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Syncopated posted:I'm honestly surprised there's no old school joke guard regiment or something modeled on Australia. It's a death world, their rough riders ride kangaroos, they once revolted against the government in the sacra rebellion, the possibilities are endless. Pretty sure the full page list of various IG armies in the 3rd Ed codex has at least one or two Australian expys.   I think the closest is the Bushmen of Serica. Which is extra funny because their planet is close to Warp Storm Fenris.
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SRM posted:It was a one off convention game, I think it was Was ist ein Space Ork Ober Brau, but that was like 20 years ago at this point. I really enjoyed how you announced this on the episode before your review. It was fun to read it before the 15 Hours episode came out. Would be cool if you kept that up.
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Moose-Alini posted:I really enjoyed how you announced this on the episode before your review. It was fun to read it before the 15 Hours episode came out. Would be cool if you kept that up. Well you're in luck, we've just announced our second 40k Book Club! https://40kbadcast.com/2017/04/14/40k-badcast-07-a-discussion-regarding-parasitic-dipterans/ This time it's going to be Aaron Dembski-Bowden's first Black Library novel, Cadian Blood. We're giving this one a little longer because we got some feedback that we didn't allow enough time for the last book, so we're aiming at releasing the episode for this one the week of May 23rd.
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Cooked Auto posted:Pretty sure the full page list of various IG armies in the 3rd Ed codex has at least one or two Australian expys. goddamnit GW, where's the Morbidian army?
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Cooked Auto posted:Pretty sure the full page list of various IG armies in the 3rd Ed codex has at least one or two Australian expys. Aww yeah, that's the stuff.
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That not Aztec regiment.  Oh yeah, that's some old school GW alright.
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Klaus88 posted:That not Aztec regiment. That is an infiltrator designed to look like a kroot 
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Is the Woad Warrior of Xymox Clan just nude and filthy?
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So are any of the HH books that came out before Nemesis worse books? I've read everything so far without skipping anything, but the first couple chapters of Nemesis are rough. I felt the same about Fulgrim in the beginning but I came around by the end, so if Fulgrim is "worse" than Nemesis I'll try sticking it out, but if not I wouldn't be against skipping ahead to The First Heretic.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Is the Woad Warrior of Xymox Clan just nude and filthy? Probably, also "Belief will conquer bullets" some milleniarian cults reference, a la Boxer Rebellion.
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bango skank posted:So are any of the HH books that came out before Nemesis worse books? I've read everything so far without skipping anything, but the first couple chapters of Nemesis are rough. I felt the same about Fulgrim in the beginning but I came around by the end, so if Fulgrim is "worse" than Nemesis I'll try sticking it out, but if not I wouldn't be against skipping ahead to The First Heretic. I think it's commonly accepted that only Battle for the Abyss is worse than Nemesis. Not sure how you can use Fulgrim as an example of bad when you've apparently read that. Descent of Angels was also considered to be awful in this thread, though I didn't mind it that much personally.
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The DA books in HH are just kinda dull imo, something about the prose and pacing makes them drag a lot more than most of the other books in the series.
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How many(if any) of the later Gotrek & Felix books are any good? Or should I just stop at #7?
