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the talent deficit posted:Nah, she's probably a lot worse. If by nobody you mean every single rural dwelling rear end in a top hat then you are correct.
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Ron_Jeremy posted:This is totally tangental to your point, but god drat, this sort of poo poo pisses me off. Can anyone please name me another discipline where "ability to accurately predict the future" is held up as the standard by which the discipline is evaluated? I have three replies to this. My first and simplest would be to read that comment again. What he's saying is that since economists failed to predict the crash it's frustrating that they're still, years later, so totally disinterested in reading outside the discipline. He's taking them to ask for not acknowledging their own failings. My second reply would be that there is a very big difference between criticizing economists regarding the 2008 crash and complaining that economists cannot accurately predict the future. While economists can't reasonably be expected to know the exact shape of the future or the precise time when something will occur, we should at least be able to expect that their commentary on the economy will give us a helpful guide to major changes, such as the one that was occuring as the housing bubble inflated during the 2000s. Even worse, during the early to mid-2000s prominent economists were all crowing about how the discipline had finally reached a consensus on how macroeconomics worked. Remember when Robert Lucas declared that the “central problem of depression-prevention has been solved”? Among the handful of economists who did predict the crash, such as Steve Keen or Dean Baker, (see also) they've tended to emphasize that it wasn't hard to miss if you understood what to look for. Economists just weren't looking because they'd already convinced themselves that they understood how the macroeconomy worked. So really, it's not just that economists failed to predict the future, they also were actively claiming that all was well. The trouble is that far too many economists -- especially the ones who get the most visibility out the profession, in the wider realm of public discourse, -- are totally disinterested in what other disciplines are doing. Actually it's worse than that. They aren't even interested in what other economists are doing outside the neoclassical framework. Actually, sorry, I'll have to change that again, because after the crash quite a few prominent economists demonstrated a remarkable lack of knowledge about New Keynesianism, which is fully within the neoclassical framework. My third reply would be that economics deserves a higher level of scrutiny than other disciplines because economics is uniquely influential. Neoclassical economics provides both the lexicon and the framework through which virtually all public policy decisions are discussed and evaluated. Introductory economics courses are mandatory for many unrelated disciplines in public policy and political science. As a rule the media does not regularly consult architects or geologists or philosophers on public policy decisions. Perhaps they should, but they don't, or rather they don't do it in a way that is at all equivalent to the prominence given to economists. Ron_Jeremy posted:That's perfectly rational criticism, on which there can be reasonable debate. I just am commenting on the refrain of "Durr, how come you can't tell me what interest rates will be next year, econ sux" that underlay that article that was posted. That's not what the article is saying. Though, since you bring it up, plenty of economists actually did make repeated predictions about how interest rates were going to rise because of government deficit spending during the last downturn. These predictions were reported upon and taken seriously and were used by political actors for their own ends. It's just another example of how the greater prestige that economists enjoy should subject them to greater scrutiny.
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Ezra Levant gets to ride another whine/donation run out of the time he got kicked out of an Alberta government press breifing because http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-journalist-who-wrote-report-for-premier-s-office-takes-government-job-1.3556210 quote:Edmonton journalist who wrote report for premier's office takes government job Even though it completely went his way hes still going to cause a poo poo fit about it and try to wring out another 10 - 20 k from his "loyal listeners" . loving hell Notely quit distributing pitchforks for your opposition. https://twitter.com/ezralevant/timelines/657197734433300480 apatheticman fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Apr 28, 2016 |
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Apr 28, 2016 01:22
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Today I learned Jeff Douglas from As It Happens looks like Kevin Sorbo, which somehow makes me take both of them less seriously.
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Apr 28, 2016 04:30
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Entropic posted:Today I learned Jeff Douglas from As It Happens looks like Kevin Sorbo, which somehow makes me take both of them less seriously. He's actually this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMxGVfk09lU
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Apr 28, 2016 05:20
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OSI bean dip posted:He's actually this guy: I can't believe I forgot about that.
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Apr 28, 2016 05:54
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OSI bean dip posted:Because CI cannot be bothered to post a link: This has not gone unnoticed. David Eby stands out in rookie term I probably follow BC Politics dramatically more than your average person and David Eby is the only NDP MLA I ever hear anything about. It's definitely plausible that the BC NDP has a real short bench (because it's run by idiots) but it's pretty shocking that I barely ever even hear anything in the news about the leader Horgan.
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jm20 posted:You would be taking the position that these people will learn from their 'misjudgment' and not repeat the same action with another illness. So you are balancing perhaps the mental health well being of their children over their physical health. Given how their defense team has framed the case I suspect that they would act similarly in the future with sick children whose symptoms don't improve over time. I really don't see how they can rehabilitate their lifestyle choice given they own that company and promote its similar alt-med philosophy. It looks like its full steam ahead and to strawman something else as the reason their child died of neglect quote:https://www.facebook.com/david.stephan.568/posts/10156836594445722 ed: quote:https://www.facebook.com/david.stephan.568/posts/10156820593610722?pnref=story  Risky Bisquick fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Apr 28, 2016 |
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Apr 28, 2016 15:05
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Apr 28, 2016 15:28
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In the first facebook thread that got posted they were blaming EMTs not having respirators or something in the ambulance and that was the reason the kid died. I guess that's what happens when you channel your guilt into outrage.
