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There's a possibility that IO will grant us a ChromeOS tablet in the size range. That is the future of the form factor. Android tablets are dead and buried.
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ROJO posted:I'm in the same camp of really wanting to replace my Nexus 7 but not liking any of the available options. Galaxy Tab S2 is definitely on my list, and i would already have pulled the trigger if it looked like it had better ROM support - but I might just suck it up and deal with the samsung touchwiz junk to get a better tablet with more battery life. The Tab s2 (atleast the 2016 8" wifi) has official lineageos 15.1 (android 8.1)
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LastInLine posted:I've been doing some research and my discovery is no, there is not. I'm guessing you're want updates for development purposes and aren't looking to actually use it which makes it difficult because as far as I can tell with the dropping of the Pixel C there are no official Google-supported tablets at all. I just don't really want to recommend something that never gets security or OS updates and the user is used to Motorola and Nexus devices so I'm not going to suggest anything with a horrible Samsung UI on it. I guess the tablet market is just so tiny that nobody cares. Including Google. bull3964 posted:There's a possibility that IO will grant us a ChromeOS tablet in the size range. That is the future of the form factor. In this particular case the usage is really just browsing so ChromeOS would work totally fine. I assume there is no such device currently? I think the smallest Chromebook I've seen is like 10in and it probably had a keyboard attached. Tunga fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Mar 11, 2018 |
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Mar 11, 2018 14:17
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/circuitbreaker/2018/1/26/16935710/acer-chrome-os-tablet-sneak-preview Keyboardless ChromeOS devices are coming.
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Mar 11, 2018 15:12
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So when Android stops becoming a thing, what OS will Amazon use to power its tablets?
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Mar 11, 2018 16:27
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They've already pretty much forked Android, so I can't see them shifting any time soon.
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Mar 11, 2018 16:54
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Yeah, Android is going to continue to exist for phones, it's not like Amazon was basing FireOS on a tablet specific build of Android or anything.
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Mar 11, 2018 16:56
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Tunga posted:I assume there is no such device currently? I think the smallest Chromebook I've seen is like 10in and it probably had a keyboard attached. There have been hybrid ChromeOS devices designed to be fully functional in keyboard-less mode for a while now, at the very least.
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Mar 11, 2018 17:49
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Don Lapre posted:The Tab s2 (atleast the 2016 8" wifi) has official lineageos 15.1 (android 8.1) Oh really? Nice! I must have missed that in my searching somehow 
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Mar 11, 2018 18:10
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bull3964 posted:Android tablets are dead and buried.  1. The Oreo CDD added "Android Tablet Device" as a distinct device type from "Android Handheld" for the first time ever. 2. The "Android Enterprise Recommended" thingie they released late last month references tablets:  https://androidenterprisepartners.withgoogle.com/ Also part of the entry conditions is "Standard AOSP strings": https://www.android.com/intl/en_us/enterprise/recommended/requirements/ 3. The head of product for Chrome OS denied outright to The Verge at IO 2017 that they're taking Chrome OS in an Android-first direction, and intends it to be a secondary platform to the Web: quote:But even when Google finally does “go big” and take Android apps out of beta, the company isn’t going to try to get users to abandon web apps. Even when Android apps are working better, many of them simply aren’t going to look great on a big screen. Some will still default to a phone size and Google will pop up a warning to users to resize them. Others simply just can’t compete with web versions of the same. "I don't ever expect anybody to use the Android version of Facebook on this,” says Liu. “Because the web version is much better." quote:Liu says that it was “not our vision at all” to have users drop web apps for Android apps on Chrome OS wholesale. They’re still largely meant to be things that fill in gaps that web apps can’t fill: like games, downloading Netflix movies, and those weird edge cases. Right now, half of the top ten most used Android apps on Chromebooks are games. https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/18/15659364/chromebook-pro-android-beta-release-date-features-io-2017 4. Made by Google went through the effort of creating a unique PIXEL_TABLET_EXPERIENCE flag/build system for the Pixel C when they Pixified it from Stock Android (which it has in addition to same the PIXEL_EXPERIENCE flag the phones have) suggesting they plan to reuse it. Plus there's this quote from the editiorial Osterloh did with Wired last month: quote:“Eventually, it will be the case that users probably have a constellation of devices to get things done,” Osterloh says. Google’s definitely thinking about tablets, definitely thinking about augmented-reality glasses, definitely thinking about wearables, and many more. But Osterloh speaks of “earning the right” to chase the buyers of those devices, of wanting to prove his team’s viability in existing markets. https://www.wired.com/story/one-mans-quest-to-make-googles-gadgets-great/ Mentioning tablets as a market he hasn't entered is strange if Chrome OS in its current iteration was the endgame as Pixelbook would count.
