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I was sure I remembered Martin Landau having passed away like 2 years ago, like I'm pretty sure it was the catalyst for me to rewatch North by Northwest (also because the movie rules) but nope he was apparently holding out for me to watch Ready to Rumble again and eventually got tired of it.
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Jerusalem posted:I was sure I remembered Martin Landau having passed away like 2 years ago, like I'm pretty sure it was the catalyst for me to rewatch North by Northwest (also because the movie rules) but nope he was apparently holding out for me to watch Ready to Rumble again and eventually got tired of it. Oh than that's just the #MandelaEffect I've got some bad news about the Berenstain Bears.
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I'm mad that Bryan Alvarez has done story after story on After Dark about the yeti, and yet not a single investigation of the Yeah-Tay
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Somebody has already uploaded the YET-TAY to the new Fire Pro game.
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Stevie Ray being problematic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TkeQzbv6Fc
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rovert posted:Stevie Ray being problematic R. Kelly is a poser
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rovert posted:Stevie Ray being problematic Here goes Booker T's chances for mayorship.
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MassRafTer posted:Oh than that's just the #MandelaEffect I've got some bad news about the Berenstain Bears. The Mandela Effect is Reddit for "I will create an alternate universe before I will admit that there's something problematic about my inability to tell Shaq and Sinbad apart." 
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Claytor posted:The Mandela Effect is Reddit for "I will create an alternate universe before I will admit that there's something problematic about my inability to tell Shaq and Sinbad apart." That one makes no sense to me. How in the world do people not have an awareness of how wonderful Shaq is. He's Shaqtastic. Of course he made Kazaam. Genie in a boombox. God drat it.
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He ain't wrong. The police really hosed up their framing by taking too many pictures before they doctored it.
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warrior coming to wcw killed them imo
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ribtstu posted:warrior coming to wcw killed them imo Nah, they had plenty of opportunities to right the ship after Warrior was done. Goldberg was still champ, ratings and buys and gates were all still good, it's just that they were coming in second. Warrior was just a symptom that Bischoff was getting desperate, and thought the answer was yet another guy who was well past his peak of popularity, as opposed to building up the guys he already had. And the TV didn't start to get REALLY lovely until later that year.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Nah, they had plenty of opportunities to right the ship after Warrior was done. Goldberg was still champ, ratings and buys and gates were all still good, it's just that they were coming in second. Warrior was more a symptom that Hogan had a lot of power and an ego. If they could have moved Hogan into nostalgia feuds it may have actually helped things... if it didn't lead to Goldberg not getting a single heated feud while he was champ.
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True. I can now sort of understand that of course they had to keep Hogan happy, on top of creative control there was the threat of his leaving or worse, being lured back to WWF; on the other hand it's clear that Bischoff never really tried to bring any of his buddies under control so we don't know what might have been.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Hogan... being lured back to WWF; Wonder how THAT would have played out.
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Defiance Industries posted:Wonder how THAT would have played out. Hogan threatened to go back basically every year from December of 96 through 99. Brother Love claims talks got really close one year but I kind of doubt it.
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Was Hogan signing one year contracts?
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oldpainless posted:Was Hogan signing one year contracts? Nope! (I think the first couple were pretty short though.)
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MassRafTer posted:Hogan threatened to go back basically every year from December of 96 through 99. Brother Love claims talks got really close one year but I kind of doubt it. I have no doubt that Hogan used to do that. I was more wondering what kind of deal Vince would have hypothetically given him since Austin was A. Hotter than the surface of the loving sun as a draw and B. Vocal about his distaste for Hogan WOULD Hogan have come back to a deal that didn't offer him creative control and all the perks he was used to?
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Defiance Industries posted:
That's what he did in his 2002 run.
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The NWO and the Attitude Era were so different I can't even imagine Hogan coming back to the WWF at all
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Shiki Dan posted:That's what he did in his 2002 run. I didn't think he had creative until his 2005 run?
