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zaurg
Mar 1, 2004
You were right, klafbang. Sometimes it's best to just keep it simple. I don't mind the manual entry of transactions.

I'll still post my February budget before February. But I simply request a template to fill out so that BFC will understand it. Maybe I can copy Knyteguy's format, people seemed to understand that and congratulate him heavily every time he posted it until he vanished.

Here was KG's August 2019 budget, can I just steal this format so everyone will understand it and I'll stop posting the drat Google docs everyone hates?

KG's August 2019 budget:

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Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

klafbang posted:

Just as it looked like c) was going to win, a) comes out of the crypt o’ currencies to pull ahead. Good job everyone (not zaurg), we did it!

what a brainwormed loving baby

zaurg
Mar 1, 2004
So much time wasted here. I posted 33 times in this thread today alone. I have some issues. I can't do it anymore, I must stop. Coming back from the probation was a bad decision on my part.

I've unshared my google docs and will see myself out. Need to focus more time on work and life and yes, my finances. I'll just have to do it without BFC's help. Perhaps down the road I'll pop back in and say hi just to get a taste of that sweet BFC piss.

Goals:
1/1/2021: Get net worth not including home increased from $112k to $140k. Take care of myself and continue improving health. Handle and budget for home repair/maintenance issues.
6/1/2028: At age 50 have $500k in savings and condo mortgage paid off. Same goal from previous thread. It's doable.

Nam Taf
Jun 25, 2005

I am Fat Man, hear me roar!

zaurg posted:

I have some issues.
No poo poo.

zaurg posted:

Perhaps down the road I'll pop back in and say hi just to get a taste of that sweet BFC piss.
Please don’t.

You managed to last exactly 3 weeks. That’s a new personal worst. Congratulations!

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013
can't make budget for february might as well just leave forever

i'll give him 18 hours

Leng
May 13, 2006

One song / Glory
One song before I go / Glory
One song to leave behind


No other road
No other way
No day but today

zaurg posted:

Leng
Let's say you go to the store and buy
$15 gifts
$15 beer
$15 grocery
1 TRANSACTION but it goes towards 3 budgeted categories

When I use Excel I add 3 lines to my transactions, 1 for each of those categories (Gifts, Fun, Groceries)

Can I do that easily in Pocketsmith?


gently caress this is why I don't like these drat apps. Nothing beats Excel. Also why can't I confirm all 35 "Publix" transactions at once? Cool I have to click "OK" on each one individually this is FUN. Yes, I setup a Category Rule as you showed me but it still doesn't let me confirm them all.

1. Yes. It's called "splitting the transaction"
https://learn.pocketsmith.com/article/200-editing-deleting-or-splitting-a-transaction#splitting

2. You don't have to confirm individually. There's a) a setting you can configure and b) a bulk actions option

https://learn.pocketsmith.com/article/63-reviewing-imported-transactions

zaurg posted:

Leng thank you for your help, it's certainly more than I deserve. The Pocketsmith idea was good obviously since it works for you but I've been fighting with it for a while now and I'm done.



Cancelling it now, not going to waste any more money on this. I am fine with continuing manual transaction entry into Excel fine for now.

klafbang posted:

Just as it looked like c) was going to win, a) comes out of the crypt o’ currencies to pull ahead. Good job everyone (not zaurg), we did it!

Leng posted:

My guess is that he's already done it and hit the auto budget button, then saw the reality presented by Pocket Smith and just how far away from his internal perceptions that he's refusing to post results until he can get Pocket Smith to project something he likes.

Which it won't, obviously.

The "fighting Pocket Smith" is an excuse. It's a fairly intuitive UI and the basic features needed to complete this exercise are well documented.

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

He will be back in February with the January budget.

This is a normal part of the cycle.

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Leng posted:

The "fighting Pocket Smith" is an excuse. It's a fairly intuitive UI and the basic features needed to complete this exercise are well documented.

yep. he did it, it's easy to use and organise, but it told him the truth so he thought it was broken and has been desperately trying to make it lie to him like the spreadsheets can for a week.

