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Wasn't the ending scene of Defenders sufficient confirmation?
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Timby posted:Not a rumor, Cox confirmed it. Totally down with this. Be cool to have Bullseye in there somewhere but more Kingpin and less Hand is fine.
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Nov 13, 2017 02:27
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Martha Stewart Undying posted:You say that like it's a bad thing? He owns his blackness and it's cool af, it sounds more like you're not comfortable with something so unabashedly black. As a black dude myself it's pretty fun watching it because you don't get many characters/shows that both get why being black is cool/why it also loving sucks sometimes. i think i've been called racist in this thread for saying i'd want them to make iron fist asian... i'm filipino
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Nov 13, 2017 04:29
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Martha Stewart Undying posted:Yeah, but, where Danny Rand is a white dude in yellow-face, Luke Cage is a (corny) black guy in Harlem being a (corny) black guy in Harlem. I have uncles who are like Luke Cage. Bullet holes and jail time and all. No super powers tho. Yeah, I just felt that tone was even more exaggerated specifically for The Defenders.
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Nov 13, 2017 05:49
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Raserys posted:i think i've been called racist in this thread for saying i'd want them to make iron fist asian... i'm filipino Yea me too don’t worry about it. I totally see why it could be construed as a Kung fu master being Asian and all but it’s still better than surfer blonde pudgy white boy.
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Nov 13, 2017 06:07
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BiggerBoat posted:Totally down with this. Be cool to have Bullseye in there somewhere but more Kingpin and less Hand is fine. I unironically enjoyed Colin Ferrell's bullseye, though it could be because my expectations of the DDfleck movie were bedrock low.
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Nov 13, 2017 09:07
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Timby posted:Not a rumor, Cox confirmed it. I'm cool with this, just hope Karen's plot doesn't go go anywhere near comic Karen.
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Nov 13, 2017 09:39
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I would love to see shades of her Born Again plot, but don't go all the way with it. Really hoping this and Punisher give DAW something more substantial to work with, because she's really good.
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Nov 13, 2017 10:53
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Timby posted:Not a rumor, Cox confirmed it. Charlie Cox indicated in an interview that elements of "Born Again" would likely be adapted for season 3 of Daredevil, but that it would not be a page-for-page adaptation.[10] Not getting smacked out porno Karen.
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Nov 13, 2017 11:12
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4000 Dollar Suit posted:I unironically enjoyed Colin Ferrell's bullseye, though it could be because my expectations of the DDfleck movie were bedrock low. Darefleck is awesome movie just for Bullseye and Kingpin being hammy fucks, as much as the rest is bland and forgettable.
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Nov 13, 2017 13:46
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esperterra posted:I would love to see shades of her Born Again plot, but don't go all the way with it. Really hoping this and Punisher give DAW something more substantial to work with, because she's really good. Well, they're going to have to make some pretty substantial changes already, since Urich is dead and they won't be able to use Captain America.
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Nov 13, 2017 13:57
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This was neat. Also, Jesus Christ Frank's got a hook like a gorilla. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE9xRXxU9HA
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Nov 13, 2017 14:29
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Rocksicles posted:Not getting smacked out porno Karen. What if that's ALL it was?
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Nov 13, 2017 22:37
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AV Club reviews first six episodes of Punisher. Review is cautiously optimistic and positive. Most of the problems in the Marvel Netflix series have occurred in the back half, so it's hard to say how indicative the first six episodes are.
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Nov 14, 2017 02:32
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Alan Sepinwall, not a fan.
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Nov 14, 2017 02:43
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If it manages to be a solid Luke Cage in quality, I'll be relieved.
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Nov 14, 2017 02:52
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quote:The thought of that is more wearying than The Punisher itself is, though for the most part the series — created by Hannibal veteran Steve Lightfoot — trends towards the weaker, duller end of the Marvel/Netflix spectrum, possessing most of the common sins of its predecessors, good and bad, and fewer virtues than the good ones have. quote:As has unfortunately been the case with Daredevil and the Marvel shows that followed it, Punisher has many more episodes than story to fill them with. Though Netflix provided critics with the whole first season in advance, I ran out of patience after six episodes; they featured maybe enough material to justify three episodes, and probably two. Where the early shows like Jessica Jones and Luke Cage tended to start strong before running out of steam, the last few like this, Iron Fist and Defenders, have simply started slowly and then meandered from there. Ouch
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Nov 14, 2017 02:54
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Meh, I have no issues with filler episodes. They can be great for world-building as well as side-character development. I actually dislike densely-packed seasons for this reason. Defenders for example could have benefited for one or two episodes worth of light-hearted interaction between the characters.
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Nov 14, 2017 03:00
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The Punisher, more than any other Marvel Netflix property, benefits from downtime episodes. If every single episode was just blood and guts and bullets and revenge it would get a little much. The punisher is tied with Danny for being the least humanized of the 5 of them, so the more one he spends in the sunshine talking and chilling, the more I’ll care when he starts cappin’ fools
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Nov 14, 2017 03:11
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enraged_camel posted:I actually dislike densely-packed seasons for this reason. Defenders for example could have benefited for one or two episodes worth of light-hearted interaction between the characters. I would have watched an entire episode of them just having meals together.
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Nov 14, 2017 04:33
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Nov 14, 2017 04:42
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It strikes me as laughably bad that The Punisher reads Moby Dick and has a character tell him "The only person you're punishing is yourself!" Sepinwall confirmed the second part was a direct quote on twitter.
