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Kazvall posted:Reznor did all the sounds for quake, right? I can hear the sounds of picking ammo boxes up, in my dreams. Ching Ching! Yeah, and the music. Still right up there with Diablo for the best soundwork, IMO.
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catlord posted:Well I'm excited. Even if it's only half as good as Wolf:TNO, it'll be lots of fun. Wolf is a good game. I don't know why you'd figure it would be half as good, I'm expecting far worse 
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Kazvall posted:Reznor did all the sounds for quake, right? I can hear the sounds of picking ammo boxes up, in my dreams. Ching Ching! Quake's sound effects are so goddamn good and it's probably the underrated star of the game. Two effects stick out for me: the armor pickup (ching ching!) or the nailgun firing. The sounds made the lovely little nailgun seem so badass and cool.
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KozmoNaut posted:Yeah, and the music. Besides the theme song, the ziggurat vertigo track just matches the gameplay so well it gives me chills. We love you, Trent. Please start drinking again. And yes I was confusing the armor pickup sound with the ammo, though they are very similar. Oh man the sound of quad damage wearing off is perfect. And the sound certain monsters make when they see you, "eoooooughh!". Kazvall fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Jun 10, 2014 |
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Jun 10, 2014 21:31
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Zaphod42 posted:Wolf is a good game. I don't know why you'd figure it would be half as good, I'm expecting far worse Wolf is a fantastic game. I'm hoping that at the very least it's half as good (please be more).
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Jun 10, 2014 22:00
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If it does flop, I vote we rush in with a plan to save the franchise and try to get Zenimax funding. (The plan being, of course, to make Doom IV on a modified idtech1, retroactively declare Doom 64 Doom III, and say that non-roman-numeraled games other than the first don't count. It'd probably be profitable too, seeing how little money you'd have to put into it...)
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Jun 10, 2014 22:52
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By the way, did anyone else notice that the Cyber Demon's missile launcher has "UAC" printed on it? I guess it means the demons became some sort of unholy fusion between hellish form and human technology, but I don't really know how to feel about that. One of the things I like about iD games is that Hell has the same type of technology as earth, only a hundred times more brutal. It really provided a weird and awesome flavour. See also: Quake's Ogre-with-a-chainsaw-and-grenade-launcher.
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Jun 10, 2014 23:18
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Or, you know, Hell is taking over Mars and Earth.
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Jun 11, 2014 00:43
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The trailer strongly implies that people purposely grafted machine parts onto the demons, at least it does to me. "We let them in...fused an unholy union of flesh and metal"
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Jun 11, 2014 00:47
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Could be "Fused; an unholy blah blah blah" and the VA just read it quickly. What I'm saying is that it's way way way too early to say the game sucks based on the first teaser.
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Keiya posted:If it does flop, I vote we rush in with a plan to save the franchise and try to get Zenimax funding. (The plan being, of course, to make Doom IV on a modified idtech1, retroactively declare Doom 64 Doom III, and say that non-roman-numeraled games other than the first don't count. It'd probably be profitable too, seeing how little money you'd have to put into it...) no, you make cabinet machines that let people play Brutal Doom at bars and stuff (it has four sides so four people can play at once). You might have to vomit-proof the hardware for a bar, but you can also tweak the FOV to minimize drunk/hungover nausea.
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jerkstoresup posted:Perkristian tracked down the source of almost every Doom sound effect and made a wad with improved sampling and quality for each sound, and recreated some the best he could. I just tried it out and some things sound "clearer" for lack of a better term but it's all very flat and tinny. Not really an improvement in my opinion.
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RyokoTK posted:Quake's sound effects are so goddamn good and it's probably the underrated star of the game. Two effects stick out for me: the armor pickup (ching ching!) or the nailgun firing. The sounds made the lovely little nailgun seem so badass and cool. I will always remember the "ping!" sound grenades make when they hit the ground. It's easily one of my favorite Q1 sound effects.
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closeted republican posted:I will always remember the "ping!" sound grenades make when they hit the ground. It's easily one of my favorite Q1 sound effects. Its always funny when reading stuff like this and hearing the sound effect clearly in your mind.  I remember the flying monsters strange wails and other sounds clearly.
