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Momomo posted:I hate P4's dungeons because while they're technically "better", they're still pretty lovely and you can't even just skip the rooms easily like with Tartarus. Shadows were also a million times harder to dodge and it was tedious as all hell sometimes. Oh yeah, I liked the way Tartarus was laid out better than how dungeons were in P4 but holy moly Tartarus as a whole was just boring and lazy and stretched on way too long. Maybe Persona 5 will merge the two and we will have a perfect balance. Or maybe it will find some new way to annoy the hell out of people. 
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I always liked Tartarus. I mean sure it got a bit repetitive with only occasional bosses to identify any given floor, but so did the TV dungeons except for like, the Dragon Quest one. I liked having all the main dungeons in the same place, and seeing the floor numbers slowly but steadily climb into the hundreds gave a concrete sense of progress across the whole game. Plus each block looked as visually distinct as the TV dungeons did. I also liked having your final boss rush against Strega at the top and then facing Nyx half a mile in the sky instead of facing Ameno-Sagiri in some random shadow Inaba you'd not seen or heard of the week before. Made it all seem so much more dramatic.
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Mar 22, 2014 04:34
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I dunno, I found dodging shadows extremely easy to do in P4. It'd be nice if low level ones ran from you still (though gently caress the wailing they did, that was so annoying) but it's really not hard to just walk around anything you don't want to fight. Well, just so long as there isn't a golden hand near one that you want dead. My least favorite thing about the P4 dungeon compared to Tartarus is that you don't get money in chests anymore. It was so much easier to get money in P3 when you could get over 500k a pop. Though while we're talking about bad things in Persona, give the characters not in the active party experience for gently caress sake. 
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Mar 22, 2014 04:39
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I liked P4's dungeons because I'd abuse the after battle tarot cards to restore my MP and cleared all of the dungeons except for Yukiko's in 1 day
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Arbitrary Coin posted:I liked P4's dungeons because I'd abuse the after battle tarot cards to restore my MP and cleared all of the dungeons except for Yukiko's in 1 day That's not an option in the console version. Only way to restore MP outside of items is that drat rip off fox.
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Mar 22, 2014 04:59
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AngryRobotsInc posted:That's not an option in the console version. Only way to restore MP outside of items is that drat rip off fox. Nope, the upright Judgment card from Arcana Chance will restore the party's SP to max. It is admittedly pretty rare.
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Mar 22, 2014 05:01
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AngryRobotsInc posted:That's not an option in the console version. Only way to restore MP outside of items is that drat rip off fox. Getting Judgment on the Arcana Chance can fill all SP if you win. E:f,b
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I've always loved the way the SP items were written/named. "OK Yukiko you've sacrificed large amounts of your immortal soul to call forth lashings of flame to save us from these monsters. So, slam a couple of colas, chew some gum, you'll be 100% in no time."
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Strange Quark posted:Nope, the upright Judgment card from Arcana Chance will restore the party's SP to max. Oh right. Dur. I pretty much never get that, because Atlus' RNG hates me, so I forgot about that.
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And that's why I fused the highest rank of Invigorate I had access to onto basically everything. Up until the endgame when Rise has the skills that have your party regain hp/sp after every fight.
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Invigorate/Regenerate never seem worth it to me. Victory Cry or bust. Shame the card is on Izanagi-no-Okami and costs 500k.
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Manatee Cannon posted:Invigorate/Regenerate never seem worth it to me. Victory Cry or bust. Shame the card is on Izanagi-no-Okami and costs 500k. Lucifer learns it naturally in the PS2 version but it takes some time.
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Manatee Cannon posted:I dunno, I found dodging shadows extremely easy to do in P4. It'd be nice if low level ones ran from you still (though gently caress the wailing they did, that was so annoying) but it's really not hard to just walk around anything you don't want to fight. Well, just so long as there isn't a golden hand near one that you want dead. My least favorite thing about the P4 dungeon compared to Tartarus is that you don't get money in chests anymore. It was so much easier to get money in P3 when you could get over 500k a pop. I prefer the Dungeons in P1 and P2 because they're actual locations in the city they take place in.
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I know in the original Persona 4 it was possible to get Victory Cry as early as the early 30's by skill mutating Tetrakarn. Was that still possible in Golden?
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A Bystander posted:Lucifer learns it naturally in the PS2 version but it takes some time. I think Lucifer just starts with it in Golden. That or you get it anyway since he's the ultimate persona of Judgement. I'm talking about the card though, not the skill itself. WrightOfWay posted:I know in the original Persona 4 it was possible to get Victory Cry as early as the early 30's by skill mutating Tetrakarn. Was that still possible in Golden? Yeah you can still mutate a skill into Victory Cry. Would kinda break the game though.
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AngryRobotsInc posted:Oh right. Dur. I pretty much never get that, because Atlus' RNG hates me, so I forgot about that. Yeah, it was Judgement Card ( I think there might be another too) abuse I was talking about. I got it by chance right as I was running out in Kanji's dungeon and then on purposely sought it for every dungeon thereafter. And yeah, I fused Spirit Drain onto everything I had. Another thing I like more in P2 was that MP regenerated as you walked and you could buy MP healing items. ^^^I spent a few hours trying to do that. Uggghhhhh.