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Fellblade posted:I think it's commonly accepted that only Battle for the Abyss is worse than Nemesis. Not sure how you can use Fulgrim as an example of bad when you've apparently read that. I think Descent of Angels is an awful Heresy book, but wasn't so bad on a second read through when I knew it wasn't going to be like the others. It's been covered earlier why it was low teir, but it was made worse by the fact that we wanted pre-heresy Lion of Caliban and got a weird semi-medieval mash up following a bunch of horse riding boys and the goddam Lion as a spergy fuckwit. It also wraps up so suddenly that it makes a Dan Abnett ending look like Return of the King. Battle for the Abyss is just D level bolter porn with a few tweaks to make it a HH novel and contributes nothing to the overall arch. From what I remember Nemesis is compeltely skippable and offers nothing to the story. I think it even screws with the timeline as the people on Terra already know about Horus' rebellion and THEN Magnus blunders in to warn the Emperor * EDIT - I'm remembering wrong. It was Outcast Dead that had the timeline screw-up spoilered above Dog_Meat fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Apr 16, 2017 |
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Dog_Meat posted:From what I remember Nemesis is compeltely skippable and offers nothing to the story. I think it even screws with the timeline as the people on Terra already know about Horus' rebellion and THEN Magnus blunders in to warn the Emperor This isn't entirely accurate, the arc of the Vindicare assassin is propped up for potential continuation in some short story or ancillary plot in some other novel, if I recall correctly. At the end of Nemesis, the dude suicide-launches himself at the Vengeful Spirit, and some other book picks up where Nemesis leaves off. Guy ends up dwelling in the bowels/lower levels of the Spirit while slowly going mad, and then Horus looks to be recruiting/using him when he's broken. I was kinda hoping on some follow-up to that.
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Nemesis is a stand alone they shoe horned into the HH and is of no loving value to the story arch. It's an ok story if you pretend it's not HH. The evesor scenes are p dope
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Duzzy Funlop posted:This isn't entirely accurate, the arc of the Vindicare assassin is propped up for potential continuation in some short story or ancillary plot in some other novel, if I recall correctly. At the end of Nemesis, the dude suicide-launches himself at the Vengeful Spirit, and some other book picks up where Nemesis leaves off. Guy ends up dwelling in the bowels/lower levels of the Spirit while slowly going mad, and then Horus looks to be recruiting/using him when he's broken. Post Nemesis spoilers he goes to Terra to kill Euphrati Keeler and gets merked by Garro.
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Waroduce posted:Nemesis is a stand alone they shoe horned into the HH and is of no loving value to the story arch. Yep, Eversor is the best.
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a lovely king posted:Post Nemesis spoilers he goes to Terra to kill Euphrati Keeler and gets merked by Garro. Aaaaccck gently caress why did I highlight that spoiler. Which book is that?
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Guy Goodbody posted:Is the Woad Warrior of Xymox Clan just nude and filthy? He's wearing woad.
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Fellblade posted:I think it's commonly accepted that only Battle for the Abyss is worse than Nemesis. Not sure how you can use Fulgrim as an example of bad when you've apparently read that. I'd actually probably put Fulgrim on my top 3 HH novels that I've read so far, it started slow with the remembrancers but by the end when it goes full blown Hellraiser with the Maraviglia it turns itself around. It had just been mentioned as on the last couple pages and the reactions to it didn't seem that great so I assumed it was A Bad Book. But I also kind of enjoyed Battle for the Abyss for what it was, so what do I know? 
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I hated Fulgrim because of how the perfect Emperor's Children tried to emulate the perfect perfection of the perfect Emperor's perfect ways. Perfect. Perfect perfect perfect. 
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Yeah, everyone gets the point, they claim to be perfect when they're not and nothing what they do is. But the second you come to terms with that and just chill, it's a perfectly okay story of a bunch of dudes going wonderfully insane. What was that term that 40kBadcast-dude had for Fabius Bile...Fabulous something something?
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Aaaaccck gently caress why did I highlight that spoiler. One of the Garro novellas. I forget which. E: it's bad you're not missing anything
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Duzzy Funlop posted:This isn't entirely accurate, the arc of the Vindicare assassin is propped up for potential continuation in some short story or ancillary plot in some other novel, if I recall correctly. At the end of Nemesis, the dude suicide-launches himself at the Vengeful Spirit, and some other book picks up where Nemesis leaves off. Guy ends up dwelling in the bowels/lower levels of the Spirit while slowly going mad, and then Horus looks to be recruiting/using him when he's broken. Ah, right. Didn't know that. Actually, that's the reason why I stopped reading HH. Too many plots linking to short stories and audio dramas I'm just never going to buy. I have no idea what happened to Loken, no idea what's going on with Malcador the SillyCunt and the whole thing is just a mess. I have 30 books on a shelf (including one oversized version I ordered by mistake) but I've stopped there. All GW had to do was put everything into their novels and I was buying them all like a spergy idiot, bot no - they managed to somehow screw that up.
