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It would be nice if they actually made the gossip notifications configurable, rather than just "we'll remove the ones we deem least important" (because you know they'll just gently caress that up) I'm cautiously optimistic about it (and the UI updates in general) though.
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No acknowledgement of bugs, and I'm absolutely not interested in the religious mechanics, but I'm cautiously optimistic about UI improvements.
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Bugs? I must have misheard you. There are no bugs in this glorious game, comrade.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Bugs? I must have misheard you. There are no bugs in this glorious game, comrade. "Nuclear Weaponry is the Future! How can you not see that?" Ancient Era Gandhi.
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Oct 10, 2017 18:29
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MORE religious units?? Who has been asking for that?
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Madmarker posted:"Nuclear Weaponry is the Future! How can you not see that?" Ancient Era Gandhi. HE SAID NO BUGS. GOOD DAY SIR.
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John F Bennett posted:MORE religious units?? I sent Firaxis twenty-seven emails detailing my ideas for different kinds of religious units and I am glad to see they did something, even if they didn't take my idea to turn religious structures into fast-food franchise districts in the modern era the alternative would have been taking out those districts entirely, and nobody wants that!
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Oct 10, 2017 18:48
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The two new civs are Indonesia and Khmer according to Civfanatics.
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John F Bennett posted:MORE religious units?? Yeah, I dunno. I feel like religion was one of the real misses in civ 6, it kinda just feels like a more annoying, more tug-of-war domination victory.
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Oct 10, 2017 19:00
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Religion should be completely passive. More units to micro is not very satisfying at all.
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Oct 10, 2017 19:02
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This is truly the end of an era.
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quote:I’m Sarah Darney with the dev team Haha, I was going to ask what the chances were of this person actually being a dev and not some marketing schmo so I googled her She's a marketing manager Why don't they just have their goddamn devs talk to their fans? Edit: Though fair's fair, she did spend five years in QA
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Gort posted:Haha, I was going to ask what the chances were of this person actually being a dev and not some marketing schmo so I googled her They did. Did you not remember the Beyond Earth Dev Streams? Those were an adorable trainwreck of awkwardness, especially when they invited Mad Djinn on.
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Alkydere posted:They did. Did you not remember the Beyond Earth Dev Streams? Those were an adorable trainwreck of awkwardness, especially when they invited Mad Djinn on. Okay, I will raise my request to the alpine heights of "someone on the dev team who has seen a civ game from a distance of less than ten miles at some point" Actually, they were just marketing managers on those as well. Check it out: Direct from Firaxis Games, Pete Murray plays Sid Meier's Civilization: Beyond Earth for the first time on Twitch! Watch as he demonstrates the difference between Civilization V's barbarians and Beyond Earth's complex aliens. Pete Murray is a Marketing Manager same as the one who made the statement about the "fall update". They don't let their devs speak. Gort fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Oct 10, 2017 |
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Oct 10, 2017 19:45
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Gort posted:Okay, I will raise my request to the alpine heights of "someone on the dev team who has seen a civ game from a distance of less than ten miles at some point" The last time they had one of their Devs speak he accidentally leaked the entire roster. There's a reason they don't have Ed on camera too much lol.
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They let Jake Solomon from XCOM on camera all the time. He's pretty charismatic though. But, yeah, Firaxis could really take a page from Paradox on PR and patching and such. More religious unit combat is not what I want, but I've honestly given up on 6 until we get the (inevitable) expansion, at which point I'll reassess, I guess.
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game devs dont want to talk to you and you dont want to talk to them, either
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Efexeye posted:game devs dont want to talk to you and you dont want to talk to them, either Paradox devs are cool and good
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Taear posted:The two new civs are Indonesia and Khmer according to Civfanatics. Despite what will likely be a disappointing and potentially bug ridden patch, these are cool Civs to have. Silver lining, ho!
