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Sub Harrison posted:The Strawhats are setting up to take down Kaido, while Blackbeard will finish off Big Mom. Then it'll be Luffy, Teach and Shanks racing to Raftel. So did you skip the last page of this chapter or what.
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Sub Harrison posted:loving CALLED it they're running away! Blackbeard is showing up to finish the Big Mom pirates cause what else are they doing with the weapons they stole from the Revs lmao Oda spends an entire chapter having Brook, Nami, and Bege repeat "run away!" talking points from this thread and then undercuts it on the last page with Luffy being Luffy, and people still think they're going to run away.
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Jun 30, 2017 05:41
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at this point theyre going to run away (after luffy repels big mom or whatever hes doing). they dont have nearly the manpower to take down all of big mom's forces. of course this is one piece and some crazy intervention might happen but they're not fighting this with the manpower they currently have.
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Jun 30, 2017 05:58
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i legitimately have no care which direction it goes. oda's storytelling broke out of a sorta rut post timeskip and has been so on point in every aspect - dialogue, events, character design, panel layout - for a while now and this arc is loving amazing.
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Jun 30, 2017 06:03
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i dont think they can just get away. something else crazy has to happen. we're at the arc climax so something loving insane has to finish off the arc imo... (and no oddium, jinbe wont die)
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Jun 30, 2017 06:10
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They're not going to run away until Pudding takes a hit for Sanji and he gets real mad and beats Big Mum up himself.
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Jun 30, 2017 06:14
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I noticed something very important going through the chapter again: Pandawoman has a gatling gun.
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Jun 30, 2017 06:17
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I'm glad we're at the point where every Supernova is getting to do something cool and good and inevitably join the Strawhat Armada. If Oda could make Bege into a legit cool dude despite his backstory being "the most Chaotic Neutral gangster" and being kinda dull until Whole Cake, I'm looking forward to seeing how he manages to salvage Hawkins. And the eventual reveal of what Jewelry Bonney's deal actually is
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Jun 30, 2017 08:22
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Dragonatrix posted:And the eventual reveal of what Jewelry Bonney's deal actually is Eating pizza and reading news.
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Jun 30, 2017 08:24
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I definitely want to see more of the Supernovas in general. I'm looking forward to Kaido because that's where half of them are/were before Kaido crushed them, and I'm interested in finding out more about Drake and what his goals are. Bonney would also be cool to see again because she's great.
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Jun 30, 2017 08:28
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i really like the supernovas all having their own goals and means to achieve their goals and it would feel cheapened with all the supernovas just joining in various points (also with all that god drat time we spent on the strawhat armada in dressrosa i expect that to be the gang) like x drake and bonnery will probably help the straw hats in some way the apoo alliance seemed really loving cool until kidd got jobbed beyond belief and then based urouge did what kidd could only dream of (maybe after getting jobbed the entire manga kidd awakens his fruit and crashes the moon that enel is on down to earth) drjuggalo fucked around with this message at 09:07 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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Jun 30, 2017 09:02
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MonsterEnvy posted:It's kind of amazing how everyone turned around on Bege in such a short time. I've always been big on bege 
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Jun 30, 2017 09:13
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All the Supernovas are cool. Which is why it's going to be great when Kaidou arc happens because like 5 of them will be around of various allegiances. E: drjuggalo posted:i really like the supernovas all having their own goals and means to achieve their goals and it would feel cheapened with all the supernovas just joining in various points (also with all that god drat time we spent on the strawhat armada in dressrosa i expect that to be the gang) Kidd got beat once by a Yonkou I think you can cut him some slack. SyntheticPolygon fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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Jun 30, 2017 09:31
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SyntheticPolygon posted:All the Supernovas are cool. Which is why it's going to be great when Kaidou arc happens because like 5 of them will be around of various allegiances. twice by a yonkou. he lost his arm to big mom and just got offscreened by kaido
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Jun 30, 2017 10:07
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Kild posted:twice by a yonkou. he lost his arm to big mom and just got offscreened by kaido Losing an arm in a timeskip and replacing it with a giant mechanical one ain't really jobbing though.