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Apr 28, 2016 15:32
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We need to payday loan these morons until they can't afford cinnamon and are forced into free public health care.quote:i am also a mother doing the natural ways. if baby is sick i give him sister lillian tissue salts, if he has tonsilitis, i give chamomilla tissue salts, it all works, if baby immune system is down i do cinnamon, if he is low on energy i give alot of fruits. mine is 19 months old. you get 1000000 websites explaining how dangerous antibiotics are and how you kill your child and blah blah so i FULLY UNDERSTAND why mom and dad did natural, its safer and better. Shocked that it didnt work but i know their apporach, you want the best for kids so do it natural. even IF PEOPLE warn, you still feel you got it under control
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Apr 28, 2016 15:33
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Unsurprisingly the RESP program is found to simply be a slush fund for rich parents used to help their rich kids be doctors. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/resp-education-grants-higher-income-families-1.3555615
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Apr 28, 2016 15:35
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cowofwar posted:Unsurprisingly the RESP program is found to simply be a slush fund for rich parents used to help their rich kids be doctors. Glad we spent tax money to find out that a plan to help people save money helps people who have money.
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Apr 28, 2016 15:43
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ah yes the real blame lies with the EMTs, not the morons who saw their kid was so stiffened as to be unable to sit and then chose to bring him to a witch doctor instead of an actual doctor it was exactly the kind of mistake anyone would make -- i remember the last time i caught the flu and suffered the entirely routine symptoms where your muscles turn into unresponsive rocks
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cowofwar posted:Unsurprisingly the RESP program is found to simply be a slush fund for rich parents used to help their rich kids be doctors. I thought all non poors used the CCTB/UCCB and dumped it into an RESP for 20% + indexed gains. When you withdraw all the money as a lump sum so long as you spend the 20% of the governments matched portion on tuition/rez/school the rest is essentially 'free money'. Stop taking my government handouts away 
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Apr 28, 2016 15:45
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Yeah, I'm not shocked. Who would've guessed that people with more money are able to save more money, and more willing to save money, and more able to take advantage of the tax advantages resulting from saving money? I don't see it as a bad thing though, since it still motivates behaviour that society has an interest in encouraging.
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Apr 28, 2016 15:45
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Ikantski posted:Glad we spent tax money to find out that a plan to help people save money helps people who have money. cowofwar fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Apr 28, 2016 |
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Apr 28, 2016 15:45
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Heavy neutrino posted:ah yes the real blame lies with the EMTs, not the morons who saw their kid was so stiffened as to be unable to sit and then chose to bring him to a witch doctor instead of an actual doctor Yeah, their complete lack of remorse, or understanding of what they did wrong, is now the biggest reason why I hope they get the maximum sentence. It's clear they've learned gently caress all from this experience so far.
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Apr 28, 2016 15:47
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The Stephans blaming the EMTs is like slacking off for an entire semester, spending the last week before the exams basically living in the profs/TAs' offices, and then asserting that you failed because the incompetent teaching staff couldn't do their job. They wouldn't have had to pull off a miracle if your dumb rear end had shown a minimal level of diligence.
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Apr 28, 2016 15:50
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cowofwar posted:Honestly the TFSA, RESP, RRSP, boutique tax credits should all be abolished. It's just a way to funnel money to people who have money. All government actions need to have a demonstrable benefit to society, funneling money to rich people actively harms society by accelerating inequality and classism. It's not really funneling though because poor people aren't paying much in taxes anyways. We're just redistributing middle and rich people's money in such a way that incentivizes them to save for retirement and education, two things canadians are demonstrably bad at.
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Ikantski posted:It's not really funneling though because poor people aren't paying much in taxes anyways. We're just redistributing middle and rich people's money in such a way that incentivizes them to save for retirement and education, two things canadians are demonstrably bad at. Putting the onus on people to save themselves and then rewarding those who do so is guaranteed to disproportionately benefit those with security and wealth.
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Let's discuss another failing of current government, one which I've not yet seen discussed in this thread: http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/eu-doesn-t-expect-canada-to-meet-visa-deadline-1.2850741 Basically, the EU is angry at Canada because it believes all EU citizens should be able to travel visa-free to Canada, but Canada requires visas for citizens of Romania and Bulgaria. End result: the EU is threatening to require visas for Canadian citizens. Now, if we had a reasonable government, we'd say, "hey, the EU is pretty important and we should acknowledge their incredibly reasonable request for visa reciprocity," but apparently we're much more concerned with cutting off our nose to spite our face, just to protect Canadians from the scourge of.... eastern Europeans I guess? Can someone explain to me why Canada is being so stubborn over such a dumb issue?