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Nov 14, 2017 06:48
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Frank: I hate metaphors. That’s why my favorite book is Moby Dick. No frou-frou symbolism. Just a good, simple tale about a man who hates an animal.
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Nov 14, 2017 07:59
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In It For The Tank posted:Frank: I hate metaphors. That’s why my favorite book is Moby Dick. No frou-frou symbolism. Just a good, simple tale about a man who hates an animal. Except he can never just close that loop and finish it.
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Nov 14, 2017 09:12
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RareAcumen posted:If it manages to be a solid Luke Cage in quality, I'll be relieved. Yeah, it's on the level of Luke Cage. It's much better than Iron Fist, The Defenders and the second half of Daredevil 2. It suffers a bit from being a story we've seen before but it doesn't really have the quality dips that later Luke Cage episodes had.
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Nov 14, 2017 11:36
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LesterGroans posted:Yeah, it's on the level of Luke Cage. It's much better than Iron Fist, The Defenders and the second half of Daredevil 2. It suffers a bit from being a story we've seen before but it doesn't really have the quality dips that later Luke Cage episodes had. As someone who apparently has low standards and enjoyed Iron Fist & Defenders I'm cool with this. 2nd half of Daredevil 2 def. sucked rear end though 
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Nov 14, 2017 11:44
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GobiasIndustries posted:2nd half of Daredevil 2 def. sucked rear end though It's still mind-boggling to me that the lame one-at-a-time rooftop ninja fight was their big finale setpiece.
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Nov 14, 2017 11:54
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LesterGroans posted:It's still mind-boggling to me that the lame one-at-a-time rooftop ninja fight was their big finale setpiece. Agreed. poo poo made no sense, especially since you had Frank with a BFG right across the street. I really like Beranthal in the role though and am super psyched for this
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Nov 14, 2017 14:28
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In It For The Tank posted:Frank: I hate metaphors. That’s why my favorite book is Moby Dick. No frou-frou symbolism. Just a good, simple tale about a man who hates an animal. I know what you did here and I appreciate it. 
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Nov 14, 2017 14:52
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BiggerBoat posted:I really like Beranthal in the role though and am super psyched for this Yeah he's great for the role, I loved him in the first couple eps of DDS2 and his prison-slaughter scene which I think was in the back-half of the season was 
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Nov 14, 2017 14:53
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So critics only got the first six episodes, so I guess the guy who said he watched the entire series works for Netflix or something? idk
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Nov 14, 2017 16:18
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Some got the full series according to reddit
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Most of his criticism seems to revolve around the fact that it reminds him that gun violence exists, which is a stupid loving angle. quote:The Punisher is most effective when its title character is indiscriminately slaughtering his foes, but that’s also when it most consistently evokes the kinds of real-life horrors that pushed the premiere back once, and could have kept pushing it back indefinitely. There may hopefully be a time when Frank’s actions don’t instantly recall horrors from our world, but that version of his story will still need to be told much more compellingly than this.
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Nov 14, 2017 16:29
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GobiasIndustries posted:Yeah he's great for the role, I loved him in the first couple eps of DDS2 and his prison-slaughter scene which I think was in the back-half of the season was Prison slaughter was loving amazing and now that we're confirmed for no ninjas I'm hoping there's more of it in the show.
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Nov 14, 2017 17:39
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I'm finally finishing Defenders, and why the hell did people think Foggy brought Matt the suit to talk him out of being Daredevil? The conversation was pretty clearly 'hey you need this so the cops don't figure out you're him if this goes bad'. Like it was all about keeping his two lives separate. Unless Foggy says something else about it later idk what the hell people were bitching about. The writing's bad in this show, but that scene was straightforward.
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Nov 14, 2017 21:00
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esperterra posted:Unless Foggy says something else about it later He does
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Nov 15, 2017 04:08
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I'll finish it up when I get home from work, but so far all Foggy said about it after giving the suit to Matt was telling Karen it needed to be done for the city, but maybe they'll get Matt back later. Pretty sure I was on the finale when I left, so we'll see. Holy gently caress though all those back to back 'we're not so different's.
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Nov 15, 2017 04:23
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Barry Convex posted:So critics only got the first six episodes, so I guess the guy who said he watched the entire series works for Netflix or something? idk In Sepinwall's review he says Netflix made the entire season available, he just only bothered to watch the first six. zoux posted:Most of his criticism seems to revolve around the fact that it reminds him that gun violence exists, which is a stupid loving angle. that the timing for releasing this show will always be unfortunate because some drat fool's gone and shot a bunch of people dead (like today) seems like a thing a critic should incorporate in his review.
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Nov 15, 2017 04:26
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esperterra posted:
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I remember DDs1 being better but just re-watched it and holy poo poo it's stupid just how much ridiculously better than everything else marvel netflix it is.esperterra posted:I'm finally finishing Defenders, and why the hell did people think Foggy brought Matt the suit to talk him out of being Daredevil? The conversation was pretty clearly 'hey you need this so the cops don't figure out you're him if this goes bad'. Like it was all about keeping his two lives separate. wasn't there a line at the end that went something like "I brought him the suit so that he could put it all behind him, but now I see I just pushed him back into it, and now he's dead" EFB runaway dog fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Nov 15, 2017 |
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