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Pick posted:A man in the Belgian Congo is forced to consider the severed hand and foot of one of his children. He didn't make his quota. I'm sad now
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Sep 22, 2017 11:23
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Pick posted:A man in the Belgian Congo is forced to consider the severed hand and foot of one of his children. He didn't make his quota. There's a creepy images thread https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3683389 I think it would fit better there.
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Sep 22, 2017 11:28
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Sarcopenia posted:There's a creepy images thread https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3683389 eh, creepy is like a haunted vagina. Unsettling is like the depths of humans inhumanity to man and I think this fits
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Sep 22, 2017 11:30
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Trauma Dog 3000 posted:eh, creepy is like a haunted vagina. Unsettling is like the depths of humans inhumanity to man and I think this fits I just don't want this thread to get filled with images when there is already a thread for it but it's just one
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Sep 22, 2017 11:49
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The Snoo posted:i have a family member who was abused by the priest and he had threatened her and her family, so like. The Catholic church cares so much more about covering their own asses and shifting verifiable pedophiles from parish to parish than they do about protecting their members. Like in this case they took Maskell from a place where he was raping little boys and sent him to a girls school, I guess assuming he wouldn't find anyone to rape? Maybe not 100% of the church is totally shady but it feels like everyone has at least some involvement in participating in the cover-up. Either through looking the other way or by directly covering poo poo up. The part I can't get over in this case is the fact that they dug up a trove of child pornography that this priest buried in a local cemetery, where those present could testify it was child pornography, and then promptly the pile of photos and written confessions from the priest just danced off into another dimension because no one in law enforcement remembered it existing. Might have had something to do with the fact that a bunch of police officers were also involved in the rapes... I expected that behavior from the church but not from the police.
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Sep 22, 2017 13:05
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JibbaJabberwocky posted:The Catholic church cares so much more about covering their own asses and shifting verifiable pedophiles from parish to parish than they do about protecting their members. Like in this case they took Maskell from a place where he was raping little boys and sent him to a girls school, I guess assuming he wouldn't find anyone to rape? Maybe not 100% of the church is totally shady but it feels like everyone has at least some involvement in participating in the cover-up. Either through looking the other way or by directly covering poo poo up. I believe that the police are worse than the church in every respect, and that is intended in no way to make light of the evils that the Catholic church has perpetrated. They’re both quite rotten.
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Sep 22, 2017 14:17
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A particularly messed up cult leader I had never heard of before: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Roch_Th%C3%A9riault
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Sep 22, 2017 15:02
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JibbaJabberwocky posted:I expected that behavior from the church but not from the police. Have...have you not been paying attention to anything the last couple of years?
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Sep 22, 2017 15:02
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Proteus Jones posted:1st: thanks for the picture with no warning and embedded you sick gently caress. This isn't the dumping the ground for your torture porn. Solice Kirsk posted:I'm pretty sure King Leopold's Ghost was mentioned in this thread before, but it just got recommended to me by a Congolese refugee client of mine. I only just started reading it, but it's pretty heavy. I knew a little bit of what happened, but holy poo poo was it worse than I could have imagined.
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Sep 22, 2017 15:05
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It's been years since I read King Leopold's Ghost, amd it's still one of the most downer books I've ever read. Especially the epilogue where it talks about how these atrocities and worse were being committed in basically every colony in Africa at the time, but all went relatively unnoticed compared to the huge international attention and outcry the Belgian Congo produced. It sends a chill up my spine to this day.
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Sep 22, 2017 15:39
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Though that picture isn't really bad gore or whatever it is probably best to direct link to things like that. As others mentioned there is a creepy picture thread though I don't think it's too off-topic if a photo is occasionally posted here 
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EmmyOk posted:Though that picture isn't really bad gore or whatever it is probably best to direct link to things like that. As others mentioned there is a creepy picture thread though I don't think it's too off-topic if a photo is occasionally posted here I don't do well with those kinds of pictures. But yeah, I didn't sleep too well last night and I know I over-reacted. (and I can't believe I'd ever type this ---v ) Sorry, Pick. It was unjustified of me to jump all over because I was grumpy.
