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ATP_Power
Jun 12, 2010

This is what fascinates me most in existence: the peculiar necessity of imagining what is, in fact, real.


An older story of boats hitting things they shouldn't: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Elwha

quote:

On October 2, 1983, the Elwha ran aground in Grindstone Harbor, near Orcas Island, on a submerged reef while carrying 100 passengers.[2] The collision was initially blamed on the failure of a steering component, but was later found to have been caused by Captain Billy Fittro going off-course to give a visitor a view of her waterfront home.

Immortalized in song by the local Island City Jazz Band: https://sanjuanupdate.com/updatepix07/elwarocks.mp3

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Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


I remember there was a shipwreck thread somewhere, but there are a crazy number of big shipwrecks you never even hear about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shipwrecks_in_2017

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Powershift posted:

I remember there was a shipwreck thread somewhere, but there are a crazy number of big shipwrecks you never even hear about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shipwrecks_in_2017

I dunno, when you consider how many boats are out there and just how vast the oceans are, a dozen some-odd global wrecks per month sounds vanishingly small.

Edit: It also seems like groundings with minimal injury or loss of life make up the majority of incidents.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

cargolaw.com is a law firm specializing in maritime freight claims and runs a fantastic blog of major incidents as a marketing tool, I'll find the link in a bit. there's an epic three part series on one that ran aground and had to have hundreds of conexes offloaded by helicopter, wanna say APL Panama

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

ATP_Power posted:

An older story of boats hitting things they shouldn't: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Elwha


Immortalized in song by the local Island City Jazz Band: https://sanjuanupdate.com/updatepix07/elwarocks.mp3

Speaking of older stories: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Victoria_(1887)#The_collision

Fleet commander routinely doesn't explain orders to his subordinates, to accustom them to the unexpected, which works fine until he orders two lines of ships to turn directly into each other and no one questions the order because everyone assumes he's got it under control. Turns out he doesn't, two large warships collide.

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
This been posted? Some guy bought a missile silo, and he's opening the blast doors, held back by 250 tons of water, with a crow bar and faith.

http://i.imgur.com/32Gfl1a.gifv

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Lime Tonics posted:

This been posted? Some guy bought a missile silo, and he's opening the blast doors, held back by 250 tons of water, with a crow bar and faith.

http://i.imgur.com/32Gfl1a.gifv

A silo for submarine missiles? Clever!

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
That little head shake before he cracks it is the "aw gently caress it" head shake.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

It's going to take loving ages to fill it up again though.

Pingiivi
Mar 26, 2010

Straight into the iris!

Lime Tonics posted:

This been posted? Some guy bought a missile silo, and he's opening the blast doors, held back by 250 tons of water, with a crow bar and faith.

That dude has almost died a few times doing all kinds of poo poo in the silo.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are
Can someone set up a house-swapping reality show between that guy and the family that bought a crack house in Toronto?

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof
When the USS Wisconsin ran aground in the Chesapeake, it turned out to be a real shitshow.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950_USS_Missouri_grounding_incident

shame on an IGA posted:

cargolaw.com is a law firm specializing in maritime freight claims and runs a fantastic blog of major incidents as a marketing tool, I'll find the link in a bit. there's an epic three part series on one that ran aground and had to have hundreds of conexes offloaded by helicopter, wanna say APL Panama

http://www.cargolaw.com/ is kind of cheesy website, but they have some wild stories there.

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot
Most horrifying maritime accident was the steam leak in the USS Iwo Jima - basically they used the wrong bolts on a steam line carrying superheated steam at like 600PSIG and 600°F , the connection burst, that quickly flooded the entire engine room. I think 12 sailors were killed.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Pingiivi posted:

That dude has almost died a few times doing all kinds of poo poo in the silo.

Yeah I think that's the same dude who went down into the bottom of the silo where there was all the rotting swamp gas, with no enclosed-space training and carrying no breathing equipment, and miraculously realized that his voice had suddenly changed and managed to get back out before he died.

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005

Sagebrush posted:

Yeah I think that's the same dude who went down into the bottom of the silo where there was all the rotting swamp gas, with no enclosed-space training and carrying no breathing equipment, and miraculously realized that his voice had suddenly changed and managed to get back out before he died.

It is. The whole channel is magical.

I like the improvised ventilation system myself.

Oh, also the reveal that the part with the gas issue housed the still full septic tank from when the base was active. Decades old Jenkem nearly killed a man.

Dark Off
Aug 14, 2015




speaking of exploring abandoned places
http://imgur.com/gallery/WRFBK
how close was this guy to death?

I would guess the sour stuff he smelled was methane and maybe ozone from high voltage stuff.
also he keeps saying that he will turn back and yet keeps going in deeper and deeper.

Biohazard sign and the guy keeps going deeper






danger high voltage

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
According to the comments there's hazardous mold everywhere in the pics so hopefully he had a mask or something, otherwise hopefully his internet fame brings him comfort when he's dying of black lung!