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SteelMentor posted:The DA books in HH are just kinda dull imo, something about the prose and pacing makes them drag a lot more than most of the other books in the series. Agreed. They're just 'meh' in book form. I skipped the most recent one, and having read a synopsis I don not regret that descision.
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Is Garro actually doing anything? I feel like I've read/heard half a dozen Garro stories and they were all about him putting his team together.
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SteelMentor posted:The DA books in HH are just kinda dull imo, something about the prose and pacing makes them drag a lot more than most of the other books in the series. Was it Angels of Caliban where we saw ~THE DREADWING DEPLOYED~ ? I can kinda see how the pattern of their assault sounded really really cool in the author's head, but the delivery to me ended up being dumb as gently caress. A medieval-style slow and inefficient broad-front march on a fortification while repeatedly chanting "WE HAVE COME. WE ARE DEATH"...  The way the Dreadwing was deployed later on Macragge, giving zero fucks and creatively wrecking the insurgents left and right with no regard for collateral damage, now THAT was much cooler, but the dumb WE HAVE COME WE ARE DEATH thing was pretty cringeworthy I thought.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Is Garro actually doing anything? I feel like I've read/heard half a dozen Garro stories and they were all about him putting his team together. He's founding the Grey Knights and the Inquisition so it's quite a bit of work.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Yeah, everyone gets the point, they claim to be perfect when they're not and nothing what they do is. Fabulous Bill! I prefer Fabius Bike, which was his typo'd name in the summary sheet for 5th edition. I've never read Fulgrim, but a lot of the negativity I see for it doesn't come from the quality of the writing, but from Fulgrim and his boytoys being a bunch of fuckbois.
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Asehujiko posted:How many(if any) of the later Gotrek & Felix books are any good? Or should I just stop at #7? They're all about the same. If you enjoy what you've read, you can carry on. If you're bored with the sameness, you can stop and not miss anything.
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Can we change the thread title to "read Night Lords, then come back"?
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Guy Goodbody posted:Can we change the thread title to "read Night Lords, then come back"? I don't think new readers will appreciate the viewpoint and what makes it so good tbh
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Waroduce posted:I don't think new readers will appreciate the viewpoint and what makes it so good tbh Add to that the fact that it's written from the viewpoint of the worst of the worst, that might be a bit of a turnoff. "Yo, this dude that flays and murders children, and then wears their skin as a headpiece, he's a good guy, what the hell?" - "Uh, I promise you can empathize with him in book 3"
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It's warhams, there are no good guys, only increasing degrees of assholes.
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Preechr posted:It's warhams, there are no good guys, only increasing degrees of assholes. Merrick is a good guy.
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So Black Library are releasing books or at least e-book novellas or something like that which take place post Gathering Storm. I'm tentatively looking forward to reading those since they seem to be the latest and first stories to push the 40K narrative forward.
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Is it me or did Horus get the lovely end of the stick when it comes to Primarchs? Horus: Hey Fulgrim, I have a really important thing I need you to do Fulgrim: Does it involve sticking a squig up my arse? Horus: Hey Angro... Angron: Hulk SMASH!!! Horus: Thanks for that. Hey Perturabo, you are a levelheaded guy, can you do this for me? Perturabo: I don't want to fight, why can't I just paint pictures. Horus: FFS. OK then. Konrad, you are not the New52 Joker, take that face of your helmet and do this Curze: All is black, what is the point of everything. Everyone hates me. I want to cut myself. Horus: Sigh. Mortarion? Mortarion: Kill the witch, kill the witch. Horus: Magnus? Magnus: What the gently caress am I doing here? Horus: Jesus. What a bunch of nutjobs and emotional cripples. Why can't I have people who can string more than two ideas together Alpharius: Tell me about it. Two Legions to do all the heavy lifting. Hey, where is Lorgar? Horus: Getting high on incense, self-flagellating and cackling to himself.
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