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I'm glad to see more follower beliefs and that stuff because I think religion needs a buff to be worthwhile for a player. But adding more religious units? Hrmm... I think the idea to have "theological combat" was kinda interesting when VI came around but it just doesn't amount to something that is very interesting to use. It's like a secondary combat system that doesn't have any of the depth of the regular combat system. And of course, what I probably find worst of all with this 1upt system, it clutters the goddamn map even more. Still, will be interesting to see the full patch notes. More navy presence is certainly a welcome addition but it's kinda hard to get excited about things that should just be in the game. If there are naval units, the AI should be able to use naval units. If the there is aircraft the AI should be able to use them, etc. I am glad to see that they are willing to screw around a bit with the mechanics and add new stuff in a patch though. But I wonder how this will turn out. Hopefully the religious units stuff will be better than it looks on paper. EDIT: The weirdest thing about Firaxis and the way they handle the community for Civ is... I mean, we all know that Civ is a very community driven game, and a game that's in it for the "long run". It's a perfect game to have an active relationship with the community on, just like many other developers do with their sorta "long running" games. So I really don't understand this method of complete radio silence, then a patch+DLC suddenly hits, and then complete radio silence again. Especially in this day and age where kickstarter games have really driven the community interaction to the forefront. It seems really stiff to handle it the way Firaxis handles it. Leinadi fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Oct 10, 2017 |
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I'd be happy with religious spread being some passive function of a given city's faith/culture generation, with certain religious buildings or policies being more focused around offensive pressure or defensive pressure.
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I would be more excited about theological combat if it did other things, modifying the cultural or military landscape. I guess that's what they're going for with warrior monks (and I could see them doing more of): unique units bought with faith that compensate for putting in a temple rather than a barracks, at least early in the game.
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Though now that I read it more closely, it looks like the Warrior Monk will be unlocked via selecting a certain follower belief rather than being a "usual" religious unit so I guess that can be cool. I wish they made the religious units work on a separate layer from all the other stuff though so you wouldn't run into roadblocking issues. Then if you're in a war with someone, you should be able to run them over with your military but in peacetime it'd be nice to be able to have the missionaries and stuff not be in the way for regular units and vice versa.
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Let's get rid of stacking! introduces a separate combat layer that operates on its own stack layer.
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I don't believe that that AI will be better at naval combat, I think the new diplomatic UI will be bugged, and I don't more religious units for the AI to spam.
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lol remember when you all wanted updates and interaction from the developer. Not like this !
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euphronius posted:lol remember when you all wanted updates and interaction from the developer. Not like this ! That's not a developer, that's a marketing manager
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My own opinion, which like all my opinions is cool and correct, is that Firaxis has irrecoverably gone Full EA and any optimism you might feel about the future of Civ is pure wishful thinking
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Gort posted:Paradox devs are cool and good
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*Computer tells me about nuclear weapons in 3000 BCE* drat I COULD REALLY USE A DEEPER OVERALL EXPERIENCE, WITH REVAMPED RELIGIOUS COMBAT
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euphronius posted:lol remember when you all wanted updates and interaction from the developer. Not like this ! "2K and Firaxis are excited to announce the inclusion of all-new content for the Civilization VI Digital Deluxe edition, enhancing its value to deliver both strong savings" strong savings is a really strange way to hype up DLC 
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Poil posted:Do they even have a soulless and fun hating marketing department, that for some reason seems to be out to sabotage everything, like other companies do? Not yet, but they will sooner or later. Every successful small company inevitably grows large enough that Marketing pros seize control of it, because they're far better at sounding persuasive to executives than people who work for a living. Modern day Firaxis is an excellent case in point!
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Instead of adding more religious units to flood my lands and force me to completely ignore the religious aspect of the game, why not make trading what is was in Civ V byallowing religion to spread through trade routes? No, a warrior monk will probably fix it. I really hate the way they did trade in this game, and I can't imagine why they didn't copy it over more directly from V. Trading without the route benefiting the destination city is stupid.
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The Human Crouton posted:
Trade in both games was one of those systems that felt really off to me. Like it had been hacked in by a mod. Like trade map mode should have let me zoom out, see trade routes connecting cities with arrows, and drag drop adjust them or something, with profits popping up on the map. I dunno.
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Gort posted:That's not a developer, that's a marketing manager That's the joke my friend !
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I hope there's more to it, cause that's pretty underwhelming list of features Also, I bet the new naval AI will be completely broken and retarded at launch
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Weeping Wound posted:"2K and Firaxis are excited to announce the inclusion of all-new content for the Civilization VI Digital Deluxe edition, enhancing its value to deliver both strong savings" 
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Even with all of the problems with the game Civ VI is beautiful. That's what seems to keep me playing. The AI in Civ IV seemed to be pretty decent at combat (or maybe I'm just terrible). Did they break it at some point? This update will be a pay for it one too won't it?
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Cartoon posted:This update will be a pay for it one too won't it? They will be releasing a new DLC civ along with the update, but you get the patch whether you get the DLC or not.
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