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Yeah, please in the future just link with warnings if there's photos involving dead/maimed kids. I'm a mom and that's my limit. Re: Congo, I just noticed the Kindle version of King Leopold's Ghost was only $9.99, so I bought it and am reading it already. Thanks again for the recommendation. Also just purchased on Amazon, in a similar vein: Hitler's Death Camps. Read this several times in college and it has stayed with me, glad to finally find a copy under $50. Pretty good overview from an Amazon reviewer: quote:This book is perhaps the most comprehensive book on the concentration camp system. It offers insight into the make up each and every individual camp including the ghastly actions that took place inside the camps. Konnilyn Feig has done extensive research on this subject and should be regarded as one of the world's leading authorities on the holocaust and final solution. This book is a necessity for anyone trying to comprehend the madness that took place in Nazi Germany. It gives names, dates and places along with instructions on how to get to each of the camps. This book should be read before visiting any of the holocaust camps and/or museums. "Hitler's Death Camps" is currently in the National Holocaust museum. Anyone wanting to know anything about the holocaust and/or final solution needs to read this book. Basically if you have an autistic obsession with the factual/statistical details of the death camps, this is the book for you.
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Sep 22, 2017 16:27
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JibbaJabberwocky posted:The part I can't get over in this case is the fact that they dug up a trove of child pornography that this priest buried in a local cemetery, where those present could testify it was child pornography, and then promptly the pile of photos and written confessions from the priest just danced off into another dimension because no one in law enforcement remembered it existing. Might have had something to do with the fact that a bunch of police officers were also involved in the rapes... I expected that behavior from the church but not from the police. The priesthood self-selects for men with sex issues. That's why so many of them end up loosing control and loving something they shouldn't. And why the church covers it up. (also nuns). I'm close with several people that were sexually abused by adults in power (mostly priests) - I think Keepers could have told a better and more true story.
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Sep 22, 2017 16:40
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Pick posted:A man in the Belgian Congo is forced to consider the severed hand and foot of one of his children. He didn't make his quota. http://www.au-praline.be/producten/?g=13
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Sep 22, 2017 16:43
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soundsection posted:A particularly messed up cult leader I had never heard of before: I find cults a really interesting thing to read about, but I hadn't actually heard of this guy. He seems so normal, late seventies weirdo cult leader that I initially was kind of eh, that then I got to this part: quote:His punishments included making members break their own legs with sledgehammers, sitting on lit stoves, shooting each other in the shoulders, and eating dead mice and feces. A follower would sometimes be asked to cut off another follower's toes with wire cutters to prove loyalty. The children were not spared, and not only were they sexually abused, but they were also at times held over fires or would be nailed to trees while other children threw stones at them. Thériault was also responsible for the death of his own infant, as he left the child outside during a blizzard.
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pookel posted:Hitler's Death Camps. . Scourge of the Swastika, in a similar vein https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Scourge+of+the+swastika
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Tendai posted:I find cults a really interesting thing to read about, but I hadn't actually heard of this guy. He seems so normal, late seventies weirdo cult leader that I initially was kind of eh, that then I got to this part: Yeah, sucks for the followers that the guy they decided to believe was the second coming was a sexual sadist. #cultist_world_problems
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Sep 22, 2017 23:50
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TenCentFang posted:Have...have you not been paying attention to anything the last couple of years? Do I fully expect men with power complexes to go into the police force and kill people of color without reason? Absolutely yes. Do I expect them to turn a blind eye to child rape because other police officers were doing the raping? Not so much.
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Sep 23, 2017 01:01
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JibbaJabberwocky posted:Do I fully expect men with power complexes to go into the police force and kill people of color without reason? Absolutely yes. Do I expect them to turn a blind eye to child rape because other police officers were doing the raping? Not so much. Oh to be so naive.