Leng
May 13, 2006

One song / Glory
One song before I go / Glory
One song to leave behind


No other road
No other way
No day but today

Tashilicious posted:

yep. he did it, it's easy to use and organise, but it told him the truth so he thought it was broken and has been desperately trying to make it lie to him like the spreadsheets can for a week.

Yep. I also want to point out that I set him a time limit of 4 hours. The timestamps between the "I'll try it" post and the "I'm sticking to manual Excel" were 35 mins apart.

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Leng posted:

Yep. I also want to point out that I set him a time limit of 4 hours. The timestamps between the "I'll try it" post and the "I'm sticking to manual Excel" were 35 mins apart.

Not even sure if I wanna take a bet on if he did the import last week or just now. because either is equally likely

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
lol the autoban went through. coward

SiGmA_X
May 3, 2004
SiGmA_X

zaurg posted:

Leng
Let's say you go to the store and buy
$15 gifts
$15 beer
$15 grocery
1 TRANSACTION but it goes towards 3 budgeted categories

When I use Excel I add 3 lines to my transactions, 1 for each of those categories (Gifts, Fun, Groceries)

Can I do that easily in Pocketsmith?


gently caress this is why I don't like these drat apps. Nothing beats Excel. Also why can't I confirm all 35 "Publix" transactions at once? Cool I have to click "OK" on each one individually this is FUN. Yes, I setup a Category Rule as you showed me but it still doesn't let me confirm them all.
You split it. It's easy. At least it is in YNAB, Quicken, Mint, GNUcash...

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013
i'll give him until the weekend

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

Tashilicious posted:

lol the autoban went through. coward

He will just take $10 from his SA budget.


We know he will be back.


Heck, his alts are still here.

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

Ultimate Mango posted:

He will just take $10 from his SA budget.


We know he will be back.


Heck, his alts are still here.

Do autobans not eat your avatar like regular bans? His av is still showing up for me.

Moneyball
Jul 11, 2005

It's a problem you think we need to explain ourselves.
AFAIK, he was not banned when I hit him with the 100,000 hour six month probation, so he did not have to pay :10bux: then. But this is the second time he's banned himself, plus he just nuked his platinum upgrade. So when he comes back, that's $30 so far, for those of you keeping track.

Nam Taf
Jun 25, 2005

I am Fat Man, hear me roar!

Moneyball posted:

So when he comes back, that's $30 so far, for those of you keeping track.

Excuse me, here we measure all value in slices of pizza. That’s 10 slices right there.

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



the zaurg cycles are getting shorter :ohdear:

nocturama
Dec 26, 2007

The 3 dollar pizza story affects me quite a bit. Poor kid

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes
Poor zaurg, thought of budgets and autobanned.

Leng
May 13, 2006

One song / Glory
One song before I go / Glory
One song to leave behind


No other road
No other way
No day but today

Tashilicious posted:

Not even sure if I wanna take a bet on if he did the import last week or just now. because either is equally likely

I missed a few posts while I was catching up before, so I want to point out a few more things:

zaurg posted:

Goals:
1/1/2021: Get net worth not including home increased from $112k to $140k. Take care of myself and continue improving health. Handle and budget for home repair/maintenance issues.
6/1/2028: At age 50 have $500k in savings and condo mortgage paid off. Same goal from previous thread. It's doable.

The Premium plan on Pocket Smith projects your account balances 10 years into the future based on your past spending and budget (which if you use auto budget is based on your past spending also):

https://learn.pocketsmith.com/article/1246-using-the-calendar-and-forecast-graph

It's very nifty and fun - if your current financial habits are good and lead to steadily increasing net worth.

zaurg posted:

Found a bug in Pocketsmith
Do they even test

Leng posted:

His spreadsheets are a crutch however. It gives him the illusion that he gets it, an excuse to agonize over pennies while burning pounds and we spend more time arguing with him over how they're reconciliations whenever the thread stops snarling periodically.

Take away the spreadsheets so he can't fudge both the budgeted numbers and the reported numbers.

It will bring all the other issues to the fore without allowing him to mask them with spreadsheet fiddling.

