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Star Man posted:Only for that Democratic president to be blamed for not making everything better overnight and we'll be back to Republican armageddon before you can say "neoliberal." It's kind of clever the way the Republicans are aligning the boom-bust cycle so they get the booms and Democrats get the busts.
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It never fails to surprise me that, for all the high-tech approaches you could theoretically take, it is still sufficient to phish folks for credentials. It really feels like a sufficiently large organization is powerless again failing against that sort of thing because you are bound to have at least one idiot who takes the bait and then it's all over.
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Waiting for Glenn Greenwald to tell us everyone's jumping at Russian shadows again.
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Jun 5, 2017 21:02
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The sad fact is that if unemployment stays where it, the economy stays where it is, and we don't have a major war then most likely Trump will be re-elected.
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Jun 5, 2017 21:05
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:It never fails to surprise me that, for all the high-tech approaches you could theoretically take, it is still sufficient to phish folks for credentials. It really feels like a sufficiently large organization is powerless again failing against that sort of thing because you are bound to have at least one idiot who takes the bait and then it's all over. Hardware 2 factor tokens are about the only defense.
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Jun 5, 2017 21:06
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https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/871813606735659008 https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/871812760534999040
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:It never fails to surprise me that, for all the high-tech approaches you could theoretically take, it is still sufficient to phish folks for credentials. It really feels like a sufficiently large organization is powerless again failing against that sort of thing because you are bound to have at least one idiot who takes the bait and then it's all over. Humans are the weakest part of a security system worth being called a security system.
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Jun 5, 2017 21:07
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 https://twitter.com/k_mcq/status/871770296667299841  WeSearchr is run by Chuck C. Johnson, ol floor shitter
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Xae posted:Humans are the weakest part of a security system worth being called a security system. I mean 'Hey man, I lost my keys, can you let me in' will always be a good move.
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Jun 5, 2017 21:10
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Hollismason posted:The sad fact is that if unemployment stays where it, the economy stays where it is, and we don't have a major war then most likely Trump will be re-elected. Good news! Trump will have a lot of difficulty with the "not having a major war" thing. Oh, wait. That isn't good news.
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Night10194 posted:I mean 'Hey man, I lost my keys, can you let me in' will always be a good move. Or just beating a guy with a crowbar until he gives you the password.
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Jun 5, 2017 21:16
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Hollismason posted:The sad fact is that if unemployment stays where it, the economy stays where it is, and we don't have a major war then most likely Trump will be re-elected. How likely is it that the economy will remain where it is?
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:It never fails to surprise me that, for all the high-tech approaches you could theoretically take, it is still sufficient to phish folks for credentials. It really feels like a sufficiently large organization is powerless again failing against that sort of thing because you are bound to have at least one idiot who takes the bait and then it's all over. Require MFA for literally everything. business hammocks posted:How likely is it that the economy will remain where it is? Pretty low. On average you see an economic contraction every 10-15 years. Even if it's not as big as the 2008 contraction, it is still more likely than not that we will have one.
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Jun 5, 2017 21:16
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axeil posted:Require MFA for literally everything. After the way they ruined American literature? No thank you.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:It never fails to surprise me that, for all the high-tech approaches you could theoretically take, it is still sufficient to phish folks for credentials. It really feels like a sufficiently large organization is powerless again failing against that sort of thing because you are bound to have at least one idiot who takes the bait and then it's all over. There's more you can do in the form of dynamic passwording to where for most systems a user doesn't even need a password, or the one used for access to systems is not the same they know. Add in 2FA, a good host FW, and proper DLP controls and much can be prevented. The failing is not the idiot, rather the company that doesn't account for the idiot being an idiot.
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Demon Of The Fall posted:it was awesome when he hopped on the back of some random dude's scooter and they took off when he was being hounded by the press That was a different soccer team owner
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Shifty Pony posted:Hardware 2 factor tokens are about the only defense. You can still phish for 2 factor tokens, you just have to be ready to immediately use the credential.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:WeSearchr is run by Chuck C. Johnson, And he set up WeSearchr because GoFundMe banned the sort of legal defense fundraisers alt-righters and cops kept starting.
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OhDearGodNo posted:There's more you can do in the form of dynamic passwording to where for most systems a user doesn't even need a password, or the one used for access to systems is not the same they know. Well it's not just that you need these good policies but then you need unilateral buy-in across whatever the entity is. Even the NSA knew better and still worked in lazy little hackarounds and backdoors and they got burned for it. There will always be people who are too lazy or demands that are too pressing to do things the proper way 100% of the time.
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Jun 5, 2017 21:23
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axeil posted:Pretty low. On average you see an economic contraction every 10-15 years. Even if it's not as big as the 2008 contraction, it is still more likely than not that we will have one. Quicker than that, possibly. The cycle on average is less than 5 years of expansion and right now we're in a record expansionary period - likely propelled by global factors
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Sorry if this has been addressed in the last 10 pages or so already, but why DOES the US love Saudi Arabia so much? I know they gave big dinner boy the firmest of rear end-pattings during his Big Boy Adventuretime Trip, but why is the rest of the administration on board with this?
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Shifty Pony posted:Hardware 2 factor tokens are about the only defense. Despite having been a thing for literally decade(s) now, I can't believe they're still not more widespread.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:I don't think he's done anything to suggest he's dumber than the average politico He's not, I was focusing on the part of the post I quoted talking about how most world leaders have experience. Justin Trudeau was a Prime Minister's son, and was by no means a career politician prior to running for the leadership of the Liberal party.