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Ikantski posted:It's not really funneling though because poor people aren't paying much in taxes anyways. We're just redistributing middle and rich people's money in such a way that incentivizes them to save for retirement and education, two things canadians are demonstrably bad at. Maybe it's not a lot in comparison, but we make people below the poverty line pay income taxes. We offer free money to people who were going to pay for their kid's college tuition anyways. We give up a bunch of tax dollars to let people with money make as much as they want in an investment account.
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cowofwar posted:Honestly the TFSA, RESP, RRSP, boutique tax credits should all be abolished. It's just a way to funnel money to people who have money. All government actions need to have a demonstrable benefit to society, funneling money to rich people actively harms society by accelerating inequality and classism. RRSPs should exist because they encourage good behavior (saving) and they lock up money long term (a good thing for people bad with money), though there should be a TFSA like-option for RRSPs to better suit low-income and early-in-career savers (i.e., like the US ROTH 401(k)). They absolutely play an important role in the post-defined-benefit world that we live in. Everything else should go; RESPs and TFSAs favor the wealthy/people with enough disposable income to max them out + RRSPs, and boutique tax credits are just awful. PT6A posted:Can someone explain to me why Canada is being so stubborn over such a dumb issue? Prime Minister Selfie is valiantly trying to save us from your endless posts about Spain.
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Ikantski posted:We need to payday loan these morons until they can't afford cinnamon and are forced into free public health care. What have I learned today? I've learned that "Sister Lillian's Tissue Salts" is a thing. Much like "Lydia E. Pinkham's Vegetable Compound" was a thing, but we no longer have Prohibition so we don't need to hide our alcohol in snake oil. Some wanker with violent fantasies once posted: "But whoever shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." Dude obviously didn't have access to shotguns.
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blah_blah posted:RRSPs should exist because they encourage good behavior (saving) and they lock up money long term (a good thing for people bad with money), though there should be a TFSA like-option for RRSPs to better suit low-income and early-in-career savers (i.e., like the US ROTH 401(k)). They absolutely play an important role in the post-defined-benefit world that we live in.
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I didn't know Newfoundland (and labrador!) had such a low population for such a huge area. Vancouver island alone has way more than that.
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Brian Jean hates free markets. Wildrose: the new Communist Party.Brian Jean posted:For years, restaurants like Earls have benefited from the strength of the Alberta economy as people flock there to celebrate the good times with family and friends.
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Apr 28, 2016 19:21
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"For years, restaurants like Earls have benefited from the strength of the Alberta economy as people flock there to celebrate the good times with family and friends." Who talks like that? She sounds like she's just reading a script of an Earl's official marketing statement or something. Also it sounds like Earls is actually doing a good thing and if Albertan ranchers and slaughterhouses want to supply maybe they should stop running their operations like disgusting unsanitary torture camps? Baronjutter fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Apr 28, 2016 |
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Apr 28, 2016 19:23
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PT6A posted:Can someone explain to me why Canada is being so stubborn over such a dumb issue? Antiziganism?
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Sturmtiger IV posted:Thank you Dr. Axe for your raw beans and acai berries. you fixed my leaky guts. Most chiropractors go by Dr. [Firstname], so he's probably just "Dr.Josh" to patients. Because what chiropractors need is to be LESS professional.
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Like for 1 prayer, retweet for 10 prayers, scroll on if you hate labrador Justin Trudeau says if I get 500,000,000 prayers he will turn the economy up!
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Baronjutter posted:"For years, restaurants like Earls have benefited from the strength of the Alberta economy as people flock there to celebrate the good times with family and friends." There are Certified Humane operations in Alberta, it's just that they didn't have the capacity to supply all of Earls' needs, so why bother even sourcing part of the beef locally? Also, if Certified Humane is anything like Certified Organic, it's expensive bullshit that shuts out small producers. Just because something isn't certified(R) doesn't mean that it's not humane and/or organic. I'd boycott Earls but their food is overpriced and made of poo poo and garbage, so I don't eat there anyway.
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flakeloaf posted:Antiziganism? Sadly, this is probably 100% correct.
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Do people even like Earl's? It's a mediocre restaurant who cares
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Do it ironically posted:Do people even like Earl's? It's a mediocre restaurant who cares People like the tight and short clothing the women have to wear at that chain and it's affiliates
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Fried Watermelon posted:People like the tight and short clothing the women have to wear at that chain and it's affiliates Like I said once before, as far as I can tell, all these chains basically exist for men too pathetic and whipped to even go to an actual strip club.
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Apr 28, 2016 19:58
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cowofwar posted:RRSP's help promote saving behavior which is a good thing but they rob the government of revenue from high earners which harms poor Canadians indirectly. Also I'm sure RRSP utilization is again biased against low earners. Someone with a high income can easily find 18%, not true for a low income earner. The effective alternative is that you have people that don't save enough for retirement. This costs the government a lot as well (note also that people who withdraw from their RRSPs in retirement will also fail the means tests for things like OAS, 'saving' the government money). (one could also argue that lavish public sector pension plans also rob the government of revenue)
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lmao like you think anyone is going to go well honey we will NOT stand for this outrage, from now on we are getting our steaks at Applebys!
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