<snip>

Yes, PocketSmith is more expensive. It is still way less money than what he blew on unwanted gifts. And it will show him visually and immediately the impacts that current and past zaurg is having on future zaurg in a form he can understand without the thread spending 5 pages fixing all of the deliberate sabotage to his spreadsheets in order to make it visible to everyone except OP.

Thank you thread for going along with the Pocket Smith challenge subplot!

Who wants to place bets that zaurg looked at the forecast balances on 1/1/2021, 1/1/2028 and 1/1/2030 and realized Pocket Smith confirmed what we were all telling him but he couldn't actually see?

My money is on import happened last week because we saw screenshots last week from the Pocket Smith on boarding tutorial. The silence is because a week was wasted on trying to fudge things using the tried and true tactic of category shifting.

Since said shifting was occurring in a proper budget software and not a poorly constructed error filled spreadsheet that conveniently omits transactions and carries forward the wrong balances, the failed endeavor indisputably proved in irrefutable visual terms that:
- you can't build net worth by spending more than you earn and
- not only is it truly possible for zaurg to burn through the liquidated equity from the house sale proceeds in less than 3 years, it is actually highly likely

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
And pissbaby, instead of actually going "oh. oh poo poo. maybe... gently caress maybe i gotta do something" had weeklong tantrum then autobanned to stop himself from facing that truth.

this puts a nice spin on him saying that this thread/forums are a cancer to him. Because it keeps making him look at himself in the mirror and he has to fight twice as hard to ignore it.

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


An ode to the zaman. As he is gone*

Ten years a man
Ten years a plan
Ten years with no Budget
Just a bunch of numbers in Excel he'd fudge it
Sold a house and thinks it's a gain wealth
Which does not speak well for financial health
He physically can't
He most assuredly shan't
Be living in anything but a box
He can't afford to get his kids pizza or socks
taZe your ballz
taZe your ballz


*Narrator: he isn't...

nashona
May 8, 2014

Though she be but little, she is fierce


Moneyball posted:

AFAIK, he was not banned when I hit him with the 100,000 hour six month probation, so he did not have to pay :10bux: then. But this is the second time he's banned himself, plus he just nuked his platinum upgrade. So when he comes back, that's $30 so far, for those of you keeping track.

Already paid the :10bux: lol

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

nashona posted:

Already paid the :10bux: lol

less than 12 hours. Like... six? maybe five?

Totally normal not at all broken pissbaby.

Nam Taf
Jun 25, 2005

I am Fat Man, hear me roar!

nashona posted:

Already paid the :10bux: lol
He's like a recurrant case of Forums Herpes.

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



nashona posted:

Already paid the :10bux: lol

Naw, his av still links to his rap sheet, so he's still banned, autobans don't give you the banned av

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Nam Taf posted:

He's like a recurrant case of Forums Herpes.

At least herpes can be controlled with medications

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Iron Crowned posted:

At least herpes can be controlled with medications

there are a lot of replies i could make to this but all of them would get me probed except;


piss is a medication.

doingitwrong
Jul 27, 2013
Still reading the old thread.

April posted:

Fifteenth verse, same as the first.....

BAE OF PIGS posted:

How's the November budget looking, Z?

Burt Sexual posted:

What’s zaurgs ban budget?

Tashilicious posted:

Zaurg has literally spent nearly 100$ from this thread alone.
The bans + regetting plat.

And that's not counting the money that rolled in from avatars, red texts, new emotes, and me rage buying plat to report his loving porn post.

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
lol i forgot that was why i got plat

Dwight Eisenhower
Jan 24, 2006

Indeed, I think that people want peace so much that one of these days governments had better get out of the way and let them have it.
We could have pooled $3000, bought bitcoin with it, and offered it as the carrot on the end of a stick to zaurg to just import transactions, categorize them, and run autobudget, and he still wouldn't have done it.

Denial's a hell of a drug.