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Tendai posted:I find cults a really interesting thing to read about, but I hadn't actually heard of this guy. He seems so normal, late seventies weirdo cult leader that I initially was kind of eh, that then I got to this part: Didn't expect it to get even worse after the bit you quoted. :| And I can't say I feel bad about how he ended up: quote:Thériault was found dead near his cell, February 26, 2011, at Dorchester Penitentiary, in New Brunswick. He was 63 years old. His death is believed to be the result of an altercation with his cell mate, Matthew Gerrard MacDonald, 60, of Port au Port, N.L, who killed Thériault and has been charged with the killing. MacDonald pleaded guilty to second degree murder and was sentenced to life in prison (having already been serving a life sentence for a previous murder charge). MacDonald stabbed Thériault in the neck with a homemade knife. Afterwards, he walked to the guards' station, handed them the knife and proclaimed, "That piece of poo poo is down on the range. Here's the knife, I've sliced him up." ETA: Murderpedia goes into a LOT more detail about this dude. I'm not going to quote because so much is horrifying, but a key point of interest is that the cult was investigated for child abuse & molestation multiple times, AND several members had been convicted of various crimes and then released from prison, before some of the worst crimes occurred. http://www.murderpedia.org/male.T/t/theriault-roch.htm pookel has a new favorite as of 19:05 on Sep 23, 2017 |
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Sep 23, 2017 18:56
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I like to remain optimistic; people DO sometimes change their minds about things. Sometimes. Frank Zappa has been famously quoted/misquoted in various ways as saying that no one ever changes their mind about anything, and I will admit based on my experience, it is really painfully difficult to make someone change their mind if they've based their life philosophy on misquoting Frank Zappa.
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Watching trashy TV has led to looking up articles about the Kirtland Cult Killings. LDS members upset at the church's modernization begin to hover around Jeff Lundgren, a Mormon with quite a gift for speaking and a belief in more traditional aspects of the religion. Lundgren's fellowship grows and he opts to move them to Kirtland, Ohio, because Joseph Smith had a church there. He gets into a rift with the temple in Kirtland and the group splinters to their own farm. Lundgren's ideas are getting a bit more extreme as he commands everyone to treat him like a prophet. In the meantime, a family of Lundgren's original followers had been reticent to join him, but finally agree to do so. Lundgren gets the cult to lightly shun them, even though the Avery family is completely devoted. As control tightens, he makes members of the cult turn over their money. Lundgren uses this to buy a lot of weapons as a holy war is coming any day. He also begins taking additional wives, ones already married to cult members. The Averys are still shunned and Lundgren tells the other members that there is sin in the cult and it must be cast out. The Averys are the sinners as the wife is more dominant in the relationship. On the eve of the cult leaving Ohio for a more remote location, they invite the Avery family over (who were invited to go along). The invite was a ruse. Lundgren gets the members to bring each Avery family member to the barn, where he murders them one by one, parents and three small children. The group does leave, but someone with a slight bit of conscience spills the beans. Authorities had gotten a report the Averys were missing, but thought they left with the group. Then they begin excavating the barn after the tip. Lundgren's caught and quickly convicted. He gave a five-hour sermon during his trial about how he was justified in the murders. Edit: That link doesn't really get into many of the details. Here are some others Kirtland Cult Killings were 'mandated by God' Cult members break their silence Surprisingly decent contemporary People article RC and Moon Pie has a new favorite as of 03:25 on Sep 26, 2017 |
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Sep 26, 2017 02:08
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From the description, I was expecting this to be from like the 1800s. The murders we're in 1989 
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Sep 26, 2017 02:22
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I'm late to the comments here, but if you want to see more about the Anna Stubblefield FC thing, PBS did a doc in the 90s called "Prisoners of Silence"; it's on YouTube. It was known as a sham 20 years ago. AAC (iPads, PECS, switches, etc.) is different. I have seen people use AAC unassisted, including one man who points at letters in the alphabet to spell words to communicate. This is not especially common. FC is *not* that -- FC includes the "facilitator" holding the letters, or the arm of the person, and this is where manipulation is so obvious. If you want to see what it looks like, there is a "famous" person called "Soma" who uses FC. If you watch her YouTube videos, she quickly and aggressively moves the people she's "assisting." When you know what's going on, it's very obvious. It's also sad, because it preys on people who believe that there is someone "trapped" inside of their special needs child...a real genius, if only they knew how to reach their child. They can't reach their child, hence it's their fault. The moral of the Anna Stubblefield story is she literally fell in love with herself. It's sad and gross, and a man was abused (some might say raped) in the process.