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Mar 11, 2018 20:40
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There's been NOTHING though. No devices for over two years. No leaks. No hints. Nadda. Even "I poo poo out 20 devices a year" Samsung is ignoring tablets.
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Mar 11, 2018 20:56
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I mean if they want to move towards the Windows 10 hybrid thing where you can toggle between Chrome OS and Android mode with ease on a tablet like Windows users can with Desktop/Tablet mode, that would be great
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Mar 11, 2018 21:16
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There's no need to toggle on ChromeOS. It just runs Android apps normally. You flip a ChromeOS convertible into tablet mode and it's basically an Android tablet with full chrome.
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Mar 11, 2018 21:58
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MikeJF posted:There have been hybrid ChromeOS devices designed to be fully functional in keyboard-less mode for a while now, at the very least.
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Mar 11, 2018 22:21
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Tunga posted:But they're all 10" or bigger, right? There is no Nexus 7 equivalent. It kind of feels like a 6" phone is the new 7" tablet. I used my Nexus 7 less when I got a Nexus 6, but after upgrading to a pixel I wandered back in here to see if there was anything that filled that same space. Nexus 7 is still going strong after a battery replacement but it's pretty slow compared to new phones, etc.
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Mar 12, 2018 00:38
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I think the 8" tablet like the Shield or the Kindle 8 or Tab A took the smallest tablet default from the Nexus 7, it's much more usable and barely larger due to the N7's giant bezels.
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Mar 12, 2018 04:07
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Rexxed posted:It kind of feels like a 6" phone is the new 7" tablet. I used my Nexus 7 less when I got a Nexus 6, but after upgrading to a pixel I wandered back in here to see if there was anything that filled that same space. Nexus 7 is still going strong after a battery replacement but it's pretty slow compared to new phones, etc.
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Mar 15, 2018 09:39
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Tunga posted:Yeah, this is exactly the situation. If you don't want to carry a huge phone around there's no good option for couch browsing around that size. There is the option of just using a giant phone as a tablet.
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Mar 15, 2018 10:31
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LastInLine posted:There is the option of just using a giant phone as a tablet.
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Tunga posted:This is a rather expensive option though. It doesn't have to be. There's a reasonable selection of slightly older hardware in large cheap phones out there, and you can get the devices for like $200-$350. Considering the Nexus 7s were $250, it's not so bad a price range and some of them are like 6.5 inch screens.
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The Xiaomi Mi Max 2 has a 6.4" screen and 5300mAh battery (compared to the Nexus 7's 3900mAh). I think it's a good replacement for around 200€. SD625 and 4gb, 32/64Gb storage and SD card.
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Mar 17, 2018 11:31
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Finally got the Galaxy S2 and loved it until I was watching Netflix today and found out about black crush and now I hate everything
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Looks like my 2013 N7 has finally given up the ghost. What's my best choice for a reasonably priced bedside Netflix/web browsing machine at this point? (If the answer is "a big phone", I've got an old Nexus 6 I'm not using as a phone any more that will probably be my interim option til it dies). I'm guessing otherwise I'm looking at some flavor of Amazon tablet?
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docbeard posted:Looks like my 2013 N7 has finally given up the ghost. What's my best choice for a reasonably priced bedside Netflix/web browsing machine at this point? (If the answer is "a big phone", I've got an old Nexus 6 I'm not using as a phone any more that will probably be my interim option til it dies). Yup. Fire HD 8, probably, or if you want to "splurge," Fire HD 10. Personally, I think the HD 10 is worth it, but I got in on a Black Friday sale for $100.
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Mar 20, 2018 01:21
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Can you root Fire/Nook devices to get normal android on them?