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Gogmagog should be able to pick up Focus in Nocturne from one of its ingredients easily, right? He does have 22 strength, but the game can be a little weird about that kind of thing sometimes.
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Manatee Cannon posted:You're right, but that's the problem with making it a fighting game with a tournament structure. If you want to follow one true narrative and show everyone's parts from their perspective, what do you do with the people that get knocked out in round one? They lose their reason to fight and couldn't move on anyway. Even if you remove the "invisible walls block progress" thing, that just breaks the rest of the narrative. The fighting game aspect does not serve the story and the story does not serve the game. This is my biggest issue with Arena really, it's a poor sequel. If it were just a silly side thing it'd be fine, it's generally funny when it tries to be and the characters are still fun (except Yu). But it's not a side thing, it's the canon sequel. They should have just made the visual novel or whatever since that's like 90% of the game anyway and left the fighting game to the side like PQ. I'm betting that rhythm game and P4A2 will have the same issues. Like the other guy said, the biggest problem with the narrative is that they force themselves to do a story campaign for everyone and they tend to retread A TON of material. The invisible wall thing though is a really lazy way to implement the whole tournament structure though. They coulda just made the whole thing like Tartarus where the place changes all the time and in this case depending on the winners and losers. Also, I'm sure that those that lost in the first round are just stuck to wait for their next challenger in the losers bracket. Should they have made it canon? Probably not. But it honestly doesn't really bother me at all since the whole thing feels like an extra story tacked on instead that you could honestly take it or leave it. I'm pretty sure no one is going to die and there's a big chance that none of this will tie into P5. Either way you take it, I appreciate them doing something cool with the franchise like a fighter. It's far more welcome than a loving pandering-rear end rhythm game that every Japanese company wants to do now and make sure the Vita gets buried in them. Why can't the Vita take a break? 
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If you don't want to play as a smooth-rear end dancing Yu Narukami I don't know what to tell you.
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Mar 25, 2014 18:54
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You can start by telling me that I'm a well-adjusted adult and an attractive man.
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Proto Cloud posted:You can start by telling me that I'm a well-adjusted adult and an attractive man. What kind of well-adjusted attractive male doesn't want to learn slick disco moves from imaginary Japanese teens?
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I like rhythm games, so this recent trend is good for me.
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Proto Cloud posted:You can start by telling me that I'm a well-adjusted adult and an attractive man. He says, playing games that prominently feature dick-shaped demons.
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I'm not sure I'll pick up Dancing All Night, personally. I was not really a big fan of Rise or rhythm games, so I don't really see the appeal. I hope you guys enjoy it though  ! I am excited about PQ, Arena 2, and of course P5.
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Dancing All Night looks like the team knows its silly as poo poo and are just going to run with it. There's nothing wrong with tongue-in-cheek silliness every once and a while.
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projecthalaxy posted:I'm not sure I'll pick up Dancing All Night, personally. I was not really a big fan of Rise or rhythm games, so I don't really see the appeal. Kanji dancing.
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alcharagia posted:Kanji dancing. If I weren't already a fan of rhythm games, the fact that Kanji is playable in it would have convinced me.
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Strange Quark posted:He says, playing games that prominently feature dick-shaped demons. Mara is an inspiration for any alpha male.
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As Rise is my favorite character (after Yosuke), I of course will be pre-ordering Dancing All Night.
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Persona Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHQVJCFIKTs Kanji https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbT9W7dDEfA Koromaru Atlus discovered people don't like Pewdiepie last night. The post about him playing Daylight and the apology were both taken down, but comments were tearing into Pewdiepie and recommending they work with Two Friends Play or Game Grumps. Slowbeef got a screenshot though. https://twitter.com/slowbeef/status/449374788302422016
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Mar 28, 2014 15:25
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Who the gently caress is Pewdiepie?
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Nate RFB posted:Who the gently caress is Pewdiepie? A Swedish guy who loves screaming over things.
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That guy pretty much owns the "10 year old boy with a tablet" demographic on YouTube. Kids eat that poo poo up.
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Nate RFB posted:Who the gently caress is Pewdiepie? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PewDiePie The most subscribed to channel on youtube.
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This is the first time I actually see a PQ battle in motion... eh. It looks less fluid than the Persona games but not as straightforward as EO. I dunno, maybe it looks better in practice. Also I think it looks worse than SMT4 but then I remembered they still use sprites for that.
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Dehry posted:Atlus discovered people don't like Pewdiepie last night. The post about him playing Daylight and the apology were both taken down, but comments were tearing into Pewdiepie and recommending they work with Two Friends Play or Game Grumps. Slowbeef got a screenshot though. Atlus USA made up a whole new acronym for people like Pewdiepie. 
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Strange Quark posted:Atlus USA made up a whole new acronym for people like Pewdiepie. PYTP gonna be the penultimate boss to YHVH in the next SMT
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hubris.height posted:PYTP gonna be the penultimate boss to YHVH in the next SMT FYI, I need this game ASAP. BRB, gotta smoke some PCP.
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Dehry posted:Persona Q  Also, Koro beats you out by a mile, Teddie. He doesn't have stupidly annoying squeaking noises when he walks around. Therefore, Koromaru is the better cute and furry companion. 
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https://www.facebook.com/AtlusUSA/posts/10152029508623339 Raidou vs The Souless Army is a PSN Classic April 1st.
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