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

CJacobs posted:

According to the comments there's hazardous mold everywhere in the pics so hopefully he had a mask or something, otherwise hopefully his internet fame brings him comfort when he's dying of black lung!

In any underground place like that (that isn't a cave) I'd be concerned about running into an area with bad air.

Also: STAY OUT - STAY ALIVE
https://youtu.be/28ZehJOBeBI

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Three-Phase posted:

Most horrifying maritime accident was the steam leak in the USS Iwo Jima - basically they used the wrong bolts on a steam line carrying superheated steam at like 600PSIG and 600°F , the connection burst, that quickly flooded the entire engine room. I think 12 sailors were killed.

I work in bolting engineering and you'd be surprised how often we have to solve problems along the lines of "woops we were meant to use *exotic stainless steel grade* for this joint but we assumed we could just switch that out for *insert wood here*, can you fix this for us".

Verdugo
Jan 5, 2009


Lipstick Apathy
Two guys using a crowbar and a backhoe to safely open a door with pressurized water behind it.

http://i.imgur.com/32Gfl1a.gifv

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Sagebrush posted:

Yeah I think that's the same dude who went down into the bottom of the silo where there was all the rotting swamp gas, with no enclosed-space training and carrying no breathing equipment, and miraculously realized that his voice had suddenly changed and managed to get back out before he died.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXpYFtI0nqU&t=1029s

Phuzun
Jul 4, 2007

Verdugo posted:

Two guys using a crowbar and a backhoe to safely open a door with pressurized water behind it.

http://i.imgur.com/32Gfl1a.gifv

The post just up the page had a much better description.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012


CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Get you a girl that can make hexagonal rotis #relationshipgoals :wink:

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Tag yourself I'm Pouts.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

Haha he paid loving $90k for it.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


A newer photo of the U.S.S. Fitzgerald being towed into Yokosuka:



Looks uh... kind of bent to me.

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot
Can they just like straighten out the frame?

Just use some hydraulic rams or weld onto the superstructure and have two other ships pull to straighten it out?

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

FuturePastNow posted:

Looks uh... kind of bent to me.

The actual structure of the ship isn't bent. This is what it looks like from the other side, before being damaged



edit: I mean, it might be bent, they'll do all sorts of tests on it for that, but the difference in the angle of the ship's rail between the front and the back was already there.

edit edit:

priznat posted:

The 7 missing sailors were found in flooded compartments, all dead. RIP

:(

Memento fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Jun 18, 2017

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

FuturePastNow posted:

A newer photo of the U.S.S. Fitzgerald being towed into Yokosuka:



Looks uh... kind of bent to me.

Maritime regulations universally state that when two ships are on a collision course, both must turn to starboard (right) for clearance. This impact is on the right side of the ship, suggesting that the Fitzgerald turned to port. Whoops.

It'd be interesting to see a breakdown of maritime collisions by location on the ship, to see if there's a tendency to impact on the starboard side.

e: it surprises me that the ship partly flooded, since the damage appears to be all above the waterline. Is there more than what's visible in that photo?

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
http://i.imgur.com/8swYgvC.gifv

Detective Thompson
Nov 9, 2007

Sammy Davis Jr. Jr. is also in repose.

Sagebrush posted:

e: it surprises me that the ship partly flooded, since the damage appears to be all above the waterline. Is there more than what's visible in that photo?

A big ship like the one that hit the destroyer is going to have a bulbous bow that protrudes out farther from the vessel than what you'd see when the ship is loaded with cargo and riding lower in the water. That could've hit below the waterline and punched a hole in the Fitzgerald.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang

Sagebrush posted:

e: it surprises me that the ship partly flooded, since the damage appears to be all above the waterline. Is there more than what's visible in that photo?

You see the most obvious area of damage? That was the highest level of the bow of the container vessel. The bow then sweeps inward which is why the railing area is less damaged. The keel of the container vessel is, obviously, the lowest part of the ship, and it extends forward around the same distance as the top of the bow. There's a hole under the waterline, and it is probably very large.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Detective Thompson posted:

A big ship like the cargo ship that hit the destroyer is going to have a bulbous bow that protrudes out farther from the ship than what you'd see when the ship is loaded with cargo and riding lower in the water. That could've hit below the waterline and punched a hole in the Fitzgerald.

pretty sure its confirmed that there's damage below the waterline between the dead sailors and the list

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


I linked this pic over in the airpower thread, too. This is the ship that struck the Fitzgerald. The bow protrudes under the water-line to increase efficiency and would have caused substantial damage.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


Well son, when a daddy ship and a mommy ship love each other very much...

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Cop Porn Popper posted:

Well son, when a daddy ship and a mommy ship love each other very much...

Considering the amount of seamen that died I'd say it was more like a masturbation session.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
I am so sorry to the families of the deceased for that post

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Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


Its ok, I'm headed there right behind you. :v:

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