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BearDrivingTruck
Oct 15, 2011

You see the most shocking sights sometimes

Commander Keene posted:

Yeah, it's kinda like the difference between Wind Waker and Twilight Princess; WW had a very emotive Link which was great, especially with the art style in that game, while TP's Link was very stone-faced. Here we have DQ8's Hero, who was expressive (maybe not to the level of WW Link though), while the Luminary is very stone-faced.

It's a shame, because Rab's voice actor really sells the scene.

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Social Animal
Nov 1, 2005

JustJeff88 posted:

Was there anything else that was removed from the original versions in the Switch version? I am rather surprised as I thought that this new version was all additions/refinements.

Removing the crossbow targets was definitely a refinement.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

DWM was my first too. For some reason, the tree stump monster sticks out the most in my memories. Maybe because I was playing that while shopping for a desk at Wal Mart in the year 2000.

I don't think I'd play another one until IX. I really wanted to play VIII when it came out, but I never owned a PS2. IX was brilliant and I was hooked. I got IV not too long after and then eventually got more or less the rest of them in one form or another. Minus X, anyway. (I don't like it when MMOs get mainline numbered entries. They should have called it Dragon Quest Online or something.)

Here's an amazing reaction gifable moment. Somewhat spoiler if you haven't made it into act 2.

https://twitter.com/Tomenheimer/status/1179969545928204289?s=19

Nep-Nep
May 15, 2004

Just one more thing!
Replaying XI is just making me want to play through the whole numbered series again.

What was X like? It's pretty clear it's never going to come out in English and I don't know enough Japanese to ever justify buying it, but was it one of those really grindy MMOs or was it fairly approachable for casual players. How was the story, if anyone in here has played it?

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
I played like an hour of it but I can't really remember the finer details. I had a weddie martial artist and she was cute though.

Dizz
Feb 14, 2010


L :dva: L
What level should I be during the martial arts tournament because I'm just getting crapped on

Reset Smith
Apr 6, 2009

Dizz posted:

What level should I be during the martial arts tournament because I'm just getting crapped on

Somewhere in the low twenties

The Ninth Layer
Jun 20, 2007

Miracle slash went a long way for me in those fights.

BearDrivingTruck
Oct 15, 2011

You see the most shocking sights sometimes
I did it comfortably at 19 at (maybe 20), but I also had gotten the 1-handed sword from the casino and had forged the best armor I could at that point.

Orange Crush Rush
May 7, 2009

You don't need thumbs for revenge

Dizz posted:

What level should I be during the martial arts tournament because I'm just getting crapped on

I think most agree that 20-21 is a good point. If you have Hard Monsters on you might want to go sword and shield, a few fights are gonna come down to waiting for one person to run out of MP and the extra defence helps

Azathoth256
Mar 30, 2010
Greatsword guard can help quite a bit if you're using one, though sword and shield still might be better in those fights.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

Yosuke will now die for you.

BearDrivingTruck posted:

The emotional impact of the first scene in Dundrasil is brought down by the Hero's inability to emote, methinks. At least put a comforting hand on the grieving man's shoulder.

It’s also brought down by the game turning me into a sociopath who had to immediately check the back side of the altar for treasure.

Dizz
Feb 14, 2010


L :dva: L
I managed to do it at level 18 and was 19-20 when fighting the spider. Cutting Edge with 2x Oomph and sapped enemies was good. Also acceleratle and decelerate helps a lot as well. I'm considering swapping Erik for Veronica

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




Holy poo poo is it my imagination or is the 2D mode encounter rate when you're finally on the way to Dora-in-Grey set waaaaaaay loving higher than everything that comes before it? I'm getting battles virtually every other step.

Falathrim
May 7, 2007

I could shoot someone if it would make you feel better.
I decided to try a run with all the Draconian Quest options turned on. I've barely made it to the Kingsbarrow and I'm pretty confident in saying that this is an impossible challenge.

Any advice, beyond giving up?

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




I wonder what crazy stuff they're gonna do for XII. Aside from hopefully making Definitive Edition features standard going forward.

Summons? Combo attacks? NPC assists? A female hero?

Supremezero
Apr 28, 2013

hay gurl

RareAcumen posted:

I wonder what crazy stuff they're gonna do for XII. A female hero?

The series is still made by extremely old men, so I rather doubt it.

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

they've done it in previous games, it's not that wild

Ethiser
Dec 31, 2011

You could be a Lady hero in 4.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Supremezero posted:

The series is still made by extremely old men, so I rather doubt it.

You could be a woman in 4, 9 and 10.

Also most of the spinoffs

AngryRobotsInc
Aug 2, 2011

Zore posted:

You could be a woman in 4, 9 and 10.

Also most of the spinoffs

The remakes of III, as well.

