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As poo poo as the Cybertruck is, I can't help but see it as an inflection point: either we're getting armored vehicles for consumers now, or vehicles scale down to reasonable sizes again. For about twenty decades, car manufacturers (and truck manufacturers) have made their products aesthetically more aggressive, bigger, and more powerful. And they've sold that by making that an expression of manliness and strength. And that is really what I see people looking for in the Cybertruck. They're not interested in its iPad or its electric motor. They like that they can feel like they're in Night City. They want to make a grocery trip feel like a dystopian action movie. That's the only time they and their 300000 software engineer salary need to interact with normal people out of their insulated bubble, so perfect opportunity to make it sound like a daring adventure. All those dinguses showcasing how you can throw stuff against the steel panels? Sell those guys an armored Ford truck. With a martial sounding name, like Patriot Badger or something. Mercedes and BMW can get in on the grift too. Panels have been thickened with armor. Windows are bulletproof glass. Headlight get metal Xs in front of them for protection. Touchscreen gets a rubberized frame for protection. Cup holders are made out of metal (tactical). Maybe the cars come with pre-installed holsters for guns and rifles. Either the Cybertruck is just the harbinger of these chud vehicles, or it has made the idea of them so embarrassing that people buy normal cars again.
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The Lone Badger posted:Didn't they already pivot back away from robotaxis? They’re in the process of pivoting away from employing people
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May 19, 2024 10:20
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Lord Stimperor posted:As poo poo as the Cybertruck is, I can't help but see it as an inflection point: either we're getting armored vehicles for consumers now, or vehicles scale down to reasonable sizes again. You’ve been able to buy a bulletproof Mercedes or BMW for ages. I don’t know what share of their income it is but selling armored luxury sedans to rich people and government officials in dangerous countries is solid business for them. They’re just not in-your-face big truck designs because that’s not what those customers are asking for.
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May 19, 2024 10:25
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Lord Stimperor posted:As poo poo as the Cybertruck is, I can't help but see it as an inflection point: either we're getting armored vehicles for consumers now, or vehicles scale down to reasonable sizes again. The Cybertruck isn't a harbinger, it is an armoured vehicle. Haven't you noticed those ablative steel plates covering it?
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May 19, 2024 10:38
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I just want to say: LOL at the redirect from twitter to x, it's literally using a token to redirect *all* traffic, because it automatically sends x.com to twitter.com, but then the twitter domain has to take the token and send it to the special sanitized x.com(no redirects) location? Even the default https://twitter.com and https://x.com do this poo poo, it's so loving ham-fisted EDIT: Also, this is completely stupid and now that I can't even pull up individual tweets without invoking some UID token and having page redirects like it's 2006, I'm in the "just take a screenshot of the tweet" club 
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May 19, 2024 10:40
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Mistle posted:I just want to say: It's almost as if he understands how technology works
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May 19, 2024 10:44
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Lord Stimperor posted:As poo poo as the Cybertruck is, I can't help but see it as an inflection point: either we're getting armored vehicles for consumers now, or vehicles scale down to reasonable sizes again. Happened 30 years post Iraq War with the Hummer.
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carrionman posted:What the hell is WEF in this context? Waterboarding Elon fans
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Decrepus posted:Waterboarding Elon fans mfw
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carrionman posted:What the hell is WEF in this context?
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Woke Effort Fund
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carrionman posted:What the hell is WEF in this context? Technically the World Economic Forum, but in practice when they say that they mean.... frumpykvetchbot posted:the cabal of the protocol of the elders of ((((them))))
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Lord Stimperor posted:As poo poo as the Cybertruck is, I can't help but see it as an inflection point: either we're getting armored vehicles for consumers now, or vehicles scale down to reasonable sizes again. Frank Stephenson (designer of the first BMW Mini and the retro Fiat 500, among various Ferraris and McLarens) said as much in his video about the Cybertruck, saying that it was the product of a fundamentally insecure and pessimistic worldview, which is interesting given Musk's continual empty-sounding "pro-human" effective altruism schtick. happyhippy posted:Happened 30 years post Iraq War with the Hummer. In retrospect the Humvee is almost a shrinking violet in comparison to some of the brodozers on the market now. Yes it's hugely wide and tall and heavy, but its dimensions derive from a stated purpose (having the ground clearance and track distance to follow tracked vehicles across terrain and being wide enough to be stable while heavily laden on uneven ground) and it's an essentially functional and utilitarian machine - an expanded replacement for the classic Jeep. It's not armoured (at least, not in its original form).
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Yeah, feels like we hit a "peak masculinity" with cars when Arnold was driving his Hummer around.
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BalloonFish posted:In retrospect the Humvee is almost a shrinking violet in comparison to some of the brodozers on the market now  
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*Borat voice* "My WEF"
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Steadiman posted:*Borat voice* "My WEF"
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Just some perspective, it took about as much time to go from Confinity being founded for it to become PayPal to be acquired by eBay as it's been since Elon Musk bought Twitter to turn it into X THE EVERYTHING APP which still doesn't do anything except be a vandalized Nazi-friendly version of Twitter.
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May 19, 2024 12:55
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the cybertruk, a novelty car, is absolutely an industry wide inflection point of design. ever think about how they made a twisted metal tv show only after the cybertruk was announced? yeah. You didn’t. it’s no coincidence.
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OneEightHundred posted:Just some perspective, it took about as much time to go from Confinity being founded for it to become PayPal to be acquired by eBay as it's been since Elon Musk bought Twitter to turn it into X THE EVERYTHING APP which still doesn't do anything except be a vandalized Nazi-friendly version of Twitter. It is wild how quickly things changed in the 90's versus now.
