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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:The story in Diablo 3 is just a way to get the player through the levels, and it does that well enough. It's not anything to get bent out of shape over, and I can't understand why so many people have such a burning hatred of it even to this day. I mean, at worst it's forgettable and aside from maybe one thing there's nothing to get upset over. Until the expansion the "end-game" of Diablo 3 consisted entirely of moving through all the levels four times each while manually skipping cutscenes and listening to the same forced NPC follows do the same exposition over and over. It's a lovely story sure, but most people have a particular hatred of it simply due to how many times it forcibly intruded itself on actually getting through the levels and punching demons. Adventure mode alone is worth the cost of the expansion due to Blizzard's idea of how important the Diablo story is.
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Bieeardo posted:I've heard that the last chapter is kind of cathartic, at least. It was cathartic for whatever I threw at my monitor when the credits started.
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Jul 28, 2014 01:13
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Anger issues much? I thought the last chapter was fine except for all the button mashing.
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Jul 28, 2014 01:21
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Tony Phillips posted:Flatout 2 is great but... The only bad thing about UC is that it doesn't have the licensed soundtrack (I think it was patched out of Flatout 2 after a while too, iirc.) Other than that it's a pretty solid game.
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Jul 28, 2014 01:34
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Diablo 3's story is bad in that everything is predictable and some of the characters have great potential but then do precisely fuckall. Tyrael is mortal now? Great, now he can be a follower or something and kick rear end. Oh wait no, he's still just useless as ever standing around in the hub. Leah is less useless but much more grating in how she never shuts up about her mother or how she's a skeptic that demons exist and of Deckard Cain's history, in a world where demons are overunning the world and she's right with you killing them sometimes. Having said that, it's not so bad that it makes the game not worth playing but it did used to be really obtrusive; later patches that allowed you to skip any and all story sequences automatically and Reaper of Souls Adventure Mode fixed this.
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Jul 28, 2014 01:35
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Tezzeract posted:I thought I'd hate Diablo's story since I spoiled it for myself before playing, but it was still entertaining. Sagacious Zu was some crazy potsmoking sage that came out of nowhere. Isn't Sagacious Zu from Jade Empire?
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Jul 28, 2014 01:41
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MinionOfCthulhu posted:Isn't Sagacious Zu from Jade Empire? Haha yes, he's thinking of the racist caricature Covetous Shen.
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Jul 28, 2014 01:47
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Propaganda Hour posted:Haha yes, he's thinking of the racist caricature Covetous Shen. Given his voice actor, I'm blown away we don't have Covetous Shen crossing over into Mists of Pandaria.
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Jul 28, 2014 01:52
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I've been having an issue with the second mission in Ace Combat where the machine gunner points his gun down and continues to fire. Unplugging my controller didn't work. Any help would be much appreciated.
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Jul 28, 2014 02:08
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Propaganda Hour posted:Haha yes, he's thinking of the racist caricature Covetous Shen. The funny thing is that somehow the racist caricature ended up being the only tolerable character in the entire game.
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Jul 28, 2014 02:25
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Propaganda Hour posted:Haha yes, he's thinking of the racist caricature Covetous Shen. Shen is basically one giant Big Trouble in Little China reference and that movie definitely isn't racially sensitive.
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Jul 28, 2014 02:27
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 I was skimming through an Ys FAQ and now I'm pretty certain I don't want to play this game \/\/\/ I'm well aware. That doesn't make it any less awful. ovaries fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Jul 28, 2014 |
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Jul 28, 2014 03:09
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You know that's optional right?
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monster on a stick posted:It was cathartic for whatever I threw at my monitor when the credits started. You are a giant child. Every chapter was fun as hell.
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Jul 28, 2014 03:16
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Justin_Brett posted:You know that's optional right? "You know she's a 3000 year old dragon trapped in that body right?"
