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Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Docjowles posted:

I wasn't suggesting you lie about it. If you're doing your due diligence you really should have quotes from multiple sources. Just saying that instead of stopping at the first round of quotes, you can then use that information to go back to the negotiating table.
Oh sure, I meant that instead of fishing around a dozen different VARs for each OEM, or round-robin purchasing from the cheapest of twelve different vendors every time you need to make a big purchase, you should have a smaller list of vendors that you do good business with and that each hate each other and have passed each other on the way into/out of your office due to an unfortunate scheduling mishap.

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Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost
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Methanar fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Aug 6, 2016

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


:jerkbag:

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Copy lorem ipsum into each box.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer
"Killed a man"

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
Fanatical service: My supervisor delivered substandard customer service to one of our clients. I pulled him out behind a dumpster and went to town on him with a baseball bat. He will never disappoint any of our customers again.

Mad Wack
Mar 27, 2008

"The faster you use your cooldowns, the faster you can use them again"

Methanar posted:

Applying for jobs and I found a pretty funny application form. It had probably 10 boxes along these lines.

I did not fill it out.



I saw one like this for a consulting firm but instead of 100 words max it was three essay responses. I guess they are used to dumb college kids who will dump an essay out the second anyone asks.

mayodreams
Jul 4, 2003


Hello darkness,
my old friend
Passion for technology: my rapidly growing collection of porn and warez demands that I stay on top of storage trends and video playback methods. Also, in a completely unrelated aspect, using ACLs to secure files on company servers.

Don't know if this is the right company, but it was the first one on the Googz with some of those bullshit ~~core values~~

http://www.fullymanaged.com/company/why-choose-us.html

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik
Two jobs ago my director was cool with me using an unused md1000 for offsite backup of my Linux mkv collection, as long as he had access to the network share.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Collateral Damage posted:

Copy lorem ipsum into each box.

Rape, murder, arson, and rape.

FlapYoJacks fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Dec 16, 2015

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Mad Wack posted:

I saw one like this for a consulting firm but instead of 100 words max it was three essay responses. I guess they are used to dumb college kids who will dump an essay out the second anyone asks.
My current hate trend is companies that want 10-20 hours worth of code sample homework from candidates with absolutely no compensation for their time

DigitalMocking
Jun 8, 2010

Wine is constant proof that God loves us and loves to see us happy.
Benjamin Franklin

ratbert90 posted:

Rape, murder, arson, and rape.

You said rape twice...

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

I hate companies that dont list the pay rate and a rough benefits summary in the job posting. How do I know if it's even worth my time to apply if you arent going to list that stuff? It just seems like it makes a lot more work for both parties to have to waste time applying and filtering candidates only to have someone not interested due to the pay.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


It's annoying but just go with whatever you feel is adequate compensation or "market rate".

Gucci Loafers fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Dec 16, 2015

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

DigitalMocking posted:

You said rape twice...

I like rape.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

ratbert90 posted:

I like rape.
Charming.

DigitalMocking
Jun 8, 2010

Wine is constant proof that God loves us and loves to see us happy.
Benjamin Franklin

Sign right here.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go

Vulture Culture posted:

My current hate trend is companies that want 10-20 hours worth of code sample homework from candidates with absolutely no compensation for their time
Yeah my example certainly isn't as ridiculous as 3 essays or 10 core values answers, but I do remember being asked to spend a full work day taking tests for a company to see if I qualified for an interview. I countered with an offer to speak to someone from their IT department for up to thirty (30) minutes on the phone to accomplish the same thing. They did not budge. Neither did I.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

ratbert90 posted:

Rape, murder, arson, and rape.

DigitalMocking posted:

You said rape twice...

ratbert90 posted:

I like rape.

DigitalMocking posted:

Sign right here.

Well now I know which movie I'm watching tonight.

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.
this whole thread was real confusing the last few posts until i remembered what that was

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik
Our dba/business apps guy just brought us three sysadmins a 6pack mixer of good craft beer each, to thank us for all the little requests he brings us all the time.

He even listened from a while back when I told him he could bribe me with dogfish Head 90 minute anytime. Merry christmas to me!

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

Vulture Culture posted:

this whole thread was real confusing the last few posts until i remembered what that was

I still don't get the reference. Can someone clue me in?

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

FireSight posted:

I still don't get the reference. Can someone clue me in?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcokL59jeqU

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

DigitalMocking posted:

Sign right here.

Sounds to me like he can get the job!