Harry Potter on Ice
Nov 4, 2006


IF IM NOT BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHITTY MY LIFE IS, REPORT ME FOR MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HIJACKED

Leng posted:

- not only is it truly possible for zaurg to burn through the liquidated equity from the house sale proceeds in less than 3 years, it is actually highly likely

I can't decide what is more sad this time.. dipshit coming back to the forums on christmas eve and only last 3 weeks, or dipshit having some epiphany that he already burned through a shitload of his house sale and giving up in 35 minutes on pocketsmith because he couldn't fudge the numbers there. There are always new lows for this clown. The ex wife's credit report thing was particularly pathetic but not otherwise noteworthy in the sea of shittyness that is dipshit. I really suspect he is drinking heavily, hes let a few things slip about it now like a 1/3rd of his grocery shopping is alcohol. What a sad boy

At least he doesn't have to mow the lawn! Gosh that was a headache. Things are going really well Zaurg keep it up we all believe in you! :laugh:

Admiralty Flag
Jun 7, 2007

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

Harry Potter on Ice posted:

I really suspect he is drinking heavily, hes let a few things slip about it now like a 1/3rd of his grocery shopping is alcohol. What a sad boy
This is a completely unfair metric. We know he spends a ton of his food budget on lovely fast food/chain food, so just because 1/3rd of his Publix bill goes to booze doesn't mean he's putting that percentage toward booze. It might be higher.

After all, markups are higher in restaurants, so two beers at Chipotle = a sixer of that same beer at the supermarket.

In all seriousness, Zaurg, (and you can tell I'm serious because I'm spelling and capitalizing your name correctly), if your alcohol consumption has been generally and gradually on the rise please consider what effects it will have upon you, your romantic relationships, and most importantly with your kids.

doingitwrong
Jul 27, 2013

Zaurg posted:

There is a bit of laughter at me right now because of dumb moves I've made but I have made progress and continue to make progress. Sometime in the not-so-distance future, the majority (certainly not all) of goons in this thread will change their tune and call this a success. 10 years from now goons will be like "remember when zaurg hosed around like an idiot for almost 10 years, but then finally fixed his poo poo? What a story. Better late than never!"

Harry Potter on Ice
Nov 4, 2006


IF IM NOT BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHITTY MY LIFE IS, REPORT ME FOR MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HIJACKED

Admiralty Flag posted:

This is a completely unfair metric. We know he spends a ton of his food budget on lovely fast food/chain food, so just because 1/3rd of his Publix bill goes to booze doesn't mean he's putting that percentage toward booze. It might be higher.

After all, markups are higher in restaurants, so two beers at Chipotle = a sixer of that same beer at the supermarket.

In all seriousness, Zaurg, (and you can tell I'm serious because I'm spelling and capitalizing your name correctly), if your alcohol consumption has been generally and gradually on the rise please consider what effects it will have upon you, your romantic relationships, and most importantly with your kids.

Yea I mean I'm joking because you know.. gently caress that clown and lol at anyone trying to help him now but I've been sober for years now and a lot of his behavior resembles old behavior of mine. I would think anyone with addiction issues feels something similar

DarkHorse
Dec 13, 2006

Vroom vroom, BEEP BEEP!
Nap Ghost

Username/post combo

Harry Potter on Ice posted:

Yea I mean I'm joking because you know.. gently caress that clown and lol at anyone trying to help him now but I've been sober for years now and a lot of his behavior resembles old behavior of mine. I would think anyone with addiction issues feels something similar

He's definitely a gambling addict, though hopefully it was limited to bitcoins. Florida banned greyhound racing too so he's got that going for him

Also lol that he cowarded his way out of doing a February budget

My Rhythmic Crotch
Jan 13, 2011

good riddance, don't come back moron

zaurg posted:

6/1/2028: At age 50 have $500k in savings and condo mortgage paid off. Same goal from previous thread. It's doable.

won't happen

Loan Dusty Road
Feb 27, 2007
It's the best when Zitshit comes in and admits he's a failure and a dumbshit.

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nashona
May 8, 2014

Though she be but little, she is fierce


Daztek posted:

Naw, his av still links to his rap sheet, so he's still banned, autobans don't give you the banned av

Ah thanks! I didn't realize that.

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