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Sep 26, 2017 04:07
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A Pinball Wizard posted:From the description, I was expecting this to be from like the 1800s. The murders we're in 1989 Making The LDS Church Great Again
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nocal posted:I'm late to the comments here, but if you want to see more about the Anna Stubblefield FC thing, PBS did a doc in the 90s called "Prisoners of Silence"; it's on YouTube. It was known as a sham 20 years ago. Furthermore, Dr. Anna Stubbefield's daughter came to the courtroom to protest her mother's innocence while wearing a Rick and Morty t-shirt featuring "Tiny Rick"
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Sep 26, 2017 04:12
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Pick posted:Furthermore, Dr. Anna Stubbefield's daughter came to the courtroom to protest her mother's innocence while wearing a Rick and Morty t-shirt featuring "Tiny Rick" She didn't take the stand or anything did she? Cause even skinheads get dressed up and cover their tattoos for court.
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Sep 26, 2017 04:22
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Solice Kirsk posted:She didn't take the stand or anything did she? Cause even skinheads get dressed up and cover their tattoos for court. Make like Naruto and believe it. 
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Sep 26, 2017 05:55
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Good to see the british courts taking a stand against domestic violence: Oxford student who stabbed boyfriend gets suspended sentence
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Sep 26, 2017 06:41
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Trauma Dog 3000 posted:Good to see the british courts taking a stand against domestic violence: Rich people can't commit crimes.
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Pick posted:Make like Naruto and believe it. man i've defended rick and morty lovers for a while because they're not all dumb pompous weirdos but apparently some of them are actually nihilistic crazies
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nocal posted:The moral of the Anna Stubblefield story is she literally fell in love with herself. It's sad and gross, and a man was abused
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Sep 26, 2017 11:03
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did I ever tell y'all about the time I defended myself in court wearing this sweatshirt that's kind of the whole story
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Sep 26, 2017 12:06
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Pastry of the Year posted:did I ever tell y'all about the time I defended myself in court wearing this sweatshirt No, but now I want to hear it more than anything in the world.
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darkwasthenight posted:Rich people can't commit crimes. Sentence she got was perfectly reasonable. Read the ruling the judge made: quote:When I turn to look, however, for mitigating features the picture is very different. There are many mitigating features in your case. Principally, at the age of 24 you have no previous convictions of any nature whatsoever. Secondly, I find that you were genuinely remorseful following this event and, indeed, although it was against your bail conditions you contacted your partner to fully confess your guilt and your deep sorrow for what happened. Thirdly, whilst you are clearly a highly intelligent individual, you had an immaturity about you which was not commensurate for someone of your age. Fourthly, as the reports from the experts make clear, you suffer from an emotionally unstable personality disorder, a severe eating disorder and alcohol drug dependence. Finally, and most significantly, you have demonstrated over the last nine months that you are determined to rid yourself of your alcohol/drug addiction and have undergone extensive treatment including counselling to address the many issues that you face. In particular, you have demonstrated to me since I adjourned this matter in May a strong and unwavering determination so to do despite the enormous pressure under which you were put and which has been referred to by your learned counsel.
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