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RFC2324 posted:Can you root Fire/Nook devices to get normal android on them? Old ones, not new ones
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Mar 20, 2018 03:56
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docbeard posted:Looks like my 2013 N7 has finally given up the ghost. What's my best choice for a reasonably priced bedside Netflix/web browsing machine at this point? (If the answer is "a big phone", I've got an old Nexus 6 I'm not using as a phone any more that will probably be my interim option til it dies). Refurb'd Fire HDX tablets are a nice substitute for the N7. The 7" HDX is around $75 when it shows up on Woot.
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Guillermus posted:The Xiaomi Mi Max 2 has a 6.4" screen and 5300mAh battery (compared to the Nexus 7's 3900mAh). I think it's a good replacement for around 200€. SD625 and 4gb, 32/64Gb storage and SD card. The first gen and second gen Mi Max with global ROM are wonderful phones for tablet duty with some crazy battery life. I got mine for USD 180 in Asia without contract.
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RFC2324 posted:Can you root Fire/Nook devices to get normal android on them? FWIW, as media consumption devices the OS doesn't really matter too much.
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docbeard posted:Looks like my 2013 N7 has finally given up the ghost. What's my best choice for a reasonably priced bedside Netflix/web browsing machine at this point? (If the answer is "a big phone", I've got an old Nexus 6 I'm not using as a phone any more that will probably be my interim option til it dies). For Netflix literally anything. I'm using a Pantech Element (a Waterproof tablet from 2012 that's still on Honeycomb) https://www.cnet.com/products/pantech-element-at-t/review/. Hilariously it has an easier time running Netflix then local media stored on the device. You can't use it to read web pages, often even a single web page in chrome will overwhelm the 1gb of ram and cause a crash.
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Do i need to do anything special to get my new amazon fire hd to work like a standard android tablet? i already installed firefox using the apk so i can browse with ublock. will it play stuff like mkv files easily? its the first time i've had a tablet
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Mar 20, 2018 16:41
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Jose posted:Do i need to do anything special to get my new amazon fire hd to work like a standard android tablet? i already installed firefox using the apk so i can browse with ublock. will it play stuff like mkv files easily? Nah, just install apps and use them to do things. You can install the regular Google Play Store so you're not stuck with the limited selection of often out-of-date apps on the Amazon store.
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Mar 20, 2018 17:49
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Posting from my Fire, which still doesn't behave like a real android tablet, but there are a bunch of YouTube videos on how to install the play store and get real apps that way. The crap launcher is ever-present though.
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MarsellusWallace posted:The crap launcher is ever-present though. Only technically though. Launcher hijack lets you use any launcher you want.
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I don't know much about the CPU and I know nothing about the company..."Chuwi", but this might be a decent tablet a step above the Fire stuff. 10" 2560x1600 IPS MediaTek HelioX20 4GB RAM 64GB storage Oreo Less than $250 USD
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Thermopyle posted:I don't know much about the CPU and I know nothing about the company..."Chuwi", but this might be a decent tablet a step above the Fire stuff. That CPU and GPU are roughly comparable to the Samsung Galaxy S7 phone, maybe a little bit slower. Not the best you could have gotten at this point but it should be a step above the current Fire devices.
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Mar 20, 2018 21:37
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Huawei has launched the Mediapad M5 tablet series. It's on Android 8 and unlike the M3 has dual-band wifi. Not cheap however.
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Mar 21, 2018 22:04
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I've been pretty happy with my Kindle fire HD 8 after I got the play store, launcher hijacker, and nova launcher. Posting from it right now, actually. I do have to occasionally reboot it when loading anything starts taking forever (presumably a memory leak somewhere). Did also get an elastic hand strap to hold it one handed easier.
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fishmech posted:That CPU and GPU are roughly comparable to the Samsung Galaxy S7 phone, maybe a little bit slower. Not the best you could have gotten at this point but it should be a step above the current Fire devices. Well, except Mediatek drivers are nowhere near as optimized as Qualcomm and Exynos.
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Some Alexa devices (Fire tablets included) are 20% off at Amazon today only Fire HD 8 - $59.99 Fire 7 - $39.99 Fire HD 10 - $119.99
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