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GLORY TO THE ETERNAL LEADER
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"I wish I could vote in Elonctions but I don't own stonk  "
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How those income streams going there, Lonny?
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BalloonFish posted:Frank Stephenson (designer of the first BMW Mini and the retro Fiat 500, among various Ferraris and McLarens) said as much in his video about the Cybertruck, saying that it was the product of a fundamentally insecure and pessimistic worldview, which is interesting given Musk's continual empty-sounding "pro-human" effective altruism schtick. That's exactly what I think is happening. With the Cybertruck being so explicit on its amored vehicle marketing, it is a watershed moment. One possible future is that this kicks of a spiral of escalation, where consumer vehicles start aping combat vehicles aesthetically, and later functionally. Once the latter happens, there is only so far you can go -- it has to stop when manufacturers start pre-installing gun mounts on truck beds (for personal defense and 2A-reasons). Or we're entering Night City. I hope for the alternative where consumers and manufacturers alike realize how silly this all is and shun whatever it is the Cybertruck conveys. And hopefully we return to elegant, human-centered forms. happyhippy posted:Happened 30 years post Iraq War with the Hummer. Yes, that's how this nonsense all started! That was a commercialized version of an actual military vehicle. I remember when Arnold Schwarzenegger was driving one and everyone thought it was crazy. A couple of people imported Hummers from America as show cars to great public effect. Unfortunately, this gave the market a sort of kink. From that we got an influx of SUVs. And people who earlier imported land yachts from the US now import giant trucks that still don't fit on any parking space and many streets, but now also have bumpers optimally placed for skull crushing. What I think the Cybertruck is doing is it's trying to give suburbanties an excuse to channel their insecurities into metal. The Cybertruck's marketing is pretty specific in its apocalyptic appeal: goes through floods. Goes through smoke. You can drive through bad inner city neighbourhoods. Impenetrable. But it's still a Tesla, the dorky electric vehicle company. Just imagine what happens if Dodge uparmors their charger or takes a RAM with armored plates, bars across the rear window, a cow bar, gigantic roof-mounted lights. No greenwashed electrical engine, but 6 liters of combustion power under the hood. Protected fuel tank and extra heavy duty looks on the trunk/truck bed. If there is anything EV in there, it's a hybrid. And if you drive on the electric motor it's not because it reduces pollution at low speeds in the city or because it improves fuel burn, it's beccause it's 'tactical mode' or 'stealth power cruise' or whatever. Extremely ruggedized trucks, SUVs, and cars, marketed specifically to appeal to people who think that metropolitan areas, or anywhere close to a bus stop, are dangerous places that you need armor to conquer. I think the Cybertruck shows us the end state of the journey the Hummer started. Pirate Radar posted:You’ve been able to buy a bulletproof Mercedes or BMW for ages. I don’t know what share of their income it is but selling armored luxury sedans to rich people and government officials in dangerous countries is solid business for them. They’re just not in-your-face big truck designs because that’s not what those customers are asking for. Yeah but those bulletproof vehicles are actually purpose-built and decidedly not mass-market. And they're specifically made to look like normal limousines! What I'm wondering if we will see a wave of cars and trucks that do not just play with martial curves and some greebles here and there, but that actually slap plates on their flanks (effective or not), marketed to software engineers and acountants. gay picnic defence posted:The Cybertruck isn't a harbinger, it is an armoured vehicle. Haven't you noticed those ablative steel plates covering it? It's a new type of explosive reactive armor. If you drive over a parking lot IED, the plates will just fall off, allowing you to fulfill your mission and return to base (the Starbucks drive through). Lord Stimperor fucked around with this message at 14:28 on May 19, 2024 |
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WhyteRyce posted:You can watch the video here I'm reminded of that clip a few weeks ago of how the FSD AI rendered a train as a convoy of trucks. I recall that also showing a bunch of fake gaps in the convoy too. I'm surprised it's taken this long for a FSD failing to deal with train crossings story to pop up. Also, as others have said, how quickly this is driving in such heavy fog is terrifying. It makes sense it would gently caress up this way in retrospect - the models are all based on detecting shapes so it probably can't distinguish between a clear horizon and fog reducing vision distance.
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Lord Stimperor posted:The Cybertruck's marketing is pretty specific in its apocalyptic appeal: goes through floods. Goes through smoke. You can drive through bad inner city neighbourhoods. Impenetrable. It literally can't do any of that without breaking down
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Why is FSD even allowed in USA? It's clearly not fit for purpose but here we are. Bribes? No one gives a gently caress? Some form of 'freedom and 'right' to do whatever you want?
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Oversight ended decades ago, companies just started to really notice recently
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yeah, the tactical operator fantasy will replace the cowboy fantasy in truck advertising
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Sentient Data posted:Oversight ended decades ago, companies just started to really notice recently
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Buce posted:yeah, the tactical operator fantasy will replace the cowboy fantasy in truck advertising All the guys who “almost” joined the army during OIF will be buying that tactical Dodge until they die
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Neeksy posted:Didn't Tesla suddenly buy up a fuckton of LiDAR because of their desperate pivot to robotaxis, because their reliance on camera-only software for self-driving is clearly another fantasy. They claim the lidar purchases were for chase cars that were verifying the "thoughts and prayers" detection system Teslas rely on
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The X-man cometh posted:It literally can't do any of that without breaking down Well sure, you and I know that, but rubes with more money than sense will happily gobble it up and act surprised later
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The FSD stuff seems like it could be useful in long haul freeway type situations but lmao am I trusting a fuckin computer to drive me through the fog Also trains are cool and engineered to be nearly impossible to wreck.
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