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Jun 30, 2017 10:30
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lowercase16 posted:lmao Oda spends an entire chapter having Brook, Nami, and Bege repeat "run away!" talking points from this thread and then undercuts it on the last page with Luffy being Luffy, and people still think they're going to run away. It's not just Luffy being Luffy, it's Sanji being Sanji. His family went out to act as a sacrifice and distract Big Mom's forces long enough that Gangster Gastino could airlift everyone else out and fly away, something that would imply his family couldn't get away and which not just Luffy, but Sanji wouldn't stand for. As long as someone is left behind neither of them is really going to go for it, and someone has to be left behind for that plan to work. Which means it's not going to happen. I have no idea how someone could read that last page and conclusively figure it's proof they're running away. drjuggalo posted:i really like the supernovas all having their own goals and means to achieve their goals and it would feel cheapened with all the supernovas just joining in various points (also with all that god drat time we spent on the strawhat armada in dressrosa i expect that to be the gang) I doubt all the Supernovas are going to join the Strawhat fleet, but I'd imagine at least a few will and don't see how they (or anyone else) joining the fleet and it not just being forever the initial 7 child crews cheapens things or why it would have to be because there was so much time spent on those particular crews in the arc that established Luffy having a fleet. That'd be like saying the crew should forever have stopped growing after Enies Lobby because we spent so long on Robin and Franky.
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Jun 30, 2017 11:36
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SyntheticPolygon posted:They're not going to run away until Pudding takes a hit for Sanji and he gets real mad and beats Big Mum up himself. Man, you just don't get Sanji at all. On the other hand Sanji likes Pudding and she did feed Luffy. If she gets hurt protecting Sanji then Luffy's gonna get real teed off. The real turning point is going to be Luffy finding out Streusel can turn anything into meat, and then Big Mom will Merc him and Luffy's hat will turn black with rage.
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Jun 30, 2017 14:22
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theyre running away because they just dont have the means to win. everyone, even the germa, agree that its an impossible fight. luffy and sanji are working with the germa to ensure caesar and bege arent intercepted but they wont be too far behind when everyone else is safe. its going to be hard enough to escape and im betting some of the germa kids or judge may not make it out
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Jun 30, 2017 17:22
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Some said it was impossible to face down the World Government and get someone back from CP9. Others said it was impossible to break into and out of I'll Impel Down. To Luffy, impossible is just a word.
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Jun 30, 2017 17:28
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Snazzy Frocks posted:everyone, even the germa, agree that its an impossible fight. Everyone, except Luffy. Who has multiple times made attempts to start fighting.
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Jun 30, 2017 17:35
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Snazzy Frocks posted:theyre running away because they just dont have the means to win. everyone, even the germa, agree that its an impossible fight. luffy and sanji are working with the germa to ensure caesar and bege arent intercepted but they wont be too far behind when everyone else is safe. its going to be hard enough to escape and im betting some of the germa kids or judge may not make it out Luffy is running away from running away.
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Jun 30, 2017 17:38
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well unless luffy is about to develop some power capable of eliminating an entire yonkou army i dont know what youre expecting
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Jun 30, 2017 17:42
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Snazzy Frocks posted:well unless luffy is about to develop some power capable of eliminating an entire yonkou army i dont know what youre expecting Everyone trained for 2 years for a situation like this. Nami and Chopper just need to learn to believe in themselves.
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Jun 30, 2017 17:50
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me, in what is apparently my first time ever reading a one piece chapter: things ain't looking great for this Mr Monkey here... he's gonna fall back
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Jun 30, 2017 17:53
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people also said i was crazy when i predicted that carmel had big moms powers and big mom ate her to get them
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Jun 30, 2017 17:59
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Shoren posted:Some said it was impossible to face down the World Government and get someone back from CP9. Others said it was impossible to break into and out of I'll Impel Down. To Luffy, impossible is just a word. Sure, but Luffy didn't defeat Magellan while escaping Impel Down, and didn't even fight the Buster Call VAs while escaping Enies Lobby.