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Jun 5, 2017 21:24
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voltroon posted:Sorry if this has been addressed in the last 10 pages or so already, but why DOES the US love Saudi Arabia so much? I know they gave big dinner boy the firmest of rear end-pattings during his Big Boy Adventuretime Trip, but why is the rest of the administration on board with this? They have oil and hated the Soviets.
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pillsburysoldier posted:What's Evergreen College and why to conservatives and Joe Rogan want to use it suddenly to say college is bad Evergreen College or Evergreen State? If it's the latter, I suspect it has something to do with this case: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/05/30/escalating-debate-race-evergreen-state-students-demand-firing-professor . Short version: A professor didn't want to participate in a controverted version of the tradition of "Day of Absence", and made comments about this. Some students got mad about this, calling the prof racist demanding him to be fired. Because the prof was white, this attracted a certain crowd to support him unsolicited. MeGutlessGypsy fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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Jun 5, 2017 21:26
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WeAreTheRomans posted:The only recent exception that springs to mind is Park Geun-Hye, she got the job mostly via nepotism (her father was president before her), "president"
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voltroon posted:Sorry if this has been addressed in the last 10 pages or so already, but why DOES the US love Saudi Arabia so much? I know they gave big dinner boy the firmest of rear end-pattings during his Big Boy Adventuretime Trip, but why is the rest of the administration on board with this? 1) They have oil 2) They were anti-communist 3) They are the largest regional power in the middle east and American foreign policy has generally been focused on maintaining stability in the region at all costs. 4) They are anti-Iran Stability = No open conflict between states which = safe trade through sea/air and stability of energy prices.
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haveblue posted:And he set up WeSearchr because GoFundMe banned the sort of legal defense fundraisers alt-righters and cops kept starting. How the hell does that even work, can anyone really just start a crowdfunding platform(and due to like zero oversight skim like 99.999999 stuff?)
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Boon posted:Quicker than that, possibly. The cycle on average is less than 5 years of expansion and right now we're in a record expansionary period - likely propelled by global factors This expansion has also been unusually slow by several metrics and that along with monetary policy in near permanent crisis mode may be dragging things out quite a bit. I don't think we're actually in records territory yet, though? The growth period during the 90s lasted around 10 years too.
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ReidRansom posted:Despite having been a thing for literally decade(s) now, I can't believe they're still not more widespread. Companies refuse to spend money on extremely important IT security upgrades or the story of my career in E-Discovery. "Why do you need a server with secure storage?" "Because my laptop is filled to the brim with customer's personal data, detailed financial breakdowns about current or a future lawsuits and incriminating evidence that would cost companies billions of dollars if it gets lost or stolen" "Yeah, but storage is expensive and you haven't lost your laptop yet..." 
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:It never fails to surprise me that, for all the high-tech approaches you could theoretically take, it is still sufficient to phish folks for credentials. It really feels like a sufficiently large organization is powerless again failing against that sort of thing because you are bound to have at least one idiot who takes the bait and then it's all over. At the company I work for, almost everyone has access to a lot of sensitive information on tens of millions of customers so not falling for phishing is a big deal, stressed all the time, we have to take biannual training and refreshers, etc because we're deathly afraid of being on the front page for being hacked. They started phish-testing us 2 years ago by hiring outsiders to try to trick us into downloading something, going to their web site, etc and drat near half of the company failed on the first easy test, with intentionally bad english because they wanted to start with a good result before giving us harder tests. These days, I think about 10-15% of the dumbasses at work still get tricked and fail the damned tests.
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RandomBlue posted:I liked the song but SA has conditioned me to be an abused puppy that keeps wanting to get the delicious kibble but every time I think the kibble is real someone runs out of nowhere and punts me across the room. I'm not sure believing posts is even possible anymore. Kinda like what must've happened to Covok and mcmagic and hope for the future. I don't know what a kibble is, but thank you anyway.
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Trabisnikof posted:You can still phish for 2 factor tokens, you just have to be ready to immediately use the credential. That may be true for password cyclers, but not for a good cryptographic challenge-response hardware key like a yubico.
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Oh precious katana posted:I don't know what a kibble is, but thank you anyway. Slang for pet food in the US.
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Watching white supremacists eat poo poo never gets old. 
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Rigel posted:At the company I work for, almost everyone has access to a lot of sensitive information on tens of millions of customers so not falling for phishing is a big deal, stressed all the time, we have to take biannual training and refreshers, etc because we're deathly afraid of being on the front page for being hacked. I work for a government agency and they do Phish-testing about once a month, with ridiculous things like "Due to theft from the break room Fridge only authorized users can use the refrigerator. Please click this link and input your credentials and password to secure your spot." and even though it happens once a month and they flag all the tests as "SUSPICIOUS EMAIL" we still have 15% or so people fail every month. It's not even just clicking a link to fail; you have to click it, input your login and password, and then send it. It is loving baffling.
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Paradoxish posted:This expansion has also been unusually slow by several metrics and that along with monetary policy in near permanent crisis mode may be dragging things out quite a bit. I don't think we're actually in records territory yet, though? The growth period during the 90s lasted around 10 years too. Oops, you're correct. We're at 96 months now, behind only 120 (90s) and 105 (60s).
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https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/871826367314358272 https://twitter.com/owillis/status/871826152410800139 https://twitter.com/BruceBartlett/status/871826768575045634 https://twitter.com/politico/status/871823722235219968 https://twitter.com/EricBoehlert/status/871827839104020481 https://twitter.com/yashar/status/871827052139360260 https://twitter.com/CraigCaplan/status/871827024343691264 https://twitter.com/nielslesniewski/status/871828879731830784 Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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What's Luntz' deal anyway? He's the shithead behind most of the worst focus grouped garbage the GOP pushes, but he occasionally lights into someone in a ideologically correct way.
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