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NAT-T Ice posted:i do find it amusing tho that uefi and whatever other new low level poo poo was supposed to make that stuff simpler and saner but have mostly just shown that firmware devs are still just as prone to shipping hacky workarounds that only work with the oem os/version. now they just have more space to gently caress poo poo up in EFI actually was simpler and saner UEFI was intel buckling under pressure and mixing all the crazy back in
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i would love it if Thinkpads no longer supported linux because then maybei could get a good work computer instead of a garbage work computer
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I've had my thinkpad for a year and the 'f' key is already broken
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:i would love it if Thinkpads no longer supported linux because then maybei could get a good work computer instead of a garbage work computer what about a Dell
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that's just Linux not supporting an Intel peripheral, not anything else. Ubuntu boots, it just doesn't recognize the hard drive.
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what exactly is "legacy ahci mode" ? ahci mode is kind of the standard
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:EFI actually was simpler and saner Lol. UEFI is compiled with regular CC toolchains, which are nefarious for doing stupid poo poo with memory.
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mike12345 posted:So basically Microsoft is getting scared of Linux (again), and makes sweet deals with hardware manufacturers? Suspicious Dish posted:that's just Linux not supporting an Intel peripheral, not anything else. Ubuntu boots, it just doesn't recognize the hard drive. yeah apparently it's something like a - microsoft's signature edition poo poo requires mfrs to lock uefi bios settings into the "highest performing" mode b - someone at lenovo decided that enabling intel raid is highest performance c - chipset's super new and linux doesn't support its intel raid mode yet, or something like that i haven't been able to figure out why the gently caress putting a single ssd into "raid" mode makes any sense but whatever, that's well within the normal range of lenovo incompetence and/or random pc-industry technical weirdness
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Ah, that also adequately explains the employee's "locked" response. Since it's a BIOS setting that's locked that's otherwise unrelated to Linux, except for the fact that Linux doesn't support it.
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whats a good light 14 inch or less laptop that supports linux well and is faster than my 2013 macbook air with an i7-4650u intel hd is fine
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apparently a dell xps 13 the casing still looks extremely cheap and lovely though, at least compared to macbook aluminum and thinkpad x1  carbon fiber
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Olivil posted:whats a good light 14 inch or less laptop that supports linux well and is faster than my 2013 macbook air with an i7-4650u
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Mr Dog posted:apparently a dell xps 13
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i know a guy who had a xps 13 and the case cracked (from the esc key to the corner of the case) in like 6 months and dell wouldnt honor it under warranty the guy is usually pretty careful with his stuff so lol nope
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Mr Dog posted:apparently a dell xps 13 I have an xps15 and its real good. the carbon fiber hand rests are gr8 but then its got aluminum on the outside.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:that casing looks better than your posts for sure i mean that's not a very high bar to clear tbf Olivil posted:i know a guy who had a xps 13 and the case cracked (from the esc key to the corner of the case) in like 6 months and dell wouldnt honor it under warranty lol
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Suspicious Dish posted:that's just Linux not supporting an Intel peripheral, not anything else. Ubuntu boots, it just doesn't recognize the hard drive. nothing supports the peripheral, not even windows 10 lenovo had to slipstream the driver lol
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Lightbulb Out posted:what exactly is "legacy ahci mode" ? ahci mode is kind of the standard it's legacy because lenovo doesn't think you need it anymore clearly 
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lol i was looking into linux support for the "new" macbook (the 12 inch one) and nowadays pretty much everything works with minimal fixes.... BUT the keyboard and trackpad still don't work to this day
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Olivil posted:lol i was looking into linux support for the "new" macbook (the 12 inch one) and nowadays pretty much everything works with minimal fixes.... i just fire up linux in vmware any time i want to be reminded why i stopped using it on the desktop e: forgot that i was using the good vm not the ok one Soricidus fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Sep 21, 2016 |
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that's okay, the keyboard doesn't work in macos, either
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Soricidus posted:i just fire up linux in parallels any time i want to be reminded why i stopped using it on the desktop this really, linux on the server and in a vm or ten, but running it on the metal on a laptop/desktop is not really worth it in any way
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I haven't used mac os since 10.8 but it seemed like it was pretty loving bad, how is it nowadays? it sucks cause macbooks suit the gently caress out of my needs hardware wise but mac os is so bad...
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:this really, linux on the server and in a vm or ten, but running it on the metal on a laptop/desktop is not really worth it in any way preferably i wouldn't even run linux on bare metal, just osx and esxi
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Olivil posted:lol i was looking into linux support for the "new" macbook (the 12 inch one) and nowadays pretty much everything works with minimal fixes.... lol you're probably using ubuntu use a non-lovely distro and embrace the light of libinput
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i use arch with i3 it suits the gently caress out of my software needs
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Mr Dog posted:lol you're probably using ubuntu
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https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/44694.html tl;dr: Intel storage controllers can be configured to show up as either standard AHCI controllers or a non-standard "RAID controller" Intel storage controllers require special magic bullshit that the Windows AHCI driver doesn't support in order for power management to actually work the stock Windows AHCI driver will bind to the AHCI controllers automatically Lenovo set the firmware to switch the storage controller into RAID mode to force the non-standard Intel drivers to get loaded instead of the stock Windows AHCI driver. there's no way to change this because why would they care? there are no magic Intel AHCI drivers for Linux
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Olivil posted:I haven't used mac os since 10.8 but it seemed like it was pretty loving bad, how is it nowadays? it's fine. once you get your choice of macports/homebrew set up and maybe remap the keys a bit it's just like using a linux, except with fewer things randomly not working. it even does virtual desktops well these days.
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Soricidus posted:it's fine. once you get your choice of macports/homebrew set up and maybe remap the keys a bit it's just like using a linux, except with fewer things randomly not working. it even does virtual desktops well these days. lol homebrew
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:lol homebrew homebrew is loving fantastic
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:I've had my thinkpad for a year and the 'f' key is already broken a person in your position (writing Linux code) should be using a Mac they don't actually expect you to also use Linux through anything besides ssh do they?
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Olivil posted:whats a good light 14 inch or less laptop that supports linux well and is faster than my 2013 macbook air with an i7-4650u 13in MacBook Pro with Retina Display
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Olivil posted:I haven't used mac os since 10.8 but it seemed like it was pretty loving bad, how is it nowadays? it wasn't bad and it's not bad now, the day after macOS 10.12 was released
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ahmeni posted:homebrew is loving fantastic shameful posting
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eschaton posted:13in MacBook Pro with Retina Display broadcom wireless, two generations ago chipset fail
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eschaton posted:a person in your position (writing Linux code) should be using a Mac you sad man. apple is a consumer electronics firm. mac sales don't drive phone sales. what is your division really for? how is it going to feel when they abandon your entire division in favor of being microsoft partners
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