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closeted republican posted:I will always remember the "ping!" sound grenades make when they hit the ground. It's easily one of my favorite Q1 sound effects. We've discussed this before in this thread but the Quake 64 soundtrack is interesting since it uses a lot of game sounds as instruments. Listen to Level Completed, you can hear health pickups, doors, and even the signature grenade bounce.
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Sobatchja Morda posted:By the way, did anyone else notice that the Cyber Demon's missile launcher has "UAC" printed on it? GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:The trailer strongly implies that people purposely grafted machine parts onto the demons, at least it does to me. Did the Cyberdemon in Doom 3 have any UAC logos on it? I guess it could be the Cyberdemon rebuilding/repairing itself with human tech after Doom 3. In the original Doom I always assumed the demons just had cyber stuff themselves, because why not.
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Does anyone know how different the PlayStation version of quake2 is? I have fond memories of playing with a multitap and just owning my friends outright. As far as sounds in that game, you have to give it to the railgun and the wonderful jumping noises. Huuaahh huaaahh ooooohhhhhhhhh
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Pretty sure Quake is also the game where falling damage is represented by the sounds of your legs splintering.  e: I should say that it started that tradition, since as Segmentation Fault said, Half-Life and TF2 also do this. RyokoTK fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Jun 11, 2014 |
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Jun 11, 2014 13:23
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Yep, it really does sound like they had people jump off buildings to record their legs breaking. If they combined it with the heretic falling scream it would be perfect.
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RyokoTK posted:Pretty sure Quake is also the game where falling damage is represented by the sounds of your legs splintering. Half-Life and Team Fortress 2 both do this as well.
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Kazvall posted:Does anyone know how different the PlayStation version of quake2 is? I have fond memories of playing with a multitap and just owning my friends outright. As far as sounds in that game, you have to give it to the railgun and the wonderful jumping noises. Huuaahh huaaahh ooooohhhhhhhhh Quake 2 for the PS1 had almost completely different levels, in both single and multiplayer. It plays ok on emulators, since you can hack together a functional dual stick control scheme.
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My autismal self has started doing video commentary/LP-ish stuff for Marathon Phoenix, which is the mod that I made for Marathon. I use the videos to comment on level design choices and I try to tie the commentary into other early FPSes like Doom. The videos were more targeted at the Marathon forums than this thread, but you might find them interesting too.
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Elliotw2 posted:Quake 2 for the PS1 had almost completely different levels, in both single and multiplayer. It plays ok on emulators, since you can hack together a functional dual stick control scheme. I see. This was a time before dual sticks so luckily I didn't know what I was missing.
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Cardboard Box A posted:Yeah I dunno if it means that or if the demons are appropriating human technology for themselves. I always took it that the forces of hell found a bunch of human toys laying around, then decided to crudely reverse-engineer them. Cue mechanical horrors.
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closeted republican posted:I will always remember the "ping!" sound grenades make when they hit the ground. It's easily one of my favorite Q1 sound effects. It wasn't so much a "ping" to me as a "conk conk conk" But yeah that sound ruled RyokoTK posted:Quake's sound effects are so goddamn good and it's probably the underrated star of the game. Two effects stick out for me: the armor pickup (ching ching!) or the nailgun firing. The sounds made the lovely little nailgun seem so badass and cool. Those were good too. Don't forget "QUAD DAMAGE WHUMMMMMMM" Oh wait, I take it back. The most memorable Quake 1 sound effects were all Grunts breathing. Keiya posted:If it does flop, I vote we rush in with a plan to save the franchise and try to get Zenimax funding. (The plan being, of course, to make Doom IV on a modified idtech1, retroactively declare Doom 64 Doom III, and say that non-roman-numeraled games other than the first don't count. It'd probably be profitable too, seeing how little money you'd have to put into it...) I kind of want this to seriously happen
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I remember going out of my way to make a new sound effect for The Original in TF2, so that instead of the normal crit noise, it explicitly made the Quad Damage sound. I almost wonder why it didn't to begin with!
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Segmentation Fault posted:Half-Life and Team Fortress 2 both do this as well. I'm pretty sure the Half-Life sound is the exact same audio as Quake (it being the basis for the game engine) and TF2 probably uses it just to continue the tradition.
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haveblue posted:I'm pretty sure the Half-Life sound is the exact same audio as Quake (it being the basis for the game engine) and TF2 probably uses it just to continue the tradition. No, it's different. The Q1 crunch is a lot more loud and meaty-sounding than the one in HL1. The Q1 sound makes you think "holy gently caress, that had to hurt!", while the HL1 sound is "ohhh. ouch!".