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Jul 28, 2014 03:19
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Scyantific posted:Ace Combat Assault Horizon worth it at 5 bucks? Screw the gameplay, is the music score up to par? I've always been ambivalent to the Ace Combat games themselves but their soundtrack is the stuff of legend.
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Jul 28, 2014 03:21
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Anime, anime never changes.
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Jul 28, 2014 03:22
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Are there any good First/Third Person Shooters that have really unique and interesting enemy designs? I started playing XCOM - The Bureau and while it seems okay so far, it makes me sad that we ended up with the same kind of humanoid enemies from the other XCOM games as opposed to getting what they showed off in the 2010 version of the game when it was more of a horror FPS (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdVb4UnqO7A ).
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Jul 28, 2014 03:23
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ovaries posted:
Skipping out on a potentially fun game because it has a stupid pervy japanese easter egg is a really dumb loving thing. Disclaimer: I think the YS games are garbage, but I know a lot of people here enjoy them. e: I mean seriously unless you're trying to get all those sweet sweet cheevos you would never do the things that result in getting this scene in the course of the game.
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Jul 28, 2014 03:30
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Tempest_56 posted:Screw the gameplay, is the music score up to par? I've always been ambivalent to the Ace Combat games themselves but their soundtrack is the stuff of legend. I'd say so, it leans more towards the rock side of AC soundtracks as opposed to orchestral. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUUchxqHIpM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLqhF2wswYk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbapsli9er8 And, of course, the ending theme is so corny/bad its great. It really is "meaningless Blockbuster movie" soundtrack quality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVx1kq0B38U
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YOURFRIEND posted:Skipping out on a potentially fun game because it has a stupid pervy japanese easter egg is a really dumb loving thing. I've got a ton of other potentially fun Steam games sitting around and some of them probably don't even have rapey anime bullshit in them. I think I'll live
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`Accordion Man posted:No they don't, i.e. Cryostasis was taken off the store like two years ago, but I still have it in my account and I can install it. I still have Homefront in my library 
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homewrecker posted:Are there any good First/Third Person Shooters that have really unique and interesting enemy designs? I started playing XCOM - The Bureau and while it seems okay so far, it makes me sad that we ended up with the same kind of humanoid enemies from the other XCOM games as opposed to getting what they showed off in the 2010 version of the game when it was more of a horror FPS (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdVb4UnqO7A ). a fantastic fps is Bulletstorm, but that's more for gameplay reasons and story than enemy designs. It's not exceptional but I always thought Bioshock 1 had some great looking baddies. Doom 3 has solid enemy designs, I've always heard. You could always throw in Deadspace if you have Doom 3 on the list. Binary Domain had some pretty bomb robot baddies. It's also just a great loving game in general. Ghostbusters: The Videogame (NOT sanctum of slime) has cool looking ghosts. I really don't know that I've ever thought a game had AMAZING WOW enemies all the time. 
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Drunk Tomato posted:Has anyone tried the steam daily deal game Landmark? My wife and I love playing exploration / building games together Another goon gifted me this today, so I played it for about an hour. I didn't realize it til I went back to look at the store page, but I guess it's by (all or some of?) the Everquest developers. It's still in Early Access so it's a little buggy at times (I had a couple out-of-nowhere crashes and a couple more freezes.) It feels like a typical MMO, with crafting, from items you mine and harvest. The main gimmick is that you can stake claims in particular parts of land that aren't already claimed yet, and then build things on that claim with the materials you gather around the world. The first world I randomly chose didn't seem to have much open land, so I went to another, that was practically abandoned (again, Early Access so not a lot of people playing I guess). The graphics are really nice, and from looking at things built on other player's claimed land, there's some pretty impressive stuff you can build. There's not much else to the game right now, no quests, no monsters to fight, no pvp, but I read in the forums those things are going to be added at some point. Anyway, as I said, I've enjoyed it so far, so if you're into crafting/building/exploration in games, I recommend checking it out, especially if it's on sale. raven77 fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Jul 28, 2014 |
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homewrecker posted:Are there any good First/Third Person Shooters that have really unique and interesting enemy designs? I started playing XCOM - The Bureau and while it seems okay so far, it makes me sad that we ended up with the same kind of humanoid enemies from the other XCOM games as opposed to getting what they showed off in the 2010 version of the game when it was more of a horror FPS (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdVb4UnqO7A ). Deadspace 1 & 2 are both really good and have excellent monster design (only played 10 mins of 3 so I can't really comment on it). I'll echo Drifter that Binary Domain is pretty drat cool, but Doom 3 hasn't aged very well, especially if you're looking for a "Doom-style" game; it's more of a scary version of Half-Life than a run-and-gun FPS. It also looks ugly as sin, even with the BFG edition "upgrade". Oh, it's not a shooter, but Zeno Clash is a first person brawler that has some really imaginative character/setting design.
