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I don't really think there's anything gritty about Schumacher's Batman. It's dark, sure, but in the same way a laser tag maze is dark. Gotham City is made up almost entirety of props for specific bat gadgets and transports and lit by neon colors. It's not grimy or gritty because after Batman locks up the bad guys there's employees who come along to sweep up and put it back in place for the next day.
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Lurdiak posted:It's fine if you guys like the Batman Burton films, but please don't act like people who don't are somehow joyless or care too much about the source material or whatever. Who was doing that?
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I remember seeing '89 Batman in theaters when I was a kid and I loved it! I also wasn't familiar enough with the source material to be judgmental, I just thought it was fun but also dark and spooky in a way. It might not hold up so great now and it's clearly not the same Batman as in the comics, but I think it's a fantastic film and deserves a little respect. It's a classic.
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Mar 11, 2016 08:32
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The Batman 89 logo is one of the best bits of corporate branding in history.
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Holy poo poo! Finally started on the Morrison run and I'm maybe 20 pages into "batman and son" and it's some of the most riveting poo poo I've ever read of batman. Damian is one bad mean pissed off little poo poo. He's loving Joffrey as a ninja. This is gonna be one hell of a ride!
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Batman Returns is perhaps bad in a traditional Batman sense but simply taken as a film in its own right, it's a wonderful and deeply strange and beautiful experience. The story of Moses, if he were a hideously deformed bird-man, stopped from inflicting righteous justice on the rich and decadent elite (by murdering their children with toxic waste and rocket penguins) only to be stopped by an even bigger lunatic, all the while we hit Peak Chris Walken. Plus that shot & music cue where the camera switches from the detonator to Batman's glowering eyes fixating on an immediately confused and terrified Oswald is literally my favourite ever. Teenage Fansub posted:is murdering a gang of goth circus performers really murdering? First they came for the mimes, and I said nothing for I was not a mime. Then they came for the goth circus performers...
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chaosapiant posted:Holy poo poo! Finally started on the Morrison run and I'm maybe 20 pages into "batman and son" and it's some of the most riveting poo poo I've ever read of batman. Damian is one bad mean pissed off little poo poo. He's loving Joffrey as a ninja. This is gonna be one hell of a ride! I wish I could read his run for the first time again. So much good stuff.
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chaosapiant posted:Holy poo poo! Finally started on the Morrison run and I'm maybe 20 pages into "batman and son" and it's some of the most riveting poo poo I've ever read of batman. Damian is one bad mean pissed off little poo poo. He's loving Joffrey as a ninja. This is gonna be one hell of a ride!
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What's the general opinion on the animated adaptations of that whole storyline? I saw that it had been added recently to Netflix.
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Don't watch it.
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PantsOptional posted:What's the general opinion on the animated adaptations of that whole storyline? I saw that it had been added recently to Netflix.
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chaosapiant posted:Holy poo poo! Finally started on the Morrison run and I'm maybe 20 pages into "batman and son" and it's some of the most riveting poo poo I've ever read of batman. Damian is one bad mean pissed off little poo poo. He's loving Joffrey as a ninja. This is gonna be one hell of a ride! Welcome to the greatest Batman run of all time.
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PantsOptional posted:What's the general opinion on the animated adaptations of that whole storyline? I saw that it had been added recently to Netflix. All trash.
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chaosapiant posted:Holy poo poo! Finally started on the Morrison run and I'm maybe 20 pages into "batman and son" and it's some of the most riveting poo poo I've ever read of batman. Damian is one bad mean pissed off little poo poo. He's loving Joffrey as a ninja. This is gonna be one hell of a ride! Please post your reactions every couple issues. It's like watching your favorite movie with someone who's seeing it for the first time. Wait until Damian--, and Batman--, and issue 666!
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I just started a rereading of Morrison's run today too. I'm always reminded of how much I love the panel where Damian says in awe "you have a rocket" and Bruce responds "I have a lot of stuff nobody knows about."
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PantsOptional posted:What's the general opinion on the animated adaptations of that whole storyline? I saw that it had been added recently to Netflix. It sucks. There are better DC cartoons to watch.
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Madkal posted:It sucks. There are better DC cartoons to watch. Like Red Hood.
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Glad to see my instinct was correct, then. Thanks.
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I have heard that the sequels are much better
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Bad Blood was awful because it totally screwed up Kate's reason for donning the Bat-symbol. 
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bobkatt013 posted:I have heard that the sequels are much better
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lotus circle posted:Dickbats is pretty amazing though and they didn't ruin Kate Kane either. They did their best, though!
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Travis343 posted:I just started a rereading of Morrison's run today too. I'm always reminded of how much I love the panel where Damian says in awe "you have a rocket" and Bruce responds "I have a lot of stuff nobody knows about." I was just thinking about that while reading the latest issue of Amazing Spider-Man. "I know everything about you, father." "Hh. You didn't know about the rocket."