Orange Crush Rush
May 7, 2009

You don't need thumbs for revenge
XI was actually the first game in a while where you had to play as a Male Hero.
Also I was kind of bummed we didn't get the female IV Hero in Smash, I think she's got a better design then the male one. But then again I am kind of a sucker for that 80's anime "flouff" hair

Last Celebration
Mar 30, 2010
Female Hero in 4 is the only legit choice imo, that anime afro owns and the male MC looks like a douche and stock DBZ character (yeah I know that’s kinda a series thing for most of them but it’s even worse with him).

Orange Crush Rush
May 7, 2009

You don't need thumbs for revenge
Also I just beat Dora on Hard mode. Here's actual footage of Sylvando during that fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHZvUeAdzeI

AngryRobotsInc
Aug 2, 2011

And on the flip side, I prefer the Male Hero's design.

I usually play as Sofia anyway, though, because of course a lot of the best armor is female only.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

AngryRobotsInc posted:

The remakes of III, as well.

You could be female in the NES version as well.

Though canonically I guess Loto, Four (Solo), and Nine are all guys since SE always uses the male versions of those games' heroes.



Last Celebration posted:

Female Hero in 4 is the only legit choice imo, that anime afro owns and the male MC looks like a douche and stock DBZ character (yeah I know that’s kinda a series thing for most of them but it’s even worse with him).

Sofia having fro-style hair like Bulma had around the time of DQ4's creation probably isn't a coincidence.

Airspace
Nov 5, 2010
The only problem with playing a girl in III NES is that most(?) of the dialogue still used male pronouns.

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

In what translation? If it's on the original NES that really won't surprise me. It obviously wouldn't be an issue in the original Japanese.

Airspace
Nov 5, 2010

Amppelix posted:

In what translation? If it's on the original NES that really won't surprise me. It obviously wouldn't be an issue in the original Japanese.

Yeah the original NES one, it would call a girl hero 'son' a fair amount.

AngryRobotsInc
Aug 2, 2011

Airspace posted:

Yeah the original NES one, it would call a girl hero 'son' a fair amount.

One version jokes about that at one point. The GBC one, maybe. I forgot the NES version had the choice too. I haven't played that one in a while.

BearDrivingTruck
Oct 15, 2011

You see the most shocking sights sometimes
I probably didn't need to spend the day amassing coins to get the spear at the casino, but I did.

Dizz
Feb 14, 2010


L :dva: L
How far into the game is the casino?

SettingSun
Aug 10, 2013

Dizz posted:

How far into the game is the casino?

Comparatively early. You can go there as soon as you get your boat (though the story doesn't go there for a while).

Dizz
Feb 14, 2010


L :dva: L

SettingSun posted:

Comparatively early. You can go there as soon as you get your boat (though the story doesn't go there for a while).

Thanks. I will go explore a bit then.

I also had a question about the metal slime family. Will they be easier to find? I managed to only find one in the Ogre fights, which kinda sucked because Ogre hurts like gently caress while you're trying to focus down a slime before it runs away.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Dizz posted:

How far into the game is the casino?

Not too long after you get ________5_______ party members.

edit: forgot to do this https://twitter.com/JonComms/status/1177924593509531650

RareAcumen fucked around with this message at 09:45 on Oct 5, 2019

Alard
Sep 4, 2011

Dizz posted:


I also had a question about the metal slime family. Will they be easier to find? I managed to only find one in the Ogre fights, which kinda sucked because Ogre hurts like gently caress while you're trying to focus down a slime before it runs away.

I've made it decently far in the game and I haven't seen any Metal Slimes(not counting Metal Slime knights and the like) on any map yet. They've always just been along for the ride in other fights. That might change even later in the game/the end game, but I wouldn't know for sure.

Last Celebration
Mar 30, 2010
Nah, they figured out how horribly exploitable onscreen encounters are combined with metal slimes after Dragon Quest VII and made it so they only ever accompany other monsters.

There IS an exploit to farm them in the postgame you can google tho.

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here
There is actually one place in the game where you'll see metal slimes on the map. It's during the dragon chase in the first chapter

We Got Us A Bread
Jul 23, 2007

Falathrim posted:

I decided to try a run with all the Draconian Quest options turned on. I've barely made it to the Kingsbarrow and I'm pretty confident in saying that this is an impossible challenge.

Any advice, beyond giving up?

I'd try watching this guy's videos to get some tips, he did an all-draconian run: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsCPh_S8_xszEVRegO_RJhQ/videos

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Son of a Vondruke!
Aug 3, 2012

More than Star Citizen will ever be.

BearDrivingTruck posted:

I probably didn't need to spend the day amassing coins to get the spear at the casino, but I did.

I got lucky and hit the slots jackpot right away. :agesilaus:

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