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Papercut posted:The funny thing is that somehow the racist caricature ended up being the only tolerable character in the entire game. It's because everyone else is taking things deadly serious 100% of the time and he's like, "lolwut, I wonder where we're going today? Oh, would you like me to smash your gems to turn them into one big gem? Sure, that will cost more gold than the GDP of Caldeum" Also his ally quest is amazing and heartbreaking and is written remarkably well, giving you a fairly open-ended story you can take at face value or not. Meanwhile, "MY STOMACH HURTS."
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There's a lot of talk about Diablo and how it's the king of ARPG. I have both Torchlights, along with D3 and its expansion. Ideally, I feel like the best ARPG is one that has tons of content, whereas Diablo's adventure mode is basically "here is you returning to parts of the game you've already seen, maybe with a couple monsters that are variably different than the last time." Is there an ARPG that just has heaps of content that always feels fresh?
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The Machinima Man posted:There's a lot of talk about Diablo and how it's the king of ARPG. I have both Torchlights, along with D3 and its expansion. Ideally, I feel like the best ARPG is one that has tons of content, whereas Diablo's adventure mode is basically "here is you returning to parts of the game you've already seen, maybe with a couple monsters that are variably different than the last time." I'm not an arpg guy, but I've played a few. For reference, I was horrendously bored with both Torchlight 1 and Torchlight 2. Divine Divinity is a wonderful cross between legit rpg and awesome arpg. It's a bit older, so it looks like a better Diablo 2. I found Titan Quest w/ Immortal THrone and the Underworld mod to be really fun back in the day. I've recently had lots of fun with Van Helsing, but it stopped being fun for me very close to the end. It might be more fun at the end for you crazy power users and grods, however. Does something like Bastion count? When you have all the god modifiers it can be pretty tough. And it's certainly fun. I'm not one to play newgame++++++ though.
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YOURFRIEND posted:Skipping out on a potentially fun game because it has a stupid pervy japanese easter egg is a really dumb loving thing.
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Drifter posted:I'm not an arpg guy, but I've played a few. I'd also add Iesabel to that list. It's cheap (currently 75% off on the Steam store, right now), certainly not lacking for content (especially for the current price), and the only drawback I've run into is that it can be frustrating at times (then again, I'm terrible at playing games). It's also been in a bunch of bundles, so if you pass on it now, I'm sure it will find its way into one again, soon. Dementropy fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Jul 28, 2014 |
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The Machinima Man posted:There's a lot of talk about Diablo and how it's the king of ARPG. I have both Torchlights, along with D3 and its expansion. Ideally, I feel like the best ARPG is one that has tons of content, whereas Diablo's adventure mode is basically "here is you returning to parts of the game you've already seen, maybe with a couple monsters that are variably different than the last time." I've been dabbling in Sacred 2 Gold and it seems to have an absolutely massive amount of content. Like dozens of side quests show up and you're doing them all and after hours and hours of it you're still only level 15 (I think the level cap is like 200). Unfortunately the actual gameplay seems to be ridiculously boring compared to D3, something that seems to be true of basically all other ARPGs.