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Jun 30, 2017 18:02
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Snazzy Frocks posted:well unless luffy is about to develop some power capable of eliminating an entire yonkou army i dont know what youre expecting Sanji, Nami, Chopper, Carrot, the Germa 66 and possibly others to fight toe to toe with various members of Big Mom's crew while Luffy takes on Big Mom. He doesn't need to defeat her whole army, because he's got allies with him to help do it, even if some of them are reluctant. Silver2195 posted:Sure, but Luffy didn't defeat Magellan while escaping Impel Down, and didn't even fight the Buster Call VAs while escaping Enies Lobby. He also never talked about defeating either of those and was already spent fighting other government forces in Enies Lobby, one of whom was probably far stronger than any of those Vice Admirals regardless. tsob fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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Jun 30, 2017 18:04
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theyre outnumbered by far and we dont even know what gatling gun crazy panda girl even does
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Jun 30, 2017 18:06
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Snazzy Frocks posted:theyre outnumbered by far and we dont even know what gatling gun crazy panda girl even does The Strawhats were also outnumber by a factor of tens of thousands at Fishman Island, that didn't make any difference there.
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Jun 30, 2017 18:10
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Snazzy Frocks posted:theyre outnumbered by far and we dont even know what gatling gun crazy panda girl even does Probably job to the Strawhats.
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Jun 30, 2017 18:14
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Snazzy Frocks posted:theyre outnumbered by far and we dont even know what gatling gun crazy panda girl even does Luffy beat up a thousand strong army single handed while starving in the rain. The Straw Hats collectively destroyed a giant army just after the timeskip. The strongest commander is already down, Sanji dodged an attack by the second strongest, Chopper captured another, Pedro matched another in a duel. They are all set to take on Big Mom.
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Jun 30, 2017 18:15
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Luffy beat up a thousand strong army single handed while starving in the rain. The Straw Hats collectively destroyed a giant army just after the timeskip. The strongest commander is already down, Sanji dodged an attack by the second strongest, Chopper captured another, Pedro matched another in a duel. They are all set to take on Big Mom. No, Luffy lost that fight. And Cracker was second-strongest at best; Katakuri is the strongest. Pedro matched Tamago, who isn't even a Sweet Commander.
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Jun 30, 2017 18:18
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Snazzy Frocks posted:theyre outnumbered by far and we dont even know what gatling gun crazy panda girl even does This entire chapter was about why running away isn't going to happen. So it's not going to happen.
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Jun 30, 2017 18:19
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guys even if luffy theoretically is too weak to take down big mom, he still has to be strong enough to take down kaidou considering that's the next arc lol every single arc has luffy struggle at the mid point.
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Jun 30, 2017 18:21
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Snazzy Frocks posted:theyre outnumbered by far and we dont even know what gatling gun crazy panda girl even does There's definitely not a way Luffy can get really angry, yell, and disable the vast majority of Big Mom's crew in such a way that only the elite fighters that he, Sanji, Bege's crew, his crew and the Germa would have to handle.
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Jun 30, 2017 18:39
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I just realized that this thread is going to be arguing about this until either Tottoland is far behind on the horizon or Luffy lands the knockout blow on Big Mom and got really tired.
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oddium posted:me, in what is apparently my first time ever reading a one piece chapter: things ain't looking great for this Mr Monkey here... he's gonna fall back How can he get past that Sea King? It took Shank's arm!
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Jun 30, 2017 18:40
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there are only a few people on big mam's side who actually matter and jinbe is there too
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Jun 30, 2017 18:59
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Cloks posted:How can he get past that Sea King? It took Shank's arm! That only became strange hundreds of chapters after the fact, though.
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i honestly don't understand how someone could read that chapter, where they had a single chance to escape and didn't, and think they're still going to run away
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