Daylen Drazzi
Mar 10, 2007

Why do I root for Notre Dame? Because I like pain, and disappointment, and anguish. Notre Dame Football has destroyed more dreams than the Irish Potato Famine, and that is the kind of suffering I can get behind.
Tomorrow is the unit holiday party, kindly paid for by the three contracting companies. It is also the resumption of our annual Nerf battle, which has been given our captain's blessing. The storage guy has been here for years and started this wonderful tradition, and between him and I we have more Nerf guns than pretty much everyone else combined. Just to increase participation we've been going around randomly for the last week or so and shooting people. If they object, we shoot them again. Today has revealed a large upsurge in the number of Nerf guns in the unit, including the unit commander and the NCOIC. First we feast, then we fight!

luminalflux
May 27, 2005



Vulture Culture posted:

My current hate trend is companies that want 10-20 hours worth of code sample homework from candidates with absolutely no compensation for their time

Or even worse, after that a "work trial" period.

No i'm not going to quit my job to audition with you, either you hire me or not.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

luminalflux posted:

Or even worse, after that a "work trial" period.

No i'm not going to quit my job to audition with you, either you hire me or not.

Contract to hire. No thanks, I prefer to have benefits all the time, thanks.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009


Thanks. I really didn't feel like googling that exchange from work :v:

Also it's obviously been WAY too long since I watched Blazing Saddles since I totally missed the reference.

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

Docjowles posted:

Thanks. I really didn't feel like googling that exchange from work :v:

Also it's obviously been WAY too long since I watched Blazing Saddles since I totally missed the reference.

I got to use that exact quote at the holiday party today.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Sickening posted:

Contract to hire. No thanks, I prefer to have benefits all the time, thanks.

It's very possible to negotiate the lack benefits into base pay.

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe

Daylen Drazzi posted:

Today has revealed a large upsurge in the number of Nerf guns in the unit, including the unit commander and the NCOIC. First we feast, then we fight!

Something something officer in charge, I'm guessing?

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Tab8715 posted:

It's very possible to negotiate the lack benefits into base pay.

This is even easier with Obamacare. Find the full cost of a Platinum plan + Dental and tack that in plus 10%.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Methanar posted:

Applying for jobs and I found a pretty funny application form. It had probably 10 boxes along these lines.

I did not fill it out.



I know it's dumb but from the perspective of HR and Management it's different. Find something online or a book that goes over how to answer loaded interview questions and answer the questions.

Most candidates half-rear end this section and management always loves a team player. Yes, they know deep down it's bullshit too but sometimes you just got to follow the rules but remember you can make this work in your favor when the compensation part of the interview comes up :smug:

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


luminalflux posted:

Or even worse, after that a "work trial" period.

No i'm not going to quit my job to audition with you, either you hire me or not.

18 to 6-month contracts aren't bad but holy hell I don't think I'd ever pick up a gig that had some 90/30-day probation exception. What the hell are these people thinking?

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Tab8715 posted:

18 to 6-month contracts aren't bad but holy hell I don't think I'd ever pick up a gig that had some 90/30-day probation exception. What the hell are these people thinking?

Probably that they need a job to make money so that they don't starve and die. Or they realize that employee protections are non-existent in the US where you can be fired at any time for any reason from most jobs and are effectively always on probation anyway.

Zaepho
Oct 31, 2013

stubblyhead posted:

Something something officer in charge, I'm guessing?

Non Comissioned Officer In Charge. The guy actually in charge (If no officially) that actually knows whats going on and works for a living.

Llab
Dec 28, 2011

PEPSI FOR VG BABE

stubblyhead posted:

Something something officer in charge, I'm guessing?

Probably non-commissioned officer in charge, yeah.

e;fb forgot how long I had this tab open.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Zaepho posted:

Non Comissioned Officer In Charge. The guy actually in charge (If no officially) that actually knows whats going on and works for a living.

Any NCO working at an agency that employs civilian and contractor employees is not "working for a living" by military terms.

Zaepho
Oct 31, 2013

psydude posted:

Any NCO working at an agency that employs civilian and contractor employees is not "working for a living" by military terms.

Fair enough. A little Enlisted Bias on my part I guess

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luminalflux
May 27, 2005



Tab8715 posted:

18 to 6-month contracts aren't bad but holy hell I don't think I'd ever pick up a gig that had some 90/30-day probation exception. What the hell are these people thinking?

This isn't that long, it's a few weeks or something.

In sweden it's normal with 3-6mo probation, but you have full benefits et c during that time. During probation, you can quit or be fired with 2 week notice. After that, your notice period is like, 1-3 months.

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