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Unholy Realms is a really great wad for Doom. Thanks to whoever recommended it. Also, I uploaded a pack of Doom add-ons that provide a sort of "Vanilla-Plus" experience. They should be compatible with all vanilla map-packs. http://www.mediafire.com/download/je7pa8bc6q3ad31/Doom_Bouchacha_Pack.zip This includes: - PK's Smooth weapons: modified so that the pistol/shotgun/chaingun have vertical spread too (proportional to the SSG). This does reduce their effectiveness as sniping weapons, but also gets rid of the completely straight bullet-holes the normal weapons leave behind. - PK's upgraded SFX - Doom Expanded HUD: made to work with the modified weapons. Very clean HUD but worth it for the 'berserker' status icon alone. - Pistol Start: made to work with the modified pistol - Alternative Palette: De-saturates the greens and blues and makes it a bit 'warmer' and a lot less ugly IMO - Bloodfix: Isn't it annoying how cacodemons bleed red? This is made to match the alternative palette. - Smart Scavenger: Walk over a box of bullets when you have 399 and instead of swallowing the whole thing it cascades into clips. - Sprite Fix (SPRFIX13.WAD Doom 2 only): Properly aligns sprites and makes other small modification in the vein of correcting errors. Ex. Punching revenants do not 'jump forward' when viewed from the side. I already posted these in the OP but here there in one zip file. Unzip it and have fun. Bouchacha fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Jun 13, 2014 |
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Bouchacha posted:Also, I uploaded a pack of Doom add-ons that provide a sort of "Vanilla-Plus" experience. They should be compatible with all vanilla map-packs. Awesome, I've been looking for more of these. Thanks for keeping the original wads intact too because I'm gay and have to organize everything. This one depends on your vanilla tastes but SBrightmaps.pk3 makes monster eyes and some other things glow in the dark, but appear normal in full light. lizardhunt fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Jun 12, 2014 |
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Are there any other significant add-ons that replace the sound in Doom? The sound of weapons specifically.
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Doom 4 looks fine so far, not really seeing any reason to be worried other than "NEW GAMES BAD  "Brovstin posted:Are there any other significant add-ons that replace the sound in Doom? The sound of weapons specifically. Why would you want this 
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Doom 4 doesnt really look like anything so far, just a nicely rendered video of a cyberdemon. I remember hearing something about the developers saying it would be closer to the old games than Doom 3 in terms of gameplay though which sounds promising.
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SALT CURES HAM posted:Doom 4 looks fine so far, not really seeing any reason to be worried other than "NEW GAMES BAD You haven't seen anything about Doom 4 except a CGI-rendered video, and it bears all the hallmarks of modern "AAA" bullshit checking-off-the-boxes. The nod to the retro with the door sound, the 'gritty dark reboot', the 'new game taking the name of the old one'. What part of that video 'looks fine'?
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SALT CURES HAM posted:Doom 4 looks fine so far, not really seeing any reason to be worried other than "NEW GAMES BAD http://kotaku.com/five-years-and-nothing-to-show-how-doom-4-got-off-trac-468097062 http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-id-Software-RVW4012058.htm
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horse mans posted:You haven't seen anything about Doom 4 except a CGI-rendered video, and it bears all the hallmarks of modern "AAA" bullshit checking-off-the-boxes. The nod to the retro with the door sound, the 'gritty dark reboot', the 'new game taking the name of the old one'. What part of that video 'looks fine'? What part of the video looks like anything? Who gives a poo poo? Can we wait until there's some gameplay before we pass judgment?
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RyokoTK posted:What part of the video looks like anything? Who gives a poo poo? Can we wait until there's some gameplay before we pass judgment? The video looks like the intentions of the developers and the producers, and informs who we can guess their target audience to be. We can pass judgement on the video. We can't pass judgement on "Doom 4" because none of us have seen Doom 4.
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We can pass judgment on the process that has led us to this point, and the incredibly high likelihood of Doom 4 being crap as a result of that process.
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SALT CURES HAM posted:Doom 4 looks fine so far, not really seeing any reason to be worried other than "NEW GAMES BAD Game's been in development like 4 years, been re-designed like 3 times, and as of now all they have for us is a teaser. There's more than a little reason to be concerned.
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