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raven77 posted:Another goon gifted me this today, so I played it for about an hour. I didn't realize it til I went back to look at the store page, but I guess it's by (all or some of?) the Everquest developers. It's still in Early Access so it's a little buggy at times (I had a couple out-of-nowhere crashes and a couple more freezes.) It feels like a typical MMO, with crafting, from items you mine and harvest. The main gimmick is that you can stake claims in particular parts of land that aren't already claimed yet, and then build things on that claim with the materials you gather around the world. The first world I randomly chose didn't seem to have much open land, so I went to another, that was practically abandoned (again, Early Access so not a lot of people playing I guess).
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The Machinima Man posted:Is there an ARPG that just has heaps of content that always feels fresh? For something more recent, you might want to look into Marvel Heroes--especially as it's free. I've just started playing it recently and it's really quite fun, theres a little bit of an MMO and social aspect that makes it very lively when you easily party up with random people and go through the content. Combat is actually pretty drat good and satisfying. The game has no problems throwing hundreds of fodder at you to blow away. I haven't finished it yet, but it feels like there's a lot of stuff to do with a ton of hero choices that all play differently, and they seem to be adding more. Xaris fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Jul 28, 2014 |
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Bieeardo posted:I've heard that the last chapter is kind of cathartic, at least. I can say from my own personal and subjective experience that the entire game is amazing and at no point was any chapter a let-down. I'm at the last one now and while it sure is a lot of QTEs I'm still enjoying it. I've enjoyed it all enough to give the comic books a try despite knowing that it gets really "Pro-Israel" or something later in the series.
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Tempest_56 posted:Screw the gameplay, is the music score up to par? I've always been ambivalent to the Ace Combat games themselves but their soundtrack is the stuff of legend. Galaga Galaxian posted:I'd say so, it leans more towards the rock side of AC soundtracks as opposed to orchestral. As someone who really liked the soundtracks to the first two Ace Combats (not that I don't like the orchestral tracks of the PS2 and AC6) I was really happy they did this kind of heavy rock/orchestral mix. I think it worked out really well. And yes, the version of the ending song with lyrics is an amazing piece of dumb music. Though I think if you take out the lyrics its actually good, pretty sure its used in a few places during the game.
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I got an Xbox One controller for my PC despite its ridiculous price and I absolutely love it. I'm eagerly awaiting being able to use it wirelessly, if that will ever happen. Anybody know if or when Microsoft will release a PC dongle? How long did it take them to release a dongle for Xbox 360 controllers? Google hasn't been very helpful.
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So having a quest where Geralt gets drunk and fights two monsters was pretty amusing, but putting an ambush of dogs between you and the nearest fireplace? Not quite so funny.
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Geralt runs faster while drunk if he's waving his sword. Try it. 
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Geralt and the Chicken stuff was the funniest loving thing the first time I saw it.
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King Vidiot posted:I can say from my own personal and subjective experience that the entire game is amazing and at no point was any chapter a let-down. I'm at the last one now and while it sure is a lot of QTEs I'm still enjoying it. I've enjoyed it all enough to give the comic books a try despite knowing that it gets really "Pro-Israel" or something later in the series. I admit, I haven't really been impressed with the writing on Telltale's serious business games, but I read Fables and its spinoffs for a drat long time. There's some creepiness here and there (Willingham has a hard time writing villainesses who aren't panties-on-head insane), but it's a fun read for the first... sixty issues or so. Somewhere in that area there's an obvious Happily Ever After moment, after which the comic's dynamic begins to change and never really recovers. I quit sometime after issue 100, when he handwaved a villain of enormous potency away in six frames. I can recommend the 1001 Nights of Snowfall prequel book, which is really quite lovely, as well as the Jack spinoff and the short crossover between the two series. Cinderella: From Fabletown with Love is a fantastic miniseries, but Fables Are Forever ended its second-last issue on such a hosed up turn that I simply refused to read the last issue.
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