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Shiki Dan posted:That's what he did in his 2002 run. Because his options were limited and he didn't have the WCW Pinata to bash anymore. In 1998...not so much.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Nah, they had plenty of opportunities to right the ship after Warrior was done. Goldberg was still champ, ratings and buys and gates were all still good, it's just that they were coming in second.
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There was a year at the Rumble where they teased Hogan entering, I'm gonna assume that was the "year it got close" perhaps?
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algebra testes posted:There was a year at the Rumble where they teased Hogan entering, I'm gonna assume that was the "year it got close" perhaps? Not doubting you but when was this? I don't remember it at all.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Not doubting you but when was this? I don't remember it at all. I think I'm thinking of this incident, from 98 quote:They've been doing hotline teases based on trying to make money off false stories in wrestling, and there is certainly never going to be a shortage of that. Last week they teased to call about Hogan in the Rumble, and then indignantly said he wasn't and there had been no negotiations. The Savage hotline story went exactly the same From the observer jan 26 98 In my defence, when you rewatch the TV you have no context of them just denying it when you call and it seems like they're actually teasing it. From the week before here's some more stuff: quote:Which leads us to a more tricky situation, the contractual situation regarding Hulk Hogan. The general belief within WCW is that Hogan inked a new deal with WCW on 1/12, which is why his attorney, Henry Holmes, who was in town to finalize the deal, appeared on Nitro. Supposedly coming off the wildly successful Starrcade, Hogan was able to negotiate himself a huge raise, some saying $1.5 million per year, with the same money figure being thrown around as the appearance bond being an inside rib regarding the raise (just as Eric Bischoff throwing around the $7.5 million figure in the Bret Hart skits may have been an approximation of the total worth over three years of the real deal) . Perhaps the figure is true. We do know that the original storyline was going to be a $1 million performance bond and it was changed.
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Halloween Jack posted:As we've gone over, you can't really trace WCW's downfall to a single turning point because the TV ratings, PPV buys, and ticket sales didn't all go up and down together. Their house show business collapsed throughout 1999 after the Fingerpoke, but it's not like the Fingerpoke of Doom itself killed WCW. WCW has always been dying ever since Crockett bought out Watts in the JCP days. That the nWo gave them an incredible 18 month run or whatever is a huge loving anomaly on a bad company run by a succession of stupider and stupider people.
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That's a pretty perfect summation. They only managed what they did by lucking into the hottest angle in history, and they couldn't even turn that into long-term success.
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Q_res posted:That's a pretty perfect summation. They only managed what they did by lucking into the hottest angle in history, and they couldn't even turn that into long-term success. There's not many angles that will turn your company into the biggest company in wrestling history and give you 2+ years of huge profits. There's probably as many examples of hot periods leading to massive down turns as there are hot periods leading to sustained success. There's many that saw companies dying off too. Montreal's hot period in the 70s saw both competing companies die!
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If WCW was prepared to be 2nd, then they could well still be around. The nWo made them 1st, and was insanely hot, but that was never going to last forever. If they had been sensible and been prepared to accept OK-Good returns, rather than chasing dominance over Vince in increasingly shortsighted, reckless, stupid, and insanely expensive ways, (bringing in Warrior being one that ticks all 3 of the aforementioned reasons), then it's arguable that they could still be on TV today. Giving wrestlers more places to work, and viewers more choice. I mean, we'll never know, but I still think it is arguable.
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This is the greatest bobblehead in the history of our sport!
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I’m so mad I’m going to miss THE WALL
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Endless Mike posted:This is the greatest bobblehead in the history of our sport! Should put around 2,500 butts in the seats.
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BrigadierSensible posted:If WCW was prepared to be 2nd, then they could well still be around. if they had been second place, wouldn't they have still been killed by the aol merger?
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Endorph posted:if they had been second place, wouldn't they have still been killed by the aol merger? That probably had more to do with them losing over $60 million in TYOOL 2000. if they were still making money I'm sure whatever suitdummy was put in charge of them would've kept them around regardless of ratings.
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