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Travis343 posted:I just started a rereading of Morrison's run today too. I'm always reminded of how much I love the panel where Damian says in awe "you have a rocket" and Bruce responds "I have a lot of stuff nobody knows about." That's the moment at which I knew Morrison's Batman had become "my" Batman.
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As I'm reading thru Batman and Son the thing that's grabbing me the most is that Bruce/Batman actually has a personality. It's both jarring and awesome at the same time. I can't get enough of this, and I LOVE synder's stuff but this is another level!
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chaosapiant posted:As I'm reading thru Batman and Son the thing that's grabbing me the most is that Bruce/Batman actually has a personality. It's both jarring and awesome at the same time. I can't get enough of this, and I LOVE synder's stuff but this is another level!
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chaosapiant posted:As I'm reading thru Batman and Son the thing that's grabbing me the most is that Bruce/Batman actually has a personality. It's both jarring and awesome at the same time. I can't get enough of this, and I LOVE synder's stuff but this is another level! Oh man. You're in for a treat!
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Where is the "backup personality" stuff? Is that in the Black Glove storyline? Also is this reading order legit in your esteemed opinions? http://comicsastonish.com/2012/01/04/a-readers-guide-to-grant-morrisons-batman/
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fuf posted:Where is the "backup personality" stuff? Is that in the Black Glove storyline? Yeah that's in Batman: RIP which I just read this morning! Going to get to Final Crisis sometime this weekend.
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Dexie posted:Bad Blood was awful because it totally screwed up Kate's reason for donning the Bat-symbol. I also don't really like that they felt they had to kill ALL of the villains. Pinguin, Black Mask and Blockbuster were the only surviving villains and they just made cameos at the start and end, while they horribly murdered all the other villains who had roles for no real reason.
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MonsterEnvy posted:I also don't really like that they felt they had to kill ALL of the villains. Wait, 'they' as in the Batfamily? What the gently caress?
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fuf posted:Where is the "backup personality" stuff? Is that in the Black Glove storyline? quote:Also is this reading order legit in your esteemed opinions? It's one option. The are two messy points: the stuff around Final Crisis, and how B&R and Return of Bruce Wayne interleave. Final Crisis is important for Batman (and Batman is important for Final Crisis), but he's not really on screen for very long, and it's a pretty huge tangent if you're reading it just for him. Either read it after RIP, or skip it and just read the Batman issues and be prepared to fill in the gaps. Either way there's still a bit of a leap between the end of Final Crisis and the start of B&R, since how Dick becomes Batman isn't covered. B&R and RoBW are meant to be read at the same time, but it's a pain to do in trade and isn't strictly necessary until near the end (RoBW #6 and B&R #15). So my reading order suggestion looks like this, with optional titles in brackets (Black Casebook) Batman and Son Batman vs the Black Glove (assuming it's not included in the above) Batman RIP (Final Crisis) Last Rites (included in both of the above) Batman & Robin 1 Time and the Batman Batman & Robin 2 Return of Bruce Wayne Batman & Robin 3 Batman Inc. Batman Inc. 1 (N52 version) Batman Inc. 2 (N52 version)
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Return of Bruce Wayyne is better off after the end of Batman and Robin. RoBW works better when it's not breaking up the flow of B&R, and feels more like explaining the universes most elaborate magic trick.
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I'd go in publishing order, but that's how I read it when it was coming out. I remember Batman and Robin tying in well at the start of the Batman Vs Robin arc when Alfred is showing Dick and Damian portraits of Wayne ancestors or something. Wasn't there also some Barbatos stuff there too? Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 11:56 on Mar 13, 2016 |
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Teenage Fansub posted:Wasn't there also some Barbatos stuff there too?
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Doctor Spaceman posted:It comes to a head in RIP, but it's built up in the previous trade too. Thanks! 
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Yvonmukluk posted:Wait, 'they' as in the Batfamily? What the gently caress? They as in the creators of the movie. However the Batfamily was heavily involved in the deaths of the villains during the movie. Every single one is dispatched due to an accident or ineptitude on the hero’s part. Tusk, Firefly and Mad Hatter stand out for me. Tusk gets dropped into one of the Watchtowers turbines by Damian, who tries but utterly fails to save him. Firefly meanwhile gets his Jetpack damaged in the fighting and it causes him to fly into an engine shaft. Mad Hatter has his mind control device overloaded while it's attached to his head and it causes his head to explode. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Mar 14, 2016 |
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fuf posted:Where is the "backup personality" stuff? Is that in the Black Glove storyline? When I read through it I used the image here: http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/dr__maxwell/blog/morrison-batman-reading-order/54180/
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http://www.newsarama.com/28436-the-dark-knight-is-back-in-batman-50-preview.html Batman #50 
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Teenage Fansub posted:http://www.newsarama.com/28436-the-dark-knight-is-back-in-batman-50-preview.html
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