DS to give VIII another go (I played the PS2 version waaaaay back in the day). Apparently they actually nerfed and buffed some skills though? Notably Twin Dragon Lash, does that mean Whips aren't really worth it on Jessica anymore?
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Aug 25, 2019 23:54
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I think it's no longer far and away the best skill set for her, but you can still make it work. TDL is still pretty good, IIRC, it's just not super broken anymore. Conversely, Knives are now worth using, I think.
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Aug 26, 2019 00:42
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Orange Crush Rush posted:I got bored waiting for the Switch version if 11 to drop, so I dug out my 3DS to give VIII another go (I played the PS2 version waaaaay back in the day). the three to focus on are Fists late-game(for magic burst at 100, absolutely necessary if you're going to do some of the new postgame superbosses), Staves (good to give her revival/support access), and Sex Appeal(always useful) some points in whips isn't a bad idea though, whips are her best option for random encounters you don't feel like just booming and you get a ton of extra skillpoints as you get closer to max level(the new bosses give a ton of exp and can be re-fought so this actually doesn't take long) so you can afford to put some points into it early on, or if you don't care about the superbosses Knives are real bad on her still, but are lolbusted on Red e": though everything Red can do is lolbusted, she can just kazing for free Yinlock fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Aug 26, 2019 |
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Aug 26, 2019 02:54
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If the flute doesn't echo on an explorer island, does that mean that the required resource won't be spawning in at all, or that I still have to run around the map for it to possibly load?
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Aug 28, 2019 04:12
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Argue posted:If the flute doesn't echo on an explorer island, does that mean that the required resource won't be spawning in at all, or that I still have to run around the map for it to possibly load? it should always echo unless you're checked everything off the list or you haven't closed the software for a long time in the switch version which makes Weird poo poo start happening
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there have been a couple times where I just couldn't find one last resource, even with the flute